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Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Whoa, that was quick. Sent the mail yesterday to our good friend Liliya!

Got what looks like a very scripted response back just now. With a photo, that surprised me. However, the photo doesn't appear to be the same Liliya you have all been talking to. You know the one, her that looks like a model on Karups site! Wink

I'm planning on playing a few cards on this one. She wants to know about me. So I suspect I am religious, I have a well paid job. How does a City banker, investment manager sound. I know someone who is, so can get some proper sounding lingo from him. And for the sympathy/desperation card I married young, but tragically lost my wife in a car accident, (which I blame myself for).

Also I played a good one on her. at the start. I told her we couldn�t meet immediately, as I was going on a business trip to America for a fortnight. Cool

BTW, can I post pics and messages whilst the baiting is going on, or should I wait till the end?

I am logging it as it goes along, just to make it easy remembering what I did/said.

** SUSPENDED ** Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 135

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BTW, can I post pics and messages whilst the baiting is going on, or should I wait till the end?

Whatever floats your boat...just make sure to remove stuff like email addresses, names, #'s, etc.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Liliya wrote:

Hello my dear friend ***********!!!
How are you doing? I hope that all perfectly. I am very happy to
receive
your letter and to see that you really to be interested in my first
letter.
Really it is very interesting to me to learn you more and to study you.
I as would like to tell to you about that that I really lonely woman
and I
very much would like to have acquaintance to the man for serious
relations.
And I at once want to tell, that my letters very serious, and please to
read it
closely and to answer my letter.
My English not on it is good so much, but I shall try to understand you
and
to answer your questions as.
For this purpose I to address in agency of acquaintances and to give
them my letter. To me to tell that I can really find the man through
their
agency and they to allow me a little e-mail. I to choose yours and you
are very pleasant for me that to answer my letter. I hope that we can
study more about each other. I to understand that to you is interesting
where I to take yours e-mail, but now I can not tell you it precisely
because I to not have contact to travel agency, and it to be in
Yoshkar-Ola, and I to be in Moscow now, and I can receive the
visa to your country.
I hope, that you to not have the wife or children, and you really
wanted a meeting
of me in your country as the visitor, and probably in the future we
could
have serious relations.
But if you to have the wife, or the girlfriend that please to
inform about it, and we to finish our correspondence. I to not
know you as the person, but I to want to learn about it.
I very much want to have acquaintance with good the man.
I as to have some questions for you.
How there is your life? In what country you live? What city you live?
What you to think about our meeting? You wanted that I could arrive to
you during a week?
I hope that this day to pass well for you and you to have good mood.
I wish you good day and success.
I wait for your letter.
Your friend Liliya.

Looks like a script. Says nothing about the original mail I sent. Plus the irratic carriage returns suggest its been copied badly from a file and no-one bothered fixing it. Came with this photo (which I didn't prompt for)

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Wow! She's confident. Already got another reply today! And with another photo. I'll post later.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:08 pm

Expect on average 1 pic to an email off "her".

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

You'd think they'd bother teasing you. Get a bit of interest up. I have a girlfriend from Eastern Europe. They're quite shy over there to tell the truth! Would be so much more believable had she acted a bit prudish.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:07 am

Post up the email headers, that might tell us a bit more.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Code:

X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 217.146.182.63; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:57:38 +0000
X-YahooFilteredBulk: 194.67.23.121
X-Originating-IP: [194.67.23.121]
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Authentication-Results: mta141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com from=bk.ru; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 194.67.23.121 (EHLO mx1.mail.ru) (194.67.23.121) by mta141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:57:38 +0000
Received: from [217.107.236.60] (port=47192 helo=261ccaa404c74a3) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1HHONl-0006gc-00 for [email protected]; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:57:29 +0300
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:56:37 +0300
From: "Liliya" <[email protected]> View Contact Details View Contact Details
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091
Reply-to: Liliya <[email protected]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: "Phil Edwards" <[email protected]>
Subject: Hello!!! Happy Valentinas day!!!
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------D1551BF1606B811"
Content-Length: 19512

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:31 am

X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091

Received: from [217.107.236.60]

Suggests to me all you're getting right now is automated replies sent out on daily basis, usually at around the same time of day every day too. Write to "her" from another account and you'll get the same letters and pictures in the same order. IP address shows this up

inetnum: 217.107.236.0 - 217.107.237.255
netname: RT-CLNT-MARTELCOM
descr: Mari El Net
descr: Volgatelecom Mari El branch
country: RU
admin-c: NN-RIPE
tech-c: NN-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
notify: ***@mari-el.ru
notify: ***@mari-el.ru
notify: ***@rtcomm.ru
mnt-by: AS8342-MNT
changed: ****@rt.ru 20041006
source: RIPE

Mari El is the hub of Russian romance scammer activity. Pointless writing in too many details to your story yet. They won't be read.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Do I just keep sending random replies till I see he has stopped using The Bat! ? Patience isn't a strong point of mine. These Vlads will wind me up I am sure!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:59 pm

I personally write them long letters talking about the weather, how nice their last letter was and other generic cra. Actually I write one letter, then send it to all my vlads with a sentence personalising it. When the next round of baits start I reuse the letters with them. You can do that til you see the change in the writing style that shows they're reading the letters and then start with the personal letters. It's the same as the vlads do but without The Bat! It takes a little time to start with, but soon you can be writing to a dozen vlads and only using a few minurs of your time each day cut n pasting your replies to them all.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

Cheers for the ongoing help guys!

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 669

I typically just write something short each time, especially when it's obvious that they're not reading any of my emails. For example, I'd write something like this:

Quote:

Hello dearest <insert name here>! I hope you're doing well today. How is the weather there? I hope things are going okay with <insert their latest sob story here>. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you, okay?

Another tactic I use is to throw in a sentence just to test if they are reading it. Using my example above, I might do this:

Quote:

Hello dearest <insert name here>! I hope you're doing well today. How is the weather there? Do you enjoy licking balls? I hope things are going okay with <insert their latest sob story here>. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you, okay?

Usually that will go unnoticed, but I have had a couple that will respond. One of them actually replied with a long email that questioned if I was talking to her only for sex. In hindsight I am wondering if it was just part of her script.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:40 pm

This photo is not the same Liliya that I was baiting, nor is it the same email address. I guess they 'buy' these letters and a set of email addresses and off they go.

I have to say this one looks a bit more wholesome than mine! I wouldn't have gone to close to her without steam cleaning her first.

Ask her if she knows Ivan Tyutusakmavili at the Georgian Embassy (most Georgian names end with 'vili').

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2

****! This IP address,217.107.236.60, matches exactly with another scammer's ID from here: http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f1508.shtml
Read the second email posted with full headers, after you skip the photos.
This appears to be a group of people at work. I wonder if the ladies whose photos are being used even know what's going on. I've heard scammers
often take random photos of beautiful women from magazines, websites,
and other sources, and these women often don't know what's going on.
Of course, if the scammer is a beautiful woman, she doesn't need to resort to these tactics. Mr. Nikolai Nikolaev (sp?) is from Yoshkar-El in the
MariEl republic in Russia. Apparently, he is the Russian dating/marriage
scam kingpin, judging from the number of emails I get from his sockpuppets, or his employees.