"Leading him a Riverdance" - Romance scammer vs Je

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Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

<center>"Leading him a Riverdance - This time its PERSONAL!"
"Williams Darren vs Jean Butler

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Before we begin, let me give you some of the background to this particular bait�
Although scambaiting can be a fun pastime that sharpens our photoshop skills and hopefully wastes the time of real criminals, lets not forget that although WE see straight through their pathetic lies, there are a good many people who are misled and scammed by these people. In the past I have baited because a scammer dared to invade my email box, but this time it really is personal. I discovered that my sister in law was being groomed by a scammer going by the name of �Williams Darren� � groomed via a romance scam over yahoo messenger that went on for months, and had I not intervened, would have resulted in my sister in laws bank account being drained by �20,000 thanks to a stolen cheque from a company which had gone into liquidisation. Needless to say, this caused a lot of upset to our family and I spent a great deal of time on this shady character determining if he was a scammer or not. Once I discovered the truth, I decided that this guy HAD TO PAY! I decided to journey into the world of the scambaiters one last time, because � THIS TIME ITS PERSONAL!

I have provided the following yahoo chat logs and emails which I believe are in the rough order as they happened�they are a little boring initially but they spice up. I will highlight amusing passages in bold and add commentory in italics.

I am taking on the identity of Jean Butler, the flame haired Irish dancer from �Riverdance�, simply because photos of her are fairly easy to find on the internet, yet she doesn�t look too much like a film star or model so the lad shouldn�t get too confused�

So one fine day, I contacted him on Yahoo messenger, he took the bait, let the sport begin�

ME: hi there
SCAMMER: Who are u ?
ME: i am Jean, 25 female from Ireland
ME: who are you?
SCAMMER: Female Or Male ?
ME: female
SCAMMER: Wht is your real name ?
ME: Jean
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Do u have a Webcam ?
ME: i do but the software doesnt work properly on this computer
ME: who are you, where are you from?
ME: i am interested in meeting friends from all over the world
SCAMMER: am from Ca
ME: canada?
ME: that sounds so nice
SCAMMER: What do u do for living ?
ME: i am a part time dancer
SCAMMER: Carlifornia
ME: oh i see
ME: do you have photo?
SCAMMER: part time dancer?
ME: yes
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: can i c?
SCAMMER: I will like to see you on Cam
ME: im sorry, it doesnt work, i told you before
ME: can i see a photo of you please?
ME: and ill send you one of me
SCAMMER: Go and get another one
SCAMMER: Or repair it
ME: yeah maybe
SCAMMER: part time dancer? do them pay you money ?
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: i normally just dance because i enjoy it
ME: i dont have much money really
SCAMMER: When you dance them pay you money?
ME: sometimes
SCAMMER: ok
SCAMMER: Are u there ?
SCAMMER: <ding>
ME: hi sorry i got disconnected
ME: hi
ME: sorry about before, i keep getting probs wit this computer
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Are u there
ME: yes
ME: im trying to send you a photo of me
ME: or i can email you
SCAMMER: Ok.....I will like to see you
ME: im sending the file, are you not getting a window to accept the file?
SCAMMER: am not getting it
ME: can you send me a photo of you?
ME: i see that you are looking for love? or have you already found it now
SCAMMER: No....am not found one
ME: im sorry to haer that
ME: me neither
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: no, never
ME: i would love to find someone
SCAMMER: Ok.....I wish it me
SCAMMER: Hun ?
ME: maybe it could be, who knows, but i dont know much about you yet
ME: perhaps i could see a photo of you, or do yo have a webcam?
SCAMMER: Yea.....Babe
SCAMMER: My cam is broke

("how convenient")

ME: ok, coudl you send me a photo of you?
ME: and i will do the same
SCAMMER: Ok...I send you
ME: thankyou
ME: i look forward to seeing it
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: my email is ****@yahoo.com if it cant be sent on here
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: i am a redhaired girl from ireland
ME: 25
ME: slim
ME: i keep in good shape beacuse i dance
SCAMMER: Ok.....Babe
ME: yes?
SCAMMER: You dont work ?
ME: hmm can you email it me? i dont know why its not working, it normally works for me
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: what sort of women do you like?
ME: babe?
SCAMMER: Brrb
ME: ok
ME: i emailed you 2 pics
ME: please email me back with yours
ME: what sort of woman do you prefer?
ME: i have to go now, im sorry
ME: email me soon please xx

Not much effort from him so far... dissapointing... oh well, lets see if things heat up in the next exchange... I send him a few photos of Jean Butler via email to see if that interests him a bit more...

ME: Hi Williams
SCAMMER: How are u ?
ME: I'm very well thankyou. did you get your photos? I emailed some to you
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: what do you think
SCAMMER: I love you it
ME: thankyou
ME: i would love to see photos of you too, can you email me some
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: How are u?
ME: im fine thanks
ME: please email the photos of you to ***@yahoo.com please
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: How is your day
ME: good thankyou, how was yours
ME: what do you do for a job?
SCAMMER: Am contractor
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: oh right, for what kind of work
SCAMMER: Builder and constructing
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: i do work in schools and also i am a dancer
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: have you sent the email? i would lovvve to see u
SCAMMER: ok\
ME: thankyou
ME: have you ever been to Ireland
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: wow, when did you last go
SCAMMER: I haven't
ME: oh i asked if you had ever been and you said you had
SCAMMER: No
ME: would you like to visit Ireland one day?
SCAMMER: yea ....I will love
SCAMMER: But not now
ME: yeah its expensive to come over here
SCAMMER: yea
ME: are you busy at the moment?
SCAMMER: No
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: no so i was wondering if you wanted to chat
ME: because i havent really been able to get to know you much
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: And u
SCAMMER: Can you tell me about yourself ?
ME: yes, what do you want to know?
SCAMMER: How you are living
ME: i am on my own
ME: i enjoy dancing and keeping myself fit
ME: you have already seen my photos, i hope you like them
SCAMMER: yea

He sends me a selection of photos via email, which are stolen from http://www.focusagencyhawaii.com/model-talent/Mike/Mike.htm

ME: wow, you are a VERY good looking man
ME: you are so good looking, you look like you are a model!
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: Thanks so much
SCAMMER: am not
SCAMMER: But people think am model
ME: yeah i can see why they think that, you are very nice looking
ME: very sexy
SCAMMER: Yea thanks
ME: how old are you
ME: i am 25
ME: hello?

SCAMMER: Hi
SCAMMER: 'How are u ?
SCAMMER: <ding>
ME: hiya sweaty
SCAMMER: How are u today
ME: im fine thanks how are you
SCAMMER: Good ......honey
SCAMMER: How was your day
ME: very nice thank you
ME: would have been nicer if u were here
ME: how was your day>?
SCAMMER: yea.....babe
SCAMMER: Cool
SCAMMER: It will be nice
ME: yeah it would
SCAMMER: Really
ME: yeah deffinatly
ME: after you showed me your picture i cnt keep you out my mind
SCAMMER: Really ......Honey
SCAMMER: Same here too
ME: really?? thats nice to know
ME: what have you been u-p to today?>
SCAMMER: Well .....Honey am just back from work
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: i havent really been doing much today, just sunbathing outside
ME: u have good day at work
SCAMMER: Yea......Honey
ME: good
SCAMMER: Yea.....Babe
SCAMMER: What are u doing there now
ME: just listening to some music
ME: what time is it there?
SCAMMER: 4:30pm
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: 11pm
ME: so ill be going to bed shortly
SCAMMER: ok
ME: who knows I may dream of you
SCAMMER: Ok.....honey
SCAMMER: I will miss you then
ME: will miss you too
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: wish u was here to cuddle me
ME: did u get my last photos?
SCAMMER: Yea.....I got
SCAMMER: I wish i was there ...Babe
SCAMMER: I will play all over your boddy
ewwww!!
ME: have you got a girfriend then?
SCAMMER: No.....I haven,t got
SCAMMER: and u you got a Bf ?
ME: why not? someone so nice like you
ME: no i havent
SCAMMER: Really
ME: yea really
SCAMMER: Ok.....Honey
SCAMMER: Sorry
ME: what you sorry for?
SCAMMER: Where are u from ?
ME: Ireland
SCAMMER: In uk
ME: i told ytou that last time, i thought you said you were interested in coming over
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: I got it now
ME: im goingto bed now
ME: please will you email me more information abouty yourself
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: as id really like to get to know you better
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: nice profile picture
SCAMMER: Thanks
ME: what type of women do you like the best
ME: oh i got one last quesiton before i go to bed please
SCAMMER: Well. I will like beautiful women
SCAMMER: like you honey
ME: aw you think i am beautiful?
ME: anyway, my question is - do you have a religion? if so, what is it
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: am a Christian
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: I am a Christian too
ME: any particular type?
SCAMMER: Cathlonic and u ?
ME: yeah catholicism really interests me
ME: its very popular in ireland
SCAMMER: Really
ME: yes, Father Ted is my parish priest
ME: hes a great guy, him and Father Dougal and Jack, such friendly people
SCAMMER: Ok....honey
ME: anyway i gotta go. il ask father ted to say a prayer to keep you safe hun
ME: byeeeee
SCAMMER: Yea
ME:
SCAMMER: Ok

TO BE CONTINUED....

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

ME: Williams you never write emails to me, dont you like me anymore?
SCAMMER: Honey.....how are u ?
ME: how have you been? ive really missed you, its been so long since i heard from you
SCAMMER: I miss you too......honey
SCAMMER: am really sorry
SCAMMER: it a business ok
ME: whats a businesS?
SCAMMER: yea
ME: you havnt emailed me either
SCAMMER: i have a business trip to West Africa

("Oh really?? Now THERES A SUPRISE! Wouldnt be in Nigeria, any chance, would it?"

ME: oh i see
SCAMMER: am sorry
SCAMMER: ok
ME: wherabouts in W Africa
SCAMMER: in Nigeria

Why am I not suprised...

ME: did you enjoy your trip
SCAMMER: Honey ...i haven't go for the trip now
ME: oh ok
ME: when are you going to Nigeria
SCAMMER: it Lagos
ME: no when are you going
SCAMMER: tomorrow
SCAMMER: where are u now
ME: will you have email there?
ME: in my bedroom
SCAMMER: yea
ME: what do you have to do over there
SCAMMER: honey...it a contract am going there
ME: how long for?
SCAMMER: HONEY....let say next month
SCAMMER: ok
ME: ok
ME: will you get a lot of money for doing this job ?
SCAMMER: cos i will be back home on August 15 for my birthday
ME: great
SCAMMER: yea...i thinks so
ME: whereabouts do you currently live?
SCAMMER: i live in cali
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: Ireland

you forgetful dumbass, I already told you...Time to catch him out on his knowledge of American landmarks...

ME: i would love to visit California one day, i think it looks beautiful
ME: do you live near the golden gate bridge? i would love to go there someday
SCAMMER: yea.....honet
SCAMMER: honey

Wow, I never knew the Golden Gate Bridge was in California!! Must be those hurricaines...
ME: yes?
SCAMMER: you will come when i will mark my birthday ?
ME: wow, that would be great
ME: but i dont think i have enough money for the trip over there at the moment
SCAMMER: ok
ME: but that would be fantastic
ME: i would lvoe to come, if i possibly could ..?
SCAMMER: yea
SCAMMER: ok....there is no problem
ME: really?
SCAMMER: if there is time for yoy to come i will tell you or let me know
SCAMMER: ok
SCAMMER: yea
ME: yes
ME: but flights over there are really expensive
SCAMMER: yea
SCAMMER: there is no problem with the expensive of the flight ok
SCAMMER: i think i will do that
ME: how?
SCAMMER: i will let u know
SCAMMER: ok
ME: thank you so much
ME: i would LOVE to be able to come over and see you
ME: i would do anything
SCAMMER: yea
SCAMMER: i will love to you mylove too
ME: this is such brilliant news, im so excited
ME: believe me, i will do ANYTHING you ask for when we meet up
ME: it will be worth every penny with what i can give to you
SCAMMER: really
SCAMMER: honey ?
ME: yes?
ME: im sorry, but i really have to go now, hopefully i can see you online when you get to Nigeria. Please email me in the meantime, please???
SCAMMER: yea.....honey
SCAMMER: i will email when i reach there mylove
ME: ok have a safe trip, ill see you when you get there babe
SCAMMER: how it will be if you are with me
ME: ok , and iw ill ask father ted to keep praying for your safe flight
ME: yes please
SCAMMER: ok...honey
ME: i really look forward to reading your email
ME: it make sme excited to wait for it
SCAMMER: i just need your prayer
ME: and ill email you back
ME: ok babe, bye for now
ME: safe journey
ME: byeeee
SCAMMER: ok
SCAMMER: love you so much @];-love you so much @];-love you so much @];-
SCAMMER: <ding>

SCAMMER: Hi .....Honey
SCAMMER: How are u doing
SCAMMER: Well, I got your message
SCAMMER: am in Nigeria now
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: There is no problem Ok
SCAMMER: I know your mind will not be thinking of good when you hear that am travelling to Nigeria
SCAMMER: Well, I thanks My God and yours that i have reached there now
SCAMMER: And there is no problem with me
SCAMMER: I really happy when i see your message
SCAMMER: Honey.....Let me know when i will meet you online .....Okay
SCAMMER: Or you can call me on this Phone Number ...+2438082008903
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Thanks you .....Honey
SCAMMER: I love you So much I love you So much
SCAMMER: I love you So much I love you So much I love you So much
SCAMMER: Bye ....Take care of yourself
SCAMMER: Bye ....Love you more
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Miss you
ME: I am so glad you got there OK! I am online now, i should be for a few more hours
ME: i will be waiting for you
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: Hi
SCAMMER: am here now
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: I miss you so much
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: <ding>

SCAMMER: Hi My Love
ME: Hi !!!
SCAMMER: You are welcome
ME: how are you?
SCAMMER: Am fine
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: yes im fine thanks! im glad your safe
SCAMMER: Thanks
ME: what are you doing at the moment?
SCAMMER: Am chatting with you
SCAMMER: And u ?
ME: chatting with you

Duh, talk about stating the obvious

ME: tell me more about your plans for us
SCAMMER: Really
SCAMMER: Are u busy ?
ME: no, in fact i have been waiting to talk to you for a long time
ME: i really would like you to tell me about your plans for us
ME: brb
SCAMMER: ok
SCAMMER: <ding>
ME: hi
SCAMMER: am here
ME: can you please tell me more about your plans for us
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: All my plans now is that how me and you will get married
SCAMMER: ?

WOW! A proposal of marriage already!!!!! What a lucky girl I am! I am going to be Mrs Mugu!
ME: wow, really??
SCAMMER: Yea.....Babe
SCAMMER: That is what is my mind
ME: but i havent met you in person yet
ME: how do you know that you will like me enough to live with me forever?
SCAMMER: Yea....Babe
SCAMMER: But i know we will meet oneday
SCAMMER: When it my birthday
ME: but how can i get over when i cant afford to buy the tickets? i was looking at the prices online today, and it will cost over �700 for me
SCAMMER: Ok.....Honey
SCAMMER: That is no problem
SCAMMER: I will send the money
ME: really?
SCAMMER: to you
SCAMMER: When i got pay
ME: that is so kind of you
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: because you are so kind to me i would like to do something special for you
ME: i have some photos of me that i never show ANYONE. my last boyfriend (years ago) was a photographer and he took some special photos of me posing and i will send them to you if you like
SCAMMER: Ok...Honey
ME: i am sending the file now, are you receiving it
ME: wow i cant beelieve i amt o be married
SCAMMER: Really
SCAMMER: You don't believe it ?
ME: its so wonderful
ME: babe i sent you the photos please look at them
ME: but dont share them with anyone, they are just for YOU
SCAMMER: Ok....I got it now
SCAMMER: Thanks
ME: please look at them and tell me what you think
ME: these are my ex boyfriends pics and i scanend them in
SCAMMER: Ok....Babe
ME: he was a photographer
ME: i had dreams of being a model but it never happened for me
SCAMMER: Ok.....Honey
ME: did you look at the photos?
SCAMMER: Wait

I send him a few photos that were scans from a very old newspaper article on Jean Butler. Something like this should get his juices flowing...

SCAMMER: Honey.....Can call you call me now ?

Uh oh, better think of some excuses quick...

ME: i will try, whats the number
SCAMMER: +2348082008903
ME: i think i tried to call on one you gave me a while ago but it wouldnt work
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Honey this is +2348082008903 ok
ME: k
ME: i use my mobile phone although i dont khave much credit, will it drain the credit to ring nigeria??
ME: i only have under �2 on it
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Honey....Give me a miss call
ME: what is that
ME: have you seen my photos that i sent you yet williams?
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: You look so wonderful
ME: thankyou
ME: no one else has ever seen those photos
ME: they are private to me
ME: but i want you to see me if you are to marry me
ME: i hope you like my body
ME: because my body will belong to you
SCAMMER: Honey....Give me your phone number

Dammit hes persistant on wanting to talk to me.... oh well, time to use the classic "I cant phone you because im deaf" excuse...

ME: williams i have something i must tell you
ME: but promise you wont hate me for it????
SCAMMER: Yea...I wouldn't
SCAMMER: i love you
SCAMMER: Tell me
ME: ive not told you the truth about me, i have made excuses so that you wouldnt discover this about me because i thought you wont love me anymore.... the truth is i cant call you, and you cant call me because im almost completly deaf
ME: i didnt want you to find out because i thought you would hate me
ME: it happened when i was a teenager in a terrible accident. now the only things i can hear are very heavy drum beats, it still enables me to dance
ME: dancing is all i have left that keeps me going. dancing, and YOU
ME: and i didnt want you to leave me beacuse i am deaf
ME: im sorry if i misled you
ME: please, do you still love me?????
SCAMMER: Yea....I still love you
ME: you dont mind that i am deaf?
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: thats why i love to use email and messaging, because it lets me speak to people
SCAMMER: ok
ME: if you dont want to marry me now, i understand
ME: because i should have told you
SCAMMER: No....I will married you
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: oh thank you so much
SCAMMER: That's not a problem
ME: thank you thank you thank you thank you
ME: i will do ANYTHING for you now
SCAMMER: I wanna make you happy
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: you already do make me happy
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: I already to make you happy .....Babe
SCAMMER: And u ?
ME: yes i want to make you happy too
SCAMMER: Ok....

You know what? Isnt this all really, really SICK. Suppose this was for real. Suppose this was some vulnerable, gullable deaf girl who is not only going to get robbed but have her heart broken. This is the sort of thing that wrecks lives. The man is scum to stoop so low as to steal from a woman like this...
SCAMMER: Thanks ...I love you so much
ME: when will you be going home ?
SCAMMER: Let say August 15
ME: and when could i come over?
ME: i am going to visit the UK for a little while, i have family there, but i should be free after august 15th
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Can you give me your full address
ME: what will you be sending me?
SCAMMER: What do u want ?
SCAMMER: I will buy a Flower ?
ME: aww thats sweet
ME: you dont need to send me flowers, i know you love me
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: What do u want me to buy for you
ME: all i want is your love
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Give me your address
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: Jean Butler172 Blarney Road Strung-a-long Dublin Ireland DUB419B
ME: but dont forget im going to UK in a few days, and will be out of ireland for 2-3 weeks while i see parents
ME: so if you send stuff i wont get it for a while
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: im leaving on tuesday so you probably wont see me online for a little while
SCAMMER: Ok...Babe
ME: but really, you dont have to send me anything
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: What is your parent phone number
ME: id have to check with them first if its ok to give them out
ME: in fact, i dont think i want to tell myt parents about us just yet, because i dont think they will be happy with marrying someone from another country that i havent met
ME: you see, a few years ago, there was a man i met online and he wanted to marry me
ME: i agreed , he sent me a ring, and I even sent him money over for the wedding arrangements, then suddenly he said he didnt want to marry me after all and he stole �2,800 off me
ME: they were very angry and said i am a stupid girl for not realising that he just wanted money off me
ME: but i couldnt help it, i was so in love
ME: so can we keep this a secret love?? i will tell them about it when we are married
ME: Williams???? are you there babe
ME: when we are married, will we live in California or Ireland? you choose, you have been so kind
ME: i would love california, but ireland is also so beautiful
ME: Williams???!?!?!
ME: Williams, why arent you talking to me? ihave to go now, im sorry. i will be online later, i hope
ME: please email me what oyur plans are, where we shall live, what kind of house
ME: and when we shall get married? i need to know all these things
ME: please tell me
ME: goodbye for now...

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

ME: Williams are you thre please?
SCAMMER: Hi
SCAMMER: am here noe
SCAMMER: now
ME: hi my husband
SCAMMER: How are you.....My life
ME: fine thankyou my little willy
ME: i wanted to know what is going to happen when we get married, will we live in california or ireland
SCAMMER: Honey....We live any where you like whether Cali Or Ireland
SCAMMER: Choose your choice Ok
ME: I want to live in ireland cos i think cali will be too hot for me
ME: I dont handle the heat very well you see
ME: do you want to get married in ireland as i can get father ted to do the servce for us
SCAMMER: Ok...Honey
SCAMMER: I wil take your choice
ME: what date would you want to get married?
ME: do you want any chilkdren
ME: i love children
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: I love Children too
ME: how many do you want
ME: i would like at least 3
SCAMMER: 3 yea
SCAMMER: It ok for us
SCAMMER: Hun ?
ME: what kind of wedding would you like
SCAMMER: I like church marriage
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: what date would you like tyo get married. Im really EXCITED
SCAMMER: Honey....Let say August when i back from home
ME: next month
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: but but but dont u think we shud meet eachother first
ME: id be so upset if it didnt work out
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: I will meet each other first
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: thats good
ME: i wanrt to look beautiful for you
ME: have beautifu dress
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
SCAMMER: Honey....Give me your address again
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: what do you need it for
SCAMMER: I need it

glad thats sorted out then. You forgetful mugu!!

SCAMMER: When am coming back from home
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: Jean Butler 172 Blarney Road Strung-a-long Dublin Ireland DUB419B
SCAMMER: Your phone number i will text you
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: i dont have a phone, im deaf, remember?

Careless, Williams! VERY careless!

SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: I think you have
SCAMMER: Honey....Can i see you on Webcam
ME: sorry you cant because its not working. do you have a webcam?
ME: i want to see if you are still as beautiful as your photos
SCAMMER: Ok....
SCAMMER: I don't have a Webcam here
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: ok
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
SCAMMER: Honey...Are u there ?
ME: yes
ME: im going to bed in a bit
ME: to dream abut you
SCAMMER: Ok.....Honey
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: does your family know about our marriage
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
SCAMMER: and u ?
ME: no i not told anyone
ME: you know what my family think
SCAMMER: ok
ME: did you get my message last night
SCAMMER: I only told my Mum and
ME: about how i was tricked by someone who said they wanted to marry me
SCAMMER: Yea
ME: it was so terrible, i nearly cut my wrists because it made me so unhappy
ME: but now you have made me happy again
ME: anyway i have to go
ME: byeeeeeee
ME:
SCAMMER: Bye.....Honey
SCAMMER: I love you I love you
SCAMMER: I will make you happy home
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Miss you babe

Again, just trying to get across to you (and him) how sick this all is. The girl has been scammed before, and nearly commited suicide over it. If this "romance" fails, Williams could have a death on his hands and still he continues with the scam.... This man deserves no mercy, and he will get none...

SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: Hi
SCAMMER: How are u ?
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: Hi
SCAMMER: How are u ?
ME: hi baby
SCAMMER: Honey....I hope you are there with mer
SCAMMER: me ?
ME: what do you mean?
SCAMMER: How are u ?
ME: missing you soooooooooooooooooo much...
SCAMMER: I miss you too
ME: what r u doing right now?
SCAMMER: How is your day
ME: im sitting here in my bra and pants cos its so hot
SCAMMER: Well, am chatting with you Mylove
SCAMMER: and you
ME: how was your day
SCAMMER: Honey....Cool
SCAMMER: and yours
ME: busy
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: What do u do up today
ME: teachind my little class dancing
SCAMMER: Ok...Honey
SCAMMER: I hope they enjoy when you teaching them
ME: yes they do they r very good
SCAMMER: Nice ....Hoony
SCAMMER: honey
SCAMMER: Let me know when you are going to your parent place
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: tomorro
ME: so ill b offline for a few days
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: I miss you
SCAMMER: I will chatting with you
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: ive been talking to fatjer ted and he says he can marry us on cragy island
ME: which is a beautiful tiny island of the west of ireland
SCAMMER: Ok.....Honey
SCAMMER: That good
ME: he will probably email you some paper worl soon
ME: work
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: When you are in your parent place you will not chat with me ?
SCAMMER: Hun /
SCAMMER: ?
ME: no i cant i will be back on saturday
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
SCAMMER: That mean
SCAMMER: I will miss you so much here
ME: yes sorry
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
SCAMMER: Thanks
ME: who's your parish preist
SCAMMER: Honey...Sorry
SCAMMER: am here
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: who's your parish preist
ME: why do you always take so long to reply? im your fiance, are you talking to other women now?
SCAMMER: No..honey
SCAMMER: I just thinking about something
ME: thinking about what?
SCAMMER: Father Joe
ME: oh right, whats his last name? Father Ted might know him, he knows a lot of priests throughout the world
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: whats his last name?
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
ME: whats his last name?
ME: i got to go now, i might see you later or otherwise it will be next saturday
ME: byeeeeee
SCAMMER: Honey....I don't no idea
SCAMMER: Ok....HOney
SCAMMER: It Father Joe Carroll...
SCAMMER: Ok
SCAMMER: Are u there
ME: ok thanks very much
ME: #es im here but im going offline now
SCAMMER: Ok....Honey
ME: i might see you later or otherwise it will be next saturday
ME: take care, byeeeeeeee
SCAMMER: I will miss you so much
SCAMMER: Here
SCAMMER: I will not feel okay
SCAMMER: Ok
ME: dont cry my love, ill be back before you know it
ME: pleae write me a nice email so i can read it when i get back
ME: goodbye

SCAMMER: Hi.....Honey
SCAMMER: How are u doing there
SCAMMER: Today
SCAMMER: I really miss you so much
SCAMMER: I hope you enjoy your familly house so much
SCAMMER: Greet them for me
SCAMMER: I really miss you so much
SCAMMER: I love you
SCAMMER: I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you

ME: i'm back home now baby
ME: hi
ME: i have been waiting to talk to you
ME: hello????
SCAMMER: Hi
ME: how are you? ive missed you
SCAMMER: how are you today?
ME: im fine thankyou
SCAMMER: i missed you too
ME: where are you at the moment
SCAMMER: Am still in Nigeri
SCAMMER: Nigeria
ME: Ah ok, do you have your flights organised to go back home yet
SCAMMER: In the hotel there
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: How do u enjoy your journey
ME: it was fine, thankyou
ME: glad to be back home so that i can talkt oy ou
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: I think by next week
ME: Thats great
SCAMMER: ty
ME: im sorry to have to ask you this, but will you be sending me money so that i can come over? its just that i dont have much money at the moment
SCAMMER: No.....I don't have money
SCAMMER: That what i want to ask you before
SCAMMER: ok
ME: OK
SCAMMER: Can get you me some money.....Honey ?

Oh HERE IT COMES! I must admit, he has been patient, not asking for money off me immediatly... I wonder what he could want money for...

ME: money for what
SCAMMER: Honey...I need it for my flight
SCAMMER: I will pay you back ....Honey
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: When i get back home
ME: How much do you need?
ME: I have �1,419 in the bank and thats all
SCAMMER: Okay.....Honey
SCAMMER: I need � 900
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: wont your company give you money to get back
SCAMMER: They haven't pay me yet
SCAMMER: Honey....Try for me
SCAMMER: I will pay you back
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: willy ou be able to send me money to come to see you when you get back home?
SCAMMER: Yes.........Honey
SCAMMER: I promise you
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: when can i have the money back?
SCAMMER: So can you afford to borrow me the money?
ME: i dont have that much to spare, but what i have is yours
SCAMMER: As soon as i'm back home
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: which is in august?
SCAMMER: So how much can you afford to borrow me?
SCAMMER: cos i need to be back home as soon as possible
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: Are you there....Honey?
ME: yes i am
ME: will �900 be enough?
ME: to get back home safely, i mean
SCAMMER: Yea...Honey
ME: you sure? i could give you a bit more if its not enough, but i only have �1,419 in the bank, i had a statement from them today
SCAMMER: i still have � 100 to join to make it � 1,000 to bring me back home safely......Honey
SCAMMER: So when are you sending me the money?

ME: when do you need it for
SCAMMER: Monday morning
ME: its sunday tommorow and the banks will be closed, but i can probably go into the city monday
SCAMMER: okay...Honey
ME: listen williams, i will do this for you, but you need to do me a favour first
ME: i was talking to Father Ted about our marriage today
SCAMMER: That's fine ....Honey
SCAMMER: so what did he say?
ME: he says that he can perform a ceremony on the 21 September 2006 in Craggy Island
SCAMMER: i mean father Ted?
ME: and i have already paid the fees (�400) to hire it
SCAMMER: cool......Honey
ME: but he said that because this is a holy catholic wedding, you, as the husband must fill in a marriage application request form
ME: he has sent it me as a file so that i can send it to you to fill in
SCAMMER: Great......Honey
ME: he has asked for me to send it you, and he requested that you print this form out, fill it in and scan it in, then send it back to me
ME: i will print it out and give it to him
SCAMMER: so send it so i can fill it
SCAMMER: ok
ME: if you will do this for me by Monday then i will go to Dublin and sort out the money transfer
ME: you must also send me an email with details of how to send you this money, since i am not sure...?
SCAMMER: Okay...Honey
SCAMMER: will do anything for you
ME: ok thankyou
ME: do you think you can have it filled in and sent to me monday? because while im in london i can visit the offices of Father Ted and give him this information
ME: and then i will know you are serious about marrying me
ME: sorry, Dublin, not london
SCAMMER: you can send the money to me through western union or money gram whichever suites you....Honey
ME: there is western union in Dublin
SCAMMER: okay....honey
SCAMMER: so when are you sending the form?
ME: i will send it now, then i have to go to bed
SCAMMER: And are you sure you're sending me the money on Monday?
ME: if you will complete this form for me, then i will know that i can trust you and will send the money, if you send me an email explaining how to do it
SCAMMER: are you sending the form now?
ME: yes i sent it now
SCAMMER: Honey...send the form to me now
ME: and now i really have to go, my love
ME: i have sent it
ME: it will come through now
ME: i have to go to bed now, thankyou for everythying
SCAMMER: Okay...Honey
ME: goodnight ! sleep well
SCAMMER: so i will explain to you how to send me the money
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: Bye

I send him a 6 page time wasting excercise of a document he has to fill in for the wedding. I wont bother posting it just yet, you will see it later when he fills it in (eventually)

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

Days pass and he hasnt filled in my forms yet!! Time to pester him via email

EMAIL TO SCAMMER:

Dear Williams,

I have been waiting to talk to you but you are not online, so I just had to write to you! I have had such an exciting day, I went on the boat over to Craggy Island to meet up with Father Ted and to meet the woman who is to do my wedding dress and makeup, Enya. She has taken some beautiful photos of me in full makeup in Craggy Islands church, so I have attached them so you can see the church and I want YOU to choose what wedding dress I wear!

One of them is traditional white, yet it is very daring as you can see in the picture of me on the altar, where there is quite a large cut in it so you can see my long, shapely legs !

The other dress is even more daring - BLACK! But very elegant and sexy.

Have a look at the pictures and tell me which dress you prefer me to wear on our wedding day , I want you to choose! I also got Enya to take a photo of me and Father Ted so you can see what he looks like. He looks forward to meeting you.

With all the business at Craggy Island today I was unable to draw out that money for you. I had to pay �400 to Father Ted and an advance of �300 to Enya for the wedding dress and makeup package, leaving me with less than �720 left in my bank account, so I cant send you the full ammount this week anyway. However at the end of the week (Friday) I am going to be going to Cornwall to dance in a show and they are paying me �500 per performance, and hopefully I will be doing at least 5 performances, so I will have MUCH more money soon to send to you, so bear with me a little while, okay babe?

I hope you are OK with the application form. Father Ted wanted to give the form to Father Jack Hackett (Head of the Craggy Island F.E.C.K organisation) today but you hadnt sent it me so I couldnt print it out. I have just got your message saying you didnt realise my age. I am 25. I hope there will be no more problems, and if you can get it to me as soon as possible I can email or fax Father Ted the information. THanks so much for doing this Williams, talk to you later!

SCAMMER: Honey...Are u there
SCAMMER: Let me know when i will meet you online
SCAMMER: I will be online by 6;45 pm here
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: I need to talk with you
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: <ding>
SCAMMER: Come online now am here
SCAMMER: okay
SCAMMER: <ding>
ME: Hi Williams
ME: I am here now
ME: I am 25
SCAMMER: Hi....Honey
SCAMMER: am online now
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: I will need to talk with you
SCAMMER: I got your message
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: I will be online by 10:30pm
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: I hope to meet you by that time ?
SCAMMER: Hi...Honey
ME: hi
SCAMMER: How are u doing today ?
ME: im fine thankyou!
SCAMMER: I really miss you
ME: did you get my email i sent today with the photos in?
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
ME: what do you think of the wedding dresses and makeup?
ME: Craggy Island church looks so beautiful when they put all those tinted lights on, so romantic... the photos dont do it justice, its so beautiful when you are actually there
SCAMMER: Yea Honey
SCAMMER: I really love this pics
ME: which dress do you think is the bst one
SCAMMER: Honey....The 7 one
SCAMMER: 7thone
ME: which one is that?
ME: i think i only sent 5 pics
SCAMMER: Honey....You sent me 6 photo
ME: oh yeah
SCAMMER: But the last one is the best ?
ME: which one was it? was it the one with me and Father Ted or was i on my own
ME: which one was it? was it the one with me and Father Ted or was i on my own
SCAMMER: The 4th one
SCAMMER: Okay ?
ME: the one with the throne on the altar?
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
ME: so is that the wedding dress you want me to choose?
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
SCAMMER: Or which one do u like to choose ?
ME: is it because you can see a lot of my legs on it ?
ME: i like the black one but i think black is too dark for a wedding, so white would be best
ME: i just hope people wont be shocked by the sexy white one
SCAMMER: Honey.....i have print ou the file and fill it
ME: thankyou
ME: can you scan it in and email it me
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: Whit will be better '
ME: yes i think so too
ME: so can you scan and email me the completed forms so i can email it to Father Ted
SCAMMER: Okay.....Honey
ME: thank you for doing this
SCAMMER: I will send it today
ME: i know it was a long form, but you know how the church can be with their paperwork
ME: i really appreciate you doing it for me
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
SCAMMER: I print out 6 copies
ME: great
ME: yes make sure you have a copy over there for your reference just in case there are problems
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: I will do that
ME: thankyou so much
SCAMMER: Honey...You say that you can't send the money again ?
ME: yeah, like i said, i had to pay a lot of the money up front to Father Ted and to Enya
ME: but on Friday I am going to the south to perform in a series of shows
SCAMMER: So now you can't send any to me now
SCAMMER: Am really broke here
ME: when i am back i can
ME: i will have at least �5,000
SCAMMER: You know that the company haven't pay me yet
ME: but at the moment i have only about �700
ME: so its not enough for your ticket
SCAMMER: Yea...Okay
SCAMMER: But i have money in my account in the State
ME: cant you get access to that money?
SCAMMER: Honey.....I will fight with the company when am back
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: do you have high speed internet where you are
SCAMMER: Yea...Honey
SCAMMER: Are u there
ME: because a few years ago i was in a dance show and i found a clip of it online if you wanted to see me dance
SCAMMER: Yea....I want to see them
ME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seJ6c_AjlY you can see it there, its a big group dance, i am not in it for the first minute, then i come in and i dance a little on my own
ME: it was back in the year 2000 though
ME: it was the last big show i was in, nowadays i just dance in small shows but next week they are paying me a lot of money for my performances
SCAMMER: Okay...Honey
ME: Father Ted is really looking forward to meeting you
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: I wish to him too myself
SCAMMER: I know when will meet that day will be rejoice for us
ME: yes i know it will too
SCAMMER: Honey....Am watching your dance now
ME: what do yuo think of it
SCAMMER: I love you too much
SCAMMER: I love it
ME:
ME: have you seen the part with me in it
ME: because im not in at first
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
ME: this was on television a few years ago, i think it was even on in the states
SCAMMER: I really love the part you are
SCAMMER: Okay.....Honey
ME: i can only do dances with lots of heavy rhythms like this because i cant hear so well
ME: i need to feel beats through my body
SCAMMER: Okay.....Honey
SCAMMER: I know
ME: do your famiyl know that you are marrying me
SCAMMER: Honey....Send me your address again

Again??? You dumb mugu!!! I have sent it you twice already! Havent you heard of a pen and paper??? Stay calm, Jean...

SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: I have inform my Mum and my sister
SCAMMER: They are really happy that am getting married with you
ME: Jean Butler 172 Blarney Road Strung-a-long Dublin Ireland DUB419B
ME: have they seen my photos
ME: do you have a brother as well, or just a sister?
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
ME: what do your family think of my pics
SCAMMER: They really love you so much to be with me
SCAMMER: For the rest of my life
SCAMMER: Are you doing something there >?
ME: no
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: Honey....When i can get the �700 ?
SCAMMER: Are u there ?
ME: i thought you wanted �900
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
SCAMMER: When you will send it now ?
ME: when i have done my dance performances next week
ME: i should be getting at least �5,000

I wonder if this will make him ask for more money soon. What do you think? Answers on a postcard...

ME: at the moment all i have left is about �720 and i cant send you that, i need money to live on, i need money to travel
SCAMMER: Honey.....You can't send me any amount this week ?
ME: im sorry, but no
ME: if you love me you will be patient with me
ME: why is it that you have no money over there, why wont your company pay you
ME: have you been fired
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
ME: why did they fire you
SCAMMER: I don't know .....Honey
ME: they fired you and you dont know why?
ME: they must have told you why
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
ME: dont you have any savings at all
SCAMMER: They want to pay me but i think they will pay me cashed
ME: oh ok, when will they pay you cash
SCAMMER: Yea
SCAMMER: But am not in State now
ME: what abotu the money that you took over to nigeria with you to live on
SCAMMER: am just worried about the wedding
ME: well so far i have paid �600 towards the wedding
ME: thats hwy i dont have much money now
SCAMMER: Honey...Am still owing the Hotel bill
ME: but i will have next week
ME: why dont you just run away from the hotel without paying
SCAMMER: I can't honey
SCAMMER: Do u want me in trouble here
SCAMMER: ?
ME: of course i dont, im really sorry but i cant send anything this week, i dont have enough, i need to pay for my travelling to get to this show and the company wont be paying me back until i have done all 5 performances
ME: dont worry it will all be sorted out soon
SCAMMER: Okay
SCAMMER: When next week ?
ME: i am away from 5-14th August doing a show with the Chippendales, then i am back home
SCAMMER: When you will back home?
ME: 14th august, i just said
SCAMMER: Honey.....I will pay you back
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: i know you will
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: The money with me today i have spent all here for the form
ME: what do you mean, you spent it on the form
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
ME: how?
SCAMMER: Honey....I have to print it out and then scann it again
ME: printing out paper doesnt cost much money
SCAMMER : Okay.....Honey
ME: why is it that whenever i ask a question you reply with "Okay....Honey" or "Yea...Honey" but dont answer my question? it makes me feel like you are not paying attention to what im saying
SCAMMER : No am paying attention to what you are saying
ME: why do you always say the same thing and not answer my question
SCAMMER : What is your question
SCAMMER : Sorry if am not
ME: i asked you what do you want to talk about
SCAMMER : About the married
ME: ok i have a question
SCAMMER : My familly told me that which day i will be marriedand have a chilld
ME: do you want children
SCAMMER : Yea.....Honey

There he goes again with his Yea Honeys, it drives me nuts!
ME: how many?
SCAMMER : I want chilldren
ME: i want children too
SCAMMER : 3 is okay
SCAMMER : ?
ME: yes i think 3 is just perfect
ME: i have another queston that i must ask
SCAMMER : Okay
SCAMMER : ask me
ME: have you ever had sex with anyone before?
SCAMMER : No
SCAMMER : i haven't
SCAMMER : And you ?
ME: yes, a few times
SCAMMER : Okay....
ME: does this shock you
SCAMMER : But what do u fill in the form you fill it that have sex before?
ME: you have to fill it out truthfully
BUZZ!!!
ME: so if you have not, then say that you have not
SCAMMER : But what do u fill about having sex before with another sex ?
ME: just answer it honestly
ME: have you had sex with a man before?
SCAMMER : Yea.....Honey

HELLO??!?!? That got my attention again! I thought that kind of thing was frowned on over there...

ME: really?
SCAMMER : What do u say there ?
ME: you have had sex with a man???
BUZZ!!!
SCAMMER : No
ME: you just said you did
SCAMMER : am asking you that when you say that you have sex before
ME: what about it
SCAMMER : Nothing
ME: i asked if you had sex with a man before and you said "yea honey"
SCAMMER : No....i don't
ME: oh ok, why did you say you had
SCAMMER : No....Honey
SCAMMER : I don't
ME: hmmm ok
SCAMMER : Am asking you question
ME: waht is the question
SCAMMER : But you don't get it
ME: tell me
SCAMMER : me
ME: ?
ME: what is the question
SCAMMER : Let forget about it
ME: ok
ME: i have one last question that i must have answered about sex
ME: after we are married, how would you feel if i said that i wanted my ex- boyfriend (Colin) to join us in bed and make love to us both
ME: would you be ok with that or not
ME: other men i have been with love it and other say no
ME: i need to know how you feel on that
SCAMMER : Why.....Honeyu
ME: because i enjoy making love to 2 men at once
SCAMMER : No No No No No No No No
SCAMMER : I will not feel good
SCAMMER : Okay
LOL thats the livliest he has ever been in a chat with me!
ME: ok
SCAMMER : That is bad '
ME: i am sorry
SCAMMER : You better get him or me
ME: i just thought id ask
ME: no no it would just be you then
ME: its just that in the past i have done that
SCAMMER : You have to choose one
SCAMMER : Okay '
ME: but i have never been married before
ME: ok ok
ME: ok i will be faithful to you only
ME: i will never see Colin again
SCAMMER : Okay.....Honey
ME: thank you for being honest and open with discussing these things with me. now i really have to go and practise my dancing for the show next week
SCAMMER : Okay....Honey
ME: i will be online eithe rtommorow or wednesday. please try to get those forms sent on so i can send them to Father Ted and Father Jack at the FECK
SCAMMER : Honey....when are you going to get me the money in next week
SCAMMER : ?
ME: i have told you so many times, it will be after the 14th August now, because i spent so much money on the wedding dress and makeup bookings
ME: i really have to go and practise my dancing now, goodbye for now my husband
ME: byeeeeeeeeeee

Still no forms...

SCAMMER: hi......Honey
SCAMMER: How are u doing there today
SCAMMER: How is your day now ?
SCAMMER: i really miss you so much
ME: Hello?
ME: hello?
SCAMMER: How are u ?
SCAMMER: Honey....Are u there
SCAMMER: am here
ME: yes im here
ME: how are you??
SCAMMER: am fine ...honey
SCAMMER: and u today
ME: im ok but a bit dissapointed that i have not got the forms back off you yet
ME: i am being asked by Father Jack about it all the time, he says its very urgent
SCAMMER: Honey....Am really sorry okay
SCAMMER: I will send it today
SCAMMER: okay
ME: ok thankyou
ME: wat have you been doing today
SCAMMER: Honey....I went got off today
SCAMMER: i don't work today
SCAMMER: and u ?\
ME: practising for the shows next week
SCAMMER: Okay.....Honey
ME: are your family coming over to ireland for the wedding
SCAMMER: Yea.....Honey
SCAMMER: Or what do u thuink about it
SCAMMER: ?
SCAMMER: and your ?
ME: i havent told them yet
ME: remember what i said about the last man i was to marry?
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: Okay...honey
ME: do you remember what happened
SCAMMER: No...Honey
SCAMMER: I have forget it
SCAMMER: You told me about it
ME: ok
ME: anyway i have to go now
ME: but ill see you tommorow or friday before i go away, hopefully
ME: i will keep checking my emails for your form, thanks
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

EMAIL TO SCAMMER:

Alright I have tried being reasonable and patient but I am getting so FED UP of you not sending me that form! Whats the big delay?? How hard is it to fill in a simple form?? I am being pestered constantly by Father Ted and Father Jack who say I will LOOSE my deposit money if they dont receive this form from you soon. Dont forget that I am going to the South for over a week tommorow, so if I dont have it by Friday then I will not be able to get near a computer for another week, by then it will be too late and I will have lost a lot of money! If that happens then I wont send you any money at all !! So please hurry, I dont understand why you are delaying, dont you want to marry me????? You PROMISED me that I would have it yesteday. Do your promises mean nothing? What about the promise to marry me? Will you still marry me or do you only want money off me?? Prove that you love me by sending me the form NOW!

EMAIL FROM SCAMMER:

Honey....Pleased am really sorry for the delay okay...

I promise you that i will send the form by tomorrow morning by 11.am okay and you can send it to Father Ted by 12.am ..okay

And you say that you will not send me any money am not need your money okay...i think you understand me what make me still here ...Well you don't help me with money that not a problem for me ...when the company pay me up my money i will get back home ...okay

You say to me that i only need you money and that shouldn't be say out in your mouth and hear it from you ...I tell you that i want to married that my familly problem that i haven't married still now when do i want to get a Child...

So let me know when i will meet you online tomorrow morning when i will send the form...Jean i love you i wanna marry you .You are best woman in the world .Marriage may be made in heaven, but the maintenance must be done on earth.Two hearts that have been merged is marriage; two souls that have been merged is fate.Whenever life seems to drift you away from me, I can't help but cry. You've grown to be such a part of me that without you life is no more than a desperate sigh. They do say love comes and goes, and to that I disagree. So, here's my hand, take it and don't let go of me.I give you all my love because I truly love you, but I can't give you my soul and my heart because you'll just break it apart.Love is not sweet talks and flowers, but love is forgiving and compromising.

Love me without fear.
Trust me without wondering.
Love me without restrictions.
Want me without demand.
Accept me how I am.
A love like that, will be eternal.

Jean I Love You So Much I Will Always And Always Love You .

Williams Darren
YourLover

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Then, just when I was thinking I would never get my forms back... SUCCESS!!! I get some hilarious trophy forms back! Must have took him a while to fill it in, such a shame�

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

EMAIL TO SCAMMER:

Dearest Williams,

THANK YOU so much for filling in the form! I am sorry I shouted at you, I was just frustrated because I felt you were not serious in marrying me and just wanted my money. This has happened to me before when I met a man online and he said he wanted to marry me, i sent him money for the marriage and then he stole it and said that he wasnt to marry me after all. With you talking about money all the time and not filling in the form, I thought this of you. But now I know you are serious about it. Thank you.

I have sent the form to Father Ted and I am sure he will be satisfied with your answers. Thankyou!

I will speak to you when I get back, thankyou again love, I will miss you.

FROM SCAMMER:

Hello.....Honey

How are u doing at the show ....I hope the show is okay with you ,you are really enjoy it ....I really miss you so much ....i don't it will take you so much day to come back home ...If am there i will like to follow you to the show ...Multiply it by infinity, take it to the depths of forever and you'll still only have a glimpse of how much I love you.If enduring pain, braving shame, despising one's self for the sake of affection and accepting misery without question is the definition of love - then, I LOVE YOU.

Honey....When you are back pls let me know ....Okay

I Love You And I Need You Always In My Sides....

YourLover,
Williams Darren

And another one! He is going to regret sending this one, notice the careless copy and pasting from lovingyou.com �

Daer...Honey

How are u doing today..I hope everything is going on better ..
Well, everything will be better with us as soon we are together...i have good business doing with the compnay ...i know you are perfect in dancing ...Okay

I will really miss you so much now ...When you are back let me know ...Okay

Hey, Honey ... I miss you. I'm just here thinking about you, like I always do. I hope you're as happy as me; Sunday is almost here again. The thought of you in my arms right now sounds so good to me. I just want you to know how much I love you.
Ever since the first time I heard you on the phone and heard your cute voice, I miss you every second of my life. I knew I found someone special. I will always remember how sweet you are and how every time my phone rang and I heard your sweet voice I would smile and I was happy from that point on....
Love always,

Williams Darren

IM DEAF, REMEMBER? And never spoken to him on the phone! Such carelessness deserves a slapping!

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EMAIL TO SCAMMER:

Hi Williams, I am back home now thankyou, and I look forward to talking to you later on tonight, there is something we must discuss. The show went great and I got a lot of money from it, so thats good. But I am very unhappy when I read something in your email, when you wrote:

"Ever since the first time I heard you on the phone and heard your cute voice, I miss you every second of my life. I knew I found someone special. I will always remember how sweet you are and how every time my phone rang and I heard your sweet voice I would smile and I was happy from that point on.... "

What is that supposed to be, some kind of insult??? You have NEVER spoke to me on the phone, never!! I am DEAF, remember??? So how is it that you say you have spoke to me on the phone???? Are youy getting confused with ANOTHER WOMAN who you are chatting to? Whats going on? Those words didnt sound like you, so I typed what you had said into an internet search and found that those words are taken from lovingyou.com a romance poetry website!!! Cant you even find something original to say to me that you have to steal poetry from the internet? DIdnt you even bother to read it and change it so that it suited us?? That is really careless and it makes me wonder just how much you care about me.

FROM SCAMMER:

Hello...Honey

Am very happy that you are back home now...

Honey....I will like to talk with you today....I have miss u so much ...Am really sorry for the sent message you will not like and make unhapppy....

Pls...I don't want to you to be sad ..All i want you for is happiness...

Pls...if that is my mistake sorry about it...

I love you so much ...You have contain my life and both everything in my heart...
I don't chat with another woman ...okay pls dont confused with me and don't allow devil to confused you....Okay

I want you be my wife ,my queen in life ...

YourLove,

Williams Darren

TO SCAMMER:

I am sorry but I was unable to get online last night , and Im not sure if I can get on later today, it might have to be tommorow evening now.

Tell me, why did yu send me an email saying you had spoken to me on the phone when you hadnt? Why did you tell me this lie? It was very upsetting.

FROM SCAMMER:

Honey....Am really miss you so here ..I think you remember that my birthday is today?When i back to state i will celebrate it with you...

Well, Honey I don't tell you lie...Okay When i dream about you, the dream is that i spoken with you on phone that when i hear your voice is so cute to heard on phone ....Honey

Pls...Now that you say that you have the got some money ...And you know that i need money here ?

I need to pay the hotel bills...the hotel manager ask me today about the money but i told him that i waiting for some money when the came i will let him know and i collect it account so that you can send the money there so when you send it him can remove the money i want to pay them ....

Honey the money i need now it up to EUR2,000 ...The company what to pay me Cheque but i told them i can't take cheque from them now .That when reach the state that i will take and cash it and pay you your money back You are not the one that will be take care of the marriage am the one that should done that but i know when i get back home every will be okay with us ...Okay
Send it through the manager account this is account....

Akinyemi A. Moxiz
Ac/No..0102120132450

Pls..send it tomorrow morning and let me know when you send the money..Okay

Let me here tommorow evening online ....

Honey...Try and send the money tomorrow morning...We need to discuss well ...

Yourlover,

Williams Darren

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

And now, the truth comes out � sort of�

ME: Hi
SCAMMER: Honey...Where have you been since am here ?
ME: i havent been able to get on yahoo
SCAMMER: Okay....Honey
SCAMMER: How are u ?
ME: im ok
SCAMMER: okay....Honey
ME: i am confused by your emails
ME: why do oyu need �2,000 off me
SCAMMER: Honey....I know you will confused cos i told you before that i need �900
ME: yes and then after that you said that you dont need ANY money from me, remember
ME: i have your email right here
ME: you said "And you say that you will not send me any money am not need your money okay...i think you understand me what make me still here ...Well you don't help me with money that not a problem for me ...when the company pay me up my money i will get back home ...okay "
SCAMMER: Honey....I say that
SCAMMER: Yea....Honey
SCAMMER: When you are saying that i only need your money
ME: and this has proved it because now you know i have some money from my show, you are asking for much more than you originally asked for
SCAMMER: Honey....You say to me that when you back from the show that you will send the money to me ?
ME: no, I NEVER said that. you said you dont need my money any more in that email above
ME: you said above "AM NOT NEED YOUR MONEY OKAY"
SCAMMER: Now i need the money

ME: i have been talking to my brother about our marriage and insted of being happy for us he was horrified, he was really concerned and said that you are a nigerian scammer just after my money, and i believe this confirms it is true
SCAMMER: Am sorry okay
ME: because now i look back at your old emails and chat logs, all you talk about is asking me to send you money
ME: is what he speaks the truth
SCAMMER: Are you coming a Scammer now
SCAMMER: what is the meaning of this
SCAMMER: ?
ME: what?
ME: YOU are the scammer it would seem
ME: my brother has read all our old chat logs and he says your a nigerian romance scammer
ME: the fact that you are trying to get me to send �2,000 to a bank account in nigeria that isnt in your name proves this
ME: you have been grooming me for weeks, abusing me, lying to me
ME: is that not true?
SCAMMER: You know i don't have an account to get money from here
SCAMMER: ?
ME: so who am i sending the money to? your accomplice? your bumchum?
SCAMMER: I don't have a driver lience
ME: whats that got to do with anything
SCAMMER: You are sending it the manager hotel account
ME: so do you deny that you are a nigerian scammer ?
SCAMMER: Am not....Honey
SCAMMER: If you are not interested in the marriage anymore let me know
ME: well answer me this then, if you are not a liar, why are all the photos you sent me of you from a website for male models????? for a man with a different name to you??!
ME: me and my brother found them on the website
ME: answer me, mugu!
SCAMMER: Well, am model before
ME: LIAR, you told me that you are not a model when i first asked you about it
ME: why does the model have a different name to you
ME: and why does he have a WEDDING RING on his finger? Are you already married?
SCAMMER: No....
SCAMMER: Can you tell me the website you got my pics ?
ME: no, because you will only use it to lie and change your story
ME: why is the name on the website different
ME: and tlel me what name it would be
ME: because your name is on it but its not williams darren its something else
ME: so if your not a liar, what is the name that would be on the website?
ME: and THEN i will show you the site
ME: cmon mugu, im waiting
ME: its not polite to leave a lady waiting especially if you want her to send �2,000 to you
SCAMMER: What is the website
ME: tell me the name first
ME: then i will show you the website
ME: what is your model name
ME: if you dont tell me then its obvious you have just taken photos off a website and send them people ,lying to them , saying that the photos are you
ME: when in fact you are nothing but a nigerian mugu tryign to steal money from vulnerable women, you dispicable lying cheating SCUM!
ME: you would steal �2,000 off a deaf woman and break her heart just because you are too stupid or lazy to work for a living? how DARE you!!!
SCAMMER: You what to know my name ?
ME: yes
SCAMMER: in website before ?>
ME: if you truly are a model let me know your model name
ME: because i know its not williams, thats just a made up LIAR name
ME: hurry, im waiting, because i have to go offline in a minute
ME: i need this sorted out right now or you can forget about the wedding
ME: HURRY UP AND ANSWER MUGU, ITS NOT HARD! WHAT WAS YOUR MODEL NAME ??
SCAMMER: It Mike
ME: found the website in the end, did we?
ME: took you long enough to answer
ME: http://www.focusagencyhawaii.com/view_male_models.htm there you go, you lying cheating mugu
ME: so why did you tell me you were not a model
ME: why did you say your name is williams when its MIKE?
ME: im waiting, you slowass
ME: yawn
ME: how dare you abuse a vulnerable deaf woman
ME: how dare you tell her that you are going to marry her when you have no intention of doing it
ME: do you realise that you are the lowest of the low, the worst kind of scumbag to crawl on the earth? do you, mugu?
SCAMMER: Hey....Let me know if you are not interested in me anymore
ME: DUH!!!!!! do you think i would marry you after all this????? dont even botgher trying to deny it, i know you are a liar and a theif and a mugu who cant spell
ME: you were NEVER goign to marry me in the first place, were you?
ME: you were stringing me along, you scumbag. How dare you treat a deaf woman this way
SCAMMER: Hey....I don't tell you that i will married you
SCAMMER: You tell me to married ?
ME: you LIAR, you said you would marry me
SCAMMER: uop
ME: why else did you think i BOUGHT A DRESS, BOOKED THE CHURCH WITH FATHER TED
ME: you say you are a catholic, well dont you know that LIARS are judged by God
ME: isnt one of the ten commandments to not lie
ME: you have lied to me from beginning to end. you are a liar and a theif and god hates that
SCAMMER: Am telling the truth to you
SCAMMER: I don't know who is telling you all okay
ME: whne have you told me the truth, williams? when? when you told me your name was williams but in fact its Mike
ME: when you told me you didnt want my money, then you want 2,000
SCAMMER: Well, i change my name
ME: is it williams or mike? or is it Abdul the Nigerian Mugu Theif? what is it?
SCAMMER: I dont who you are telling about
ME: WHAT
ME: IS
ME: YOUR
ME: REAL
ME: NAME
ME: ?
SCAMMER: My name now is Williams
ME: you just said it was mike you dumbass
ME: if you really DO look like how you look on that website, send me a photo of yourself holding up a card saying "I AM NOT A SCAMMER, BELIEVE ME JEAN BUTLER" and i will believe in you and even send you the money
ME: but you wont be able to because you look nothing like the man in the photos
SCAMMER: I don,t understanding what is saying
SCAMMER: Okay
ME: its very simple
ME: I DONT BELIEVE THAT YOU LOOK LIKE THAT MODEL
ME: I THINK YOU STOLE THOSE PICTURES OFF THE INTERNET
SCAMMER: What you are saying to me now
ME: SO TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE NOT LYING
ME: SEND ME AP HOTO OF YOURSELF
ME: HOLDING UP A SIGN
ME: THAT SAYS "I AM NOT A SCAMMER, PLEASE BELIEVE ME JEAN BUTLER"
ME: ITS QUITE SIMPLE, IF YOU LOOK LIKE MIKE DOES
SCAMMER: I don't believe in what you are saying
SCAMMER: okay
ME: i dont believe in what YOU are saying
ME: you think about what ive said, mugu"! ive got to go! talk to you later, MAYBE
ME: bye
SCAMMER: <ding>
ME: are you there?

And so ends the scambait/revenge excercise. I dont expect to be able to get much else out of him. If you fancy your hand at scambaiting Williams Darren via Yahoo messenger, his ID is williams_darren4reallove008 . Make sure you have set up a female account, as we already know he doesnt care for homosexuality. If you have any fun out of him, or even trophies, please let me know, I'd love to be kept up to date on what he is up to.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 18

Isn't the Golden Gate bridge in San Francisco? Counts as California, I thought.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

Whoops, I didnt realise that, looks like my knowledge of american geography is as bad as the mugus!

Believe it or not, despite that big slapdown I gave him the other day, he still persists in emailing me to send him the money as if nothing has happened! Check it out...

Honey....I really miss you so here ..I think you remember that my birthday WAS Y-DAY?When i back to state i will celebrate it with you like i said in my last mail...

attn ....Honey now i would like you to send the money i requested via westernunion

Pls...Now that you say that you have the got some money ...And you know that i need money here ?

I need to pay the hotel bills...the hotel manager ask me today about the money but i told him that i waiting for some money when the came i will let him know and i collect it from my account so that you can send the money there so when you send it,he can remove the money i want to pay them ....

Honey the money i need now it up to EUR2,000 ...now i will want you to send the money to the hotel manager's information because the bank i used for my saving called me and told me i would not have an acces to my account now,that is the reason why i want you to send this via westernunion tommorrow unfaillenly okay,so here is the information to use in sending the money below
NAME=AKEEM-DICKSON
ADDRESS=LAGOS-NIGERIA
YOU CAN GIVE THEM ANY TEST QUESTION AND ANSWER OKAY HONEY AND I WILL ALSO XPECT THE CODE NUMBER[MTCN NUMBER IS REQUIRED]

Pls..send it tomorrow morning and let me know when you send the money..Okay

Let me here tommorow evening online ....

Honey...Try and send the money tomorrow morning...We need to discuss well ...

Yourlover,

Williams Darren

Methinks another slapping is in order... or maybe I can get a trophy picture or a safari out of him...? what do you think? I think this level of stupidity shouldnt go unpunished...[/u]

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

Time to try for a badly photoshopped trophy pic...

Dear Williams,

I cant believe that you are still asking me for money despite all I said to you the other day. Dont you realise that you have completly lost my trust by telling me such outragious lies? The only way you can get my trust back is to prove to me that you really do look like the man in the photos (Mike) so I need you to do the following:

Send me a high quality photo via email of you , holding up a sign that says:

"I AM NOT A SCAMMER, PLEASE BELIEVE ME JEAN BUTLER"

If you cannot do this simple task then I will assume that you have lied to me all along, that you have just used some model photos off that website and that you dont intend to marry me, then you will get NO money. Do this task for me, however, and you will have regained my trust, proved to me that you have not lied, and I will be happy to lend you the money.

Its up to you now.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 18

Hope you get it! Razz

Baiting Guru Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 5727

I hope you are sharing this with your sister in law. I have a mental image of the mugu sitting at his computer during the exchange, not exactly sure what to say next. Can we call that "stutter typing", or "styping" for short?

(Oh, and the Golden Gate Bridge is in San Francisco California. You were probably thinking of the Brooklyn Bridge, which is in New York. Next time got for the Arch, which is in St. Louis Missouri.)

Not quite a Newb Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 35

He sounds so pathetic! Boy, his grammar is horrible! I can now see the pattern of a scammer, just like my scammer boy, Raymond!

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 28

Just a quick update... been doing some low level baiting of him whenever I can be bothered. He refused to send me any more photos, and although I thought I was getting him to go on safari to Lagos airport, he now sends me this email saying he wont... the scum..!!!

Hello.....Jean ,

If you know that you are still comning to meet me here ....First do what i ask from you to unless if you come here i will not attend to you at the airport...Send the money then i can pay for the htel bill if not i dont want you here ...Okay

I just want you to believe in you brother your brother will do marriage with you ...

Bye ....Okay

I reply with:

I got your email and was greatly upset by it. You are telling me that if I was to come over without sending you money first you would leave me stranded at Lagos airport, where I could be robbed or raped or killed? You are NOT a loving man, in fact I think you are an evil man to say such a thing and that it is obvious that you only want my money. I think the reason that you wont meet me is because you do not look like the man in the photo. You are a nigerian man and the man in the photo is an american man. That is why you dont want me to come, so that I would learn the truth. If this is not the truth, then why wont you send me a photo of you holding up a piece of paper saying "I AM NOT A SCAMMER" then all this could be sorted out, I would trust you again and I wiould send you the money. If you cannot do this incredibly simple task then I am afraid that the wedding is off, and I will not send you a penny. Think about it.

I think this bait is winding down now... I dont think I can get any more photos off him or even a safari. I'd love to get a tattoo on him but I doubt it because he is using fake images from a model sight. Any suggestions on what to do now to cause him grief?
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