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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:46 am |
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Here's an easy one for someone wanting to try a romance bait.
Heck, I'll give you the whole group!
[email protected]
is this blonde lady.
[email protected] will give you this skinny lady.....
[email protected] will yield this lady......
And, of course, last, but certainly not the least.....these emails will give you Oksana....
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
All of these are pretty straight script scammers.
Send them a blind email like
"Hi, this is Adolph from the dating site. You wanted my email address.
Hope to hear from you."
and they'll crank the script up.
You don't need to get too involved in writing these ladies.
I just forward the letters they send back to them.
The IP in the email headers should all point to a German/Iran satellite.
They were using Mari El dialup, but I guess business has been good. |
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ocean
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Santa Rosita
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Posted:
Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:33 pm |
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I'll drop Marina a letter.
I am amazed how easily it seems you guys find these. |
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Vanndickey
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Iapetus
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:37 pm |
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Stepan is the master!!
I have a few you guys can try too.....
Anastaysia= [email protected]
I have had her on the hook for well over 3 months now, the pictures don't stop!!!
Also on the line for months...
Evgeniya= [email protected]
I've posted both of their pics in other threads here...... |
_________________ "you are the greatest lair I have ever come in contact with "- Kamara Ali
"Infact you are a deciet to the Americans.No appology to that ok"-Barrister Greg Lowe
"You will meet death soon,just watch out"-Zumla Thaba
"EAT A DICK AND DIE SLOW"-Mrs. Mary Collins Brown
x5 |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Posted:
Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:42 pm |
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They find you!
If you want to be bitten my a mosquito, just stand around in a swamp. They'll find you! |
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chatterbot
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
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Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:37 am |
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This newbie finally got Marina off script!
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I to not understand that you wanted to tell in a word, "Less Filling! Tastes Great!" |
I assured my dove Marina that it's a term of affection in the US. It means she's very special.
I'm guessing that they make heavy use of babelfish. |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:29 pm |
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This 'batch' are products of the same person, or group. The same person may be at the controls of all the letters.
They USED to be VERY easy to bait, and all you had to do to keep the letters coming was forward each letter they send to you, back to them.
They recently caught on to this technique, and cut me off on all accounts.
I think now they're looking at the incoming letters a little. You may get more answers than before. Make them work. Oksana would sometimes sneak an anwser to one of your questions, maybe 3 letters later, buried in the text.
Anyway. Try to bait them with as little effort at possible. The trick is to get them to waste the time, more time. If they have to start manually reading each incoming letter, that is cool!! |
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chatterbot
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
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Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:15 am |
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I just put together a set of replies (mostly surreal) at the beginning of the bait. Then it's just cut and paste, with a small amount of editing. Yes, it's script vs. script time.
When do the WU requests come? Marina my dove has told me that she likes reading, staring into the distance and working with kids as a psychiatrist. She wants to know about my family, but doesn't want to pry.
I haven't read many dating scam baits. What are the standard time wasting modalities? (I'm guessing stupid questions and money waiving.) |
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The Dude
Master Baiter
Joined: 02 Apr 2006
Posts: 113
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Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:37 am |
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You can also just go into any number of yahoo chat rooms on any given evening and get inundated with offers. |
_________________ "Everything's a fucking travesty with you, man!"
Do you Yahoo? Not anymore you don't. |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:00 pm |
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Usually there's not much you can do to them until 'money time'. Then you can try for nude or sign pictures, a passport or visa scan, sometimes a phone call. Once they go off script I like to ask them some detailed sex questions. That can yield some interesting quotes!
In the end a couple of trips to western union are in order.
Be sure to publish a report on the bait, here, and at russian detective.
The publicity annoys the scammers and you may help a potential victim. |
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PerryScope
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 78
Location: Trying to NOT listen to the Pirate Song ! Yah Harr Fiddle De Dee
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Mon May 01, 2006 12:19 pm |
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@vanndickey,
Hmm ,
Yep both are still around , got some poor Pics off both of them yesterday |
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Vanndickey
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Iapetus
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Mon May 01, 2006 5:51 pm |
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^^^ I hope you have some time with those two ladies. I have had both of them on the hook for well over 4 months now.
Anastaysia won't do a signature or customized photo for at least the first 2-3 months.
Evgeniya is very easy to get off script and you can get a trophy from her relatively easy. Don't ask for a nude from her she'll get really pissy and might drop you. I had to darn near beg her to rekindle her "love" for me. |
_________________ "you are the greatest lair I have ever come in contact with "- Kamara Ali
"Infact you are a deciet to the Americans.No appology to that ok"-Barrister Greg Lowe
"You will meet death soon,just watch out"-Zumla Thaba
"EAT A DICK AND DIE SLOW"-Mrs. Mary Collins Brown
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ocean
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Santa Rosita
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:32 am |
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how could you not fall in love with Marina?
how did she know I love dalmations?
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Last edited by ocean on Sat May 06, 2006 4:17 am; edited 2 times in total |
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chatterbot
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:53 am |
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I thought I had twigged darling M@r1n@, but luv conquors all and it turns out she was busy at work (after about 5 days of no replies). Apparently one of her young charges were in organism.
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Dear mine ChatterbotYouGod. I am in a hurry to write to you that I very strongly missed " " to you and
I bring to you the apologies because so long to not write to you. But I was very much
occupied at work you know one of girls am very sick at her very difficult problems with
health, she in an organism does not have not enough blood or she had infection (yeah, one or the other), and we had
to conduct her in city of Moscow and all our workers went to hand over blood only to keep
to her life. She is in very heavy condition to her only 5 years and all of us very much
experience for her because we had to leave her in that city. That is very a pity to me
that with her there were such problems but we did not notice earlier that she badly feels
herself also she never complained that at her that hurts, whether and after that case we
have decided to carry out medical survey of all children to check up all at them normally. |
I followed up with some of my meaningless poetry (found via the surreal poetry generator).
Should I try to put her in touch with the elders of my church? Or do Vlads twig too easily? Maybe I should just stick to dumb questions that I "must" know.
(PS: Thnx for the reply Stepen.)
PPS: Up to about 16 pics now, but I haven't rcvd the preceding one yet. |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Sat May 06, 2006 11:52 am |
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You can always try to get them 'off script'. This group may be paying a little more attention to the letters recently, but I doubt they'll stray from the scripts unless they have to.
I'm guessing the time frame for 'start to money letter' for this group is 3 weeks to 2 months.
As they say in many disclaimers, 'Your Results may vary!'
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miyu
419Eater is my life
Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 356
Location: Cyberia
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Sat May 06, 2006 1:48 pm |
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Oh no, Marina wants to know where I found her profile on the internet! Ummm....I guess it was somewhere...or other. |
_________________ [08:08] pastor_jerry45: b4 u try anything on me....i will destroy, i will make ur life impossible (Yim "romance" scammer)
PA writes: I wouldn't mind if you locate the House in Tokyo or Osaka, as long as it is good and very close to where you stay, so that we can always keep in close touch with eash other. (Oh, warm and fuzzy feeling).
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Sat May 06, 2006 2:32 pm |
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Aussiedate.com Datingground.com or just do a search for Marina123 on google, and see which dating sites she's on currently, that's her.
MANY of the marina123's are her.
Just checked, they may be changing her name.
Did see her as Marina650 on one site |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Sat May 06, 2006 9:58 pm |
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Not sure where this came from, just popped up in one of my mailboxes.
Got a pretty generic intro letter from her, no pictures.
It may be a retry from an old scammer, with a new persona.
DId a google of the email address, NADA.
[email protected]
Give it a shot..... |
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chatterbot
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
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Sun May 07, 2006 2:58 am |
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miyu wrote: |
Oh no, Marina wants to know where I found her profile on the internet! Ummm....I guess it was somewhere...or other. |
I found her, "At the dating site". When she asked for my picture, I responded that I was glad that she liked it.
Marina doesn't pay close attention to my emails. Alas, at this stage I have to say the same.
(SF: 'Tanks!) |
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ocean
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Santa Rosita
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Wed May 10, 2006 2:04 am |
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The latest e-mail from Marina says that her parents died in a landslide and that she was raised in an orphanage. just wondering what she'll tell me next?
trying to send her an e-card full of hugs and kisses. |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Wed May 10, 2006 10:11 am |
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Two of the girls in this group claim to be orphans, a third claims to work in an orphanage. I've been calling them the 'orphan group'.
How creative!
I think its Marina who sends out a later letter 'you not afraid to be in love with orphan? Or something lilke that.
These ladies are trying to push the 'sweet' and 'decent and sociable' buttons, rather than the 'hot and sexy' ones! |
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ironman
419Eater is my life
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 352
Location: Enjoying the view.
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Wed May 10, 2006 1:49 pm |
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I baited Marina for 5 emails exchanges before she dropped me.
I did not bother reading any of her garbage, and only responded back cutting and pasting paragraphs from the automatic complaint generator. I guess there is only so much a scammer can take.
I miss getting her pictures. |
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chatterbot
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 43
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Thu May 11, 2006 5:46 am |
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Keep sending Marina desparate and forlorn letters. She's likely to write back after a while. You don't have to be creative.
She dropped me for about 5 days, then gave me a story about one of her charges needing medical treatment in Moscow and how it upset her.
Don't worry, she soon gets over it after she stares at bridges and stars for a while.
Not reading her garbage is recommended. That's ok, they apparently only skim my stuff as well.
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I wonder whether the sweet and decent shtick indicates that the Lads haven't any nude pics of the gals. |
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ocean
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Santa Rosita
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Thu May 11, 2006 10:55 pm |
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I just received another letter with pictures from Marina, they are the ones where she is dressed in what looks like a yellow nightgown or dress. I have not gotten the one where is is holding a stuffed animal.
I told her that I was an orphan as well. I don't think she read it since she said that I have yet to talk about my family. |
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ironman
419Eater is my life
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 352
Location: Enjoying the view.
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Fri May 12, 2006 2:55 am |
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stephen,
How are you getting their ip if they are using gmail? |
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Stepan Fetchit
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1977
Location: Anywhere but squaresville, man
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Fri May 12, 2006 5:10 am |
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You can still get a country of origin. Marina and her cohorts have been using the Fokus Satcomm satellite, which is a german owned company with an earth station in iran. You can't track them beyond that, but they are in Mari El. |
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