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manichewan
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 14
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:45 pm |
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hi all,
just a general question about love/dating scams...
is there a typical length of time before the scammer starts asking for money? i've been emailing a lad for about a month now, and so far no requests for money. other than he's getting happy about my planned side trip to visit him, it's pretty boring. the pictures i've sent him are keeping him fairly pleased as well i'm guessing
however i don't want to start making outrageous requests, but i want things to move along before an "accident" happens. i'm trying to paly this fairly straight.
any suggestions or comments are welcome. |
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wayne
Account closed at users request
Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Posts: 3630
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:54 pm |
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Quick answer, how long is a ball of string? Basically anything up to a year or so, though some can be as quick as the day you start to chat to them. |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:44 pm |
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Yup. Any time from 2 minutes to 2 years.
Are you sure this is a scammer?
Where did you find him? |
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manichewan
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 14
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:15 pm |
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he actually found me. he says he found my contact information when searching the web. i was able to find my alias but not the actual address.
i'm wondering if he's connected somehow to another bait i was working on?
2 years or there abouts? yeesh... then i will have to stretch things out a bit longer.
thanks! |
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manichewan
Hello I'm New here!
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:33 pm |
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i just went and checked the headers of this scam and from the previous scam, and this is the IP addresses i got from them:
love/date scam: 62.128.164.251
typical scam: 62.128.163.110
they both resolve to kenya... i'm thinking they're coming from the same place, if not from the same person.
thoughts? i'm playing the same person, but the job is different. i never sent a pic to the previous scam, so i may be safe there. |
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wayne
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:52 pm |
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Give us some more info on the scammer. The IP address shows up as a satellite provider, so where the person claims to be isn't necessarily where they really are. For example, I have one right now that claims to be in Australia, but the satellite provider that the IP address shows doesn't cover Australia at all. Not even close. Take a look here at where the provider in your headers covers.
http://www.omnistar.com/coveragemaps.html#afsat |
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manichewan
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 14
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:04 pm |
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you are correct, i realize the IP addresses i listed are only for the service providers and not the scammers.
overall, i'm only worried that they're either the same person, or know of each to the point that i may be found out sooner than i would prefer, because the address was never used on any websites for registration or guestbooks.
thanks for the information though, i really appreciate it! i will adjust my responses to the scammer. |
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wayne
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:42 pm |
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62.128.160.0 - 62.128.175.255 belong to the same ISP, so both IP addreses you show were sent by people using the same ISP. |
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Sticky
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 82
Location: Land of cheese & chocolate
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:56 pm |
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There's another recent thread about that question.
Stepan Fetchit wrote: |
Any time from 2 minutes to 2 years. |
2 years? Seriously? |
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manichewan
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:58 pm |
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that's all the information i need... i was starting to feel that the person was not a scammer. just a touch. no worries now.
thanks wayne! |
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Vanndickey
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Iapetus
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:59 pm |
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jlh wrote: |
2 years? Seriously? |
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92475
^Stepan had made a year out of Oksana |
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wayne
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:00 pm |
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Baiters tend to rush the whole thing to come to a conclusion quicker, but 2 years doesn't seem an overly exaggerated amount of time for some romance scammers to work over. |
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alicante22
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Rumbling in the Jungle
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:52 am |
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i am currently in the middle of my first romance scammer...
i got her off script within 3 emails as she constantly ignored my 1 or 2 line replies and questions and turned them into a proposal that she come and stay with me!
claims that she is independently coming to the UK on the 16th Nov, and that everything is booked and paid for already. clearly there will be some catch, but i am not sure how and when it will happen.
"My name is Maria. I am 26 years old. I live in Russia,
city Cheboksary."
which is about 300km from Moscow. But her IP address has her in a city on the pacific coast of russia near to Japan!!!
Anyone any ideas what to expect with this one? or anyone also baiting her? PM me if you think so, i dont want to put her email on her just incase she ever googles her address and this pops up.
Oh, i have also got her to agree to send me any photo that i wish to prove to me that she is the real girl in the pic. is it normal that the person writing to you is also the person in the photos? I have asked her to hold up a paper with my made up characters name on it, and i have a feeling that she is going to do it... |
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ThatGrrl
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006
Posts: 73
Location: On the Golf Course
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:34 am |
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Hi Alicante... yes, sometimes they do pose for the pics themselves, othertimes they will get family members/friends to do it - that is, when they're not stealing them off modelling websites...
Don't worry about her not asking for money yet, disaster will strike soon and she'll need your help...you just need a few tricks up your sleeve getting her to hold up a sign is a good place to start! |
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