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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 6

This is my first bait and with the help of a very good mentor I am able to give you the details.

I was contacted by a Johnny Williams back in January through datingforparents. He started a chat with me on that site. I could chat with him but not view his profile. I have to admit he sounded really nice and soon went to talk on msn. He told me he was a widower. His first wife died 15 years ago in childbirth. (The baby died too) . He had a 10 year old son Thomas from another relationship. They lived in Essex. (His area on the dating site said Gloucester). He was staying with his brother. He no longer has a brother. He also had his own business dealing with Fabrics. He said he named his business after his first wife. Liz Claiborne, Inc At first I started to fall for his charm. He sent me 4 emails mostly repeated with declarations of love and poems! In the 3rd one I had pictures of him and his son!! (The son were 2 different boys) I later found out where these pics had come from by my mentor. http:/
/www.focusagencyhawaii.com/view_kids.htm The 4th email mentioned a trip to Africa. The alarm bells started to ring! I kept contact but not often until I found out what I could do.

Pictures of Johnny

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I put a message on a site which I knew about and only one person came back to me. He left a message with some sites to go and check out and then pm me and gave me this site. (I am very grateful for that. Thank you).

The love of my life had a sick mother and he needed to go and see her. A few weeks ago he supposed to have flew out to Africa. His mother has chronic cancer and needs an operation. Without this operation she will die!!! (This was about 2 weeks ago. Yes still hanging on) He needed �15,000 for her to have the op!! I played along and told him how much I loved him and couldn�t wait for us to be together and he in return would say the same but I won't bore you with all of that rubbish. Don't want to turn your stomachs.

I told him I would do what I could to help and then he mentioned he was short of money and could I help him? He asked for �3,000 to begin with told me he had �12,000 that was owed him through his fabric business. Then all of a sudden no money available and could I ask the bank!!

I sent an email requesting a letter from his mother�s Doctor explaining her illness and what she needs to have done. I said once I had received this letter. The bank would consider lending me the money.

Here is the letter I received!!

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He still thinks the Bank is going to give me the money. I haven't given him the bad news yet. The letter has no ref No, not signed and plus unreadable.

He insulted me over my age. I told I wanted more children and did he think I was too old. He gave me this line of always being young to him. So I thought he doesn't know how old I am. He kept avoiding the question and eventually insulting me by saying I was nearly 10 years older than what I am 50!! How dare he insult me like that. When I was getting him all this money. On Valentines Day of all days!

I wanted a proper apology. A card. Told me the shops were shut. I said make me a card. He din't know how too. Could I teach him. What a man of his standards and education???

I did ask for a picture of him holding a red rose and a note I could read clearly saying sorry. I got this instead

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19/02/07

Johnny has now gone to get me another letter. This time typed, reference number and signed!!! I told him the Bank would not except his first attempt. He asked me to send him �100 and he would sell his wrist watch to help with the first stage of the operation!! Told him I'm waiting on the Bank. So the sooner he gets the letter the better.

27/2/07

I haven't received anymore information from the doctor as yet. What I wanted to include is a couple of emails from his son (which we know doesn't exist). This email is from a 10 yer old boy!

Hello mom its Thomas Just wanna say hi..It has been a nice time talking with you.....Well I ghot a very sweet peom to discribe how much I love you and want to be with you......Mom I really lack a motherly training,but I got you now and I will say to you again nothing on earth will sepreate you from me..I have got this mail to express the feelings of a mother to you.

Today, I looked in the mirror;
Curious as to what I would see.
I expected to see my reflection
Staring back at me.

But as I looked, I saw something more
In the face that was there.
I saw the reflection of my mother;
A woman filled with care.

Each year is another year closer
To looking like my Mother.
I see her in my reflection,
In one way or another.

May I not only look like her
But, reflect her heart as well.
For, it's full of love and kindness;
God's goodness in a nutshell.

Another year closer to looking like mom,
That only makes me glad.
For, I love my beautiful Mother.
She's the best reflection I've had.

I have to drop here mom,All greetings to my brother tell them I can't wait to see them.

Love You mom,
Thomas.

And here is another! I thought how grown up Thomas sounds.

Hello mum,
Thanks for the mail and the good assurance of faith,how are you and how are my brothers hope they all are fine and good,Mum I really sorry I very ignorance that you were ill and not okay....dad just told me you were ill as,May the good lord give you strength and replace all the ones you have lost.

Mum Im very happy that today I have a better oppurtunity of someone I can call a mother,well all glory to my GOD and what a great success I have gotten since yesterday,I was just thinking of you and the day of joy it would be when I will have to see you and have a good care from you,Oh mother thanks for the sweet promise this has strengthened my faith and I have got a believe that everything will be alright....Mum I got a very funny gust for you,guess what dad was very sad througthout yesterday after you he sign off while talking with you and tears was dropping off his face just that he can't talk to you...mum you see I want you to trust me and what ever I tell you here,Dad really loves you and he really wants us to be togerther,Im very sorry cos Im a kid and I have no affiar in what really happening between you and dad,but mum I would want you to see me as your child and as a very grown up person who has a better reasoning,I would appreciate you also if you can give my dad a better position in your hearth to have himas a good husband who loves you and my brothers over there,oh what ive I said????/ I recognise the fact that you live him and have the feelings for him in your heart and The GOD of thomas Williams will let us be,mum I promise I would be a good boy here and take care of dad. Thanks for the birthday greetings,how I wish Im there with you to ever know my brothers birthday and to have a celebration of life togerther.....THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN MOM,MAY YOU LIVE LONG TO SEE US THROUGH TO HAVE A BETTER CARE. MOM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE TO ME AS A BIRTHDAY PRESENT?

Well mum I have to get reading my books now,Im sorry I don't have much time to write much,but someday and some how things will be okay for us..My greeting to my brothers,please tell them I love them and can't wait to see them and Mom please do a favour for me Take a very good care of them.

All my love mum,

With a loving hearth from Thomas.

Mom you are my hearo
Mummy you know how I love you.
I need you forever to stay by me
I will always please you to have me
Never will I stop striving to be your number 1
You teach me how to play the games
I have no fear when you are near
You guide me through the darkest night
I love you mom
Yes, I do love you
You are my super star
You are always in my imagination
You are always in my thought
You are always in my everything
so you know why I say you are my hero

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:05 pm

Excellent stuff. Nice to see you keeping him busy Very Happy

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:15 pm

The Femi-Pedro Cancer Department sounds legit to me... "We care, but God heals" oh, please!
ask your lad to spell "oncology"
oncology
(on-KOL-uh-jee)
An area of medicine that deals with the study and treatment of cancer.
looks like you've got a live one there, certainly not too bright.

Strong Work

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:01 pm

Great work!

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:01 pm

Great work turning the tables on him! I think these love scammers are pretty tricky - I've never baited one and I take my hat off to you Very Happy

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:05 pm

Great Stuff Gypsy! Keep up the good work. Remember the best lad is a begging one. Make him cry.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:42 pm

Good start Gypsy, though I have a premonition that the only love this lad is going to receive from you, will be the tough variety! Laughing

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:50 pm

The stupid lad's card wrote:

I didn't mean to hurt you. I am indeed very sorry!

I think he will indeed be very sorry once you've finished with him Wink

Nice work!

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

Good job! That's very good work. Laughing

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:55 pm

Great work clapping

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:01 pm

Awesome! That lad must have the most complicated story I've ever heard. I think the "I'm sorry" card is pretty classic. Of course, he'll need to write it out by hand for it to be anywhere near acceptable Wink

Keep up the good baiting!

Baiting Guru Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 5727

Congrats and welcome! Keep it up!

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:19 pm

Sounds like you've got a live one there! Well done. And welcome to Eater Very Happy

Not quite a Newb Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 41

I love that card! Very Happy

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:40 pm

Tell him he needs handwriting lessons.

Well done!

Baiting Guru Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 3551

Wow, what a charmer you hooked! Great job!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 6

Thank you everyone for your kind words and the encouragement you are giving me to continue with this lad. I will say I couldn't have done it without Wayne's help!

Thank you again and I am looking forward to baiting a few more in the future!

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:38 pm

Well done Gypsy ...... although the doctors letter looks real enough for me. I didn't think you were supposed to be able read their writing Wink

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:39 pm

Your lad is kinda cute. I wonder what he would look like without the facial hair?

Great job you are doing. One last thing, don't correct his spelling.