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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:21 am

I just spoke to my lad. He now wants to send two lads to come and get the money. Of course, I am fine with that but he is starting to whine about the expense of coming. I suspect that he is about to ask for money. I told him that we are running out of time and that things seem suspicious back at camp, like I am being watched. Hopefully, this will keep him from asking for any money.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:02 am

Dont appear too desperate or he will see that as a green light to demand money for travel.
Slap him if he starts that, query how serious he is and tell him you can always find someone else. Far be it from me to tell you how to run a bait of course, I cant get them to a MG office half the time. Very Happy

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:11 am

Start to get panicky and tell him to hurry up before things go pear shaped.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:11 am

I don't think he can expect you to find too many WU offices in an impenetrable forest. Very Happy

Master Baiter Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 140

meyer wrote:

Yeah, but the problem is that Kilimanjaro, although tough, is basically a simple walk up.

But you still have to be acclimatised and the cheaper more unscrupulous (sp?) guiding companies are well known for not giving their clients enough time for this. I'm guessing the lad would prefer the cheaper company too! Of course altiude sickness is a very very nasty ailment and not descending immediately could result in death.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:02 pm

Now the lad says that he is going to get loan to cover some of the expenses. If this is true, it sounds like he is spending a good percentage of his avilable cash on this. Very Happy

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:10 pm

Tell him to be sure to email you any receipts for out of pocket expenses and/or loans so you can be sure to reimburse him fully in due course.

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:58 pm

If your lad has a car to sell, I hear that Barrister Kuku may still need another one.. Very Happy

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:25 pm

There's definitely poetic justice in this. It's said that "you can't scam a scammer" but THAT certainly does not hold true in this case. Your lad seems to be doing just what many vics do in their quest for the grail. It sitll surprises me a little that he's not picking up on the similarities to his own scams. He has shown a little suspicion from time to time, but he wants to believe SOOO badly that he's willing to suspend disbelief. . .

Anyhow, you're continuing to do a great job of reeling him in. Here's hoping he can get that "little loan", (or not so little) to enable him to continue with the travel plans. I wonder how much he has spent so far what with visas, supplies, plane tickets, etc. Any idea?

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

Ask him if a bit (well okay, a lot) of gorilla scat will pose any problems regarding the negotiability of the bills...

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 19

@jose_cuervo,

If were getting the lads to go digging I know some fields in Angola that need turning over

There the ones identified by the red triangles with the deaths head on them Wink

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:02 pm

been away for 4 days, and wondered what was happening with the lads. Glad to see, its looking to be a go-er. Very Happy

Seems there have been a few suggestions for future safari's to the safari master........

Some realistic, some pie in the sky........ Shocked

Time for my tuppence worth........ Razz

How about a safari to somewhere quite accesible, but quite dangerous due to the abundant wildlife in Africa...... Evil or Very Mad

First thoughts are to be a corrupt game warden, and bury a trunkbox full of cash...... somewhere around namibia / s africa / zim should do the trick...... anywhere there is a good population of hippo's!!!!!

I quote (well plagerise from a website)

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The hippo, found today throughout sub-Saharan Africa, is considered by many experts, explorers and Africans to be the most dangerous animal in Africa

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The hippo is extremely aggressive, unpredictable and unafraid of humans, upsetting boats sometimes without provocation and chomping the occupants with its huge canine teeth and sharp incisors. Most human deaths occur when the victim gets between the hippo and deep water or between a mother and her calf. I've read descriptions of their ground-rumbling charges

Is it hippo breeding season, for I feel there is a huge pot of gold at the end of the rainbow created by Victoria falls!!!!! Very Happy

I would try this myself, however am still at the amusing photo / trying to get a carving stage of baiting...

On the political side, could be played as very rich, white farmer, escaping the Evil Evil or Very Mad

Mugabe........

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:47 am

@RC

Would that be the car that his nephew had in Sudan that got shot full of AK47 rounds? The Sudanese police must have returned it to the good Barrister Twisted Evil

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:34 pm

This guy is starting to piss me off. It was fine when only one lad was coming. Now that he wants to send two lads, he has to come up with twice the money, which seems to be a problem for him. At least he has not asked me for the money to get the lads there. Appearanly my back-story has stuck.

I think that he will eventually get enough money to send these guys, but I am growing impatient.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:01 pm

I just sent some additional information about GPS tracking to our lad. Check out these photos. These are different examples of how you can track people or things using your web browser. This would be fun as hell if I could get this, or any other lad to agree to this.

The first four links are screen shots that we potentially could all see if a lad were carrying around one of these transmitters. One of them actually has a camera built into it! Very Happy

We could actually be WITH him while he travels.

http://www.gpsflight.com/Main/users/Images/balloonblackrock-gps-teamBIG.jpg
http://www.gpsflight.com/Main/users/Images/both.jpg
http://www.gpsflight.com/Main/users/Images/yakima_BIG.jpg
http://www.gpsflight.com/Main/users/Images/bigscreen.jpg

This link is for all of the example's of this company's products.
http://www.gpsflight.com/Main/examples2.htm

I have already written to them for information about whether or not this will work in central Africa.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:02 pm

The lads are coming tomorrow! What a relief too. I was starting to think that this was never going to happen.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:29 pm

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I would hate to hand it over to the wrong people by accident.

Yes, I'm sure that would be terrible Laughing

Let the misery begin!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:43 pm

You really need that GPS tracking system. Any word back on whether or not it will work in central Africa?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:00 pm

The company wrote back and said that their stuff would not really work well there. Understand that this company makes stuff that allows for real-time tracking of a transmitter. The lads would have to carry this transmitter with them. For this bait, I doubt that this will happen, mostly because I have not found a source yet that would be able to handle it. I am sure that there is a company out there somewhere that could though. I just have not found it yet.

I want these guys to go digging out in the rainforest. They can easily get a GPS locator. Given the trouble that these guys had raising the money just to get to Uganda, going out and buying a $400-$600 locator might prove to be out of their price range.

Long term, I would LOVE to have a bait where their was reat-time tracking of a lad. I cannot imagine a better bait than that. I am not sure how to put it all together yet, but that would rock.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:50 pm

Well, it does look like the lads are either already on their way or about to leave. How long do you think you can keep them wandering around out there? Do you have any definite plans for that or are you going to improvise? Do you think you can get them to go somewhere else? They might be willing to travel to someplace close, but I doubt they will have the resources or the willingness to get very far. What's your plan for the end-game? Are you going to let them know they've been had? Are you going to try to play the delegates off against the stay-at-home lad? THAT could have some interesting possibilities! (I'm not trying to give you advice, cuz you certainly don't need that, but just letting my mind wander a little to the various possibilities.)

Also, have you heard any more from your good friend Coffee Cocoa? I wonder if you could pose as a representative of somewhere official and email him to see if he's found the lost boys. (Reminds me of Peter Pan.)
Onward and upward!!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 14

cant wat to see this Razz

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:03 pm

@pug

I really sort of make things up as I go but once they get there, they will start to see that Mr. Fitzwell has a much darker, somewhat crazier, side to him. Perhaps it's the heat, perhaps it's malaria, perhaps it's all the stress he is under, etc... But Mr. Fitzwell is going to slowly become a very scary person, yet remain devoted to his friends from South Africa.

Obviously, Mr. Fitzwell will not be meeting them in Kabale. I suppose that the camp will be moving the very same day the lads arrive in Kabale. The ideal situation would be to get the lads to do some digging. This is probably going to be pretty hard to get them to do this since they won't know where to dig without GPS.

If they do not go for the GPS thing (and they probably will not since they have never responded to any of my references to it), perhaps a second character, will dig up the money. If this happens, they will have to make arrangements to meet the second character in another location. I am sort of leaning towards the second character being Richard Fitzwell, Robert's twin brother who has fled from Kenyan authorities into Uganda.

On the topic of Koffi Kuku, there has been no contact from him or his "boys". Even the phone numbers that I had are now no longer in service.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:40 pm

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Perhaps it's the heat, perhaps it's malaria, perhaps it's all the stress he is under, etc... But Mr. Fitzwell is going to slowly become a very scary person, yet remain devoted to his friends from South Africa.

Kind of like Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now?

419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

valerie singleton wrote:

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Perhaps it's the heat, perhaps it's malaria, perhaps it's all the stress he is under, etc... But Mr. Fitzwell is going to slowly become a very scary person, yet remain devoted to his friends from South Africa.

Kind of like Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now?

The horror....the horrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Laughing

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:20 pm

Yes just like that.
He could sacrifice some of his team for soup and brainwash the rest into some kind of orgiastic ritual.
Twisted Evil

This is the end, my only friend the end, etc. Twisted Evil

Edit: YW, tell them they must bring a goat with them for sacrifice.

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