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Eight
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Shiver has received a plea from the owner of www.weneedyounow.com which is a genuine site seeking donations. The site was recently subjected to an attack by someone who clearly thought this was a fake site. The information supplied included sufficient personal details to persuade us that the site is legitimate. Please do not attempt to get it shut down or take any other action against it.

As to the purpose of the site:
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My name is ... My partner ... has advanced liver cancer and we need �40000 for a drug called Avastin, which is not yet available on the NHS. It works with standard chemotherapy to make the treatment more effective.

Obviously we are not Richard Branson or the like, so I have set up a fundraising website at www.weneedyounow.com ... I've spread the word of the site around by emailing friends, putting it on various messageboards ... The site has been incredibly successful; we have raised over �10000 since the site went live on Wednesday ... Yesterday, our site was brought to its knees by an email-bombing attack .... I managed to pull a few tricks to stop it from happening again. However, it got me worried. I realise that my site must look a bit iffy. Therefore it is probably only a matter of time before someone tries again, either by the same method or by a denial of service attack. We were offline yesterday for four hours and I estimate that it cost us around �400 in donations.

The reason I am emailing you is this - if my site is mentioned on your forums, could you or one of your team of mods put in a good word for me please, and let folk know it's a genuine case?

If you want to check me out, please feel free ....

<snip of personal info to verify identity>

After the events of yesterday, I've become very nervous that our site will be attacked again by a well-meaning "scam-buster" and I thought I should take steps to avoid this.


De-stickied. Seems to be an attack site now. 07Jan2010 -luckey

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Bumping this.

I have been keeping an eye on the news section on David's site, and the donations are slowing down after the initial flurry. Sad If anyone feels able to make even the smallest donation, or to post a link to his site at other places they go to help spread the word, I am sure it would be appreciated. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

From their news page:

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3rd March : 23:55

We're now up to over �7500 and things are really looking up. Several things have happened today - I'll start with the negative.

It had to happen at some point - some bloke calling himself the Scam Terminator emailed me to say that I was "a f**king liar" a "piece of sh*t" and that I deserved to die. Apparently "no one gives a sh*t" about me or my "imaginary family". He advised me to change my address as he is going to "break every bone" in my face. What a nice man.


Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Eight, can we get an email addy for scam terminator from them, just so we can tell him a few home truths?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He's a real piece of shit, ain't he? Evil or Very Mad I've emailed Dave to ask for the addy and his okay to go ahead and kick his arse. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cheers Eight, it's probably a throw away addy anyway, but he probably still checks it. How about if 419eater gave Dave permission to say his site has been checked out by www.419eater.com and it is a legitimate site, he can stick that on his home page? Might deter others from messing his site up!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I like that idea, SP. Very Happy I'll get back to you once I've checked with Shiver and the gang.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quick Google on Scam Terminator gives:-
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/scamterminator/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SP, you have a PM with two of the email addresses used. Enjoy! Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am sure the Terminator will retreat the moment they realise it was a fund-raising effort. They really should have checked a little more that it was fraudulent and that script was awful.

My mother died of the same condition.

The drug they talk about is a member of a series of agents that attempt to restrict blood supply to tumour masses. Their names commonly end with "statin", or similar. The NHS always seems to be behind the Americans in these treatments, and even if it is approved here, they will talk of the up-front cost of it as a reason not to give it. We see that in the press right now with other tumour treatments.

I took my mother to Mexico in the end, to someone that was willing to try to slow it, and they didn't want paid by Western Union. A dedicated cancer hospital that knew the enemy, and it cost less than the efforts of the NHS, who did very little indeed, and I paid my taxes throughout, before, and since.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller wrote:
How about if 419eater gave Dave permission to say his site has been checked out by www.419eater.com and it is a legitimate site, he can stick that on his home page? Might deter others from messing his site up!


A suggested text went to Dave Woodley, and he's emailed me back to say thanks to the team, which really means you, SP. Smile

His latest news posting:

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Lastly, the site has been listed on a few new sites and forums today. As is to be expected, there are always some who are sceptical as to how genuine we are and whether this is all one big scam. I would normally get on these different message-boards and fight our corner, but to be honest I haven't got any energy left. I'm a bit fed up with battling to prove ourselves. The fabulous guys at 419Eater (a site specialising in internet scams) have given me a "seal of approval" which I'm going to put on the site tomorrow night. Also, we've been checked out by so many different administrators of sites, people have phoned our school, I've sent scans of letters and forms etc. I think I've done all I can to prove our case. If you don't believe me after all that, then there's not much else I can give you, apart from invite you round the house to watch Su's hair falling out.


Oh, and they have hit the halfway mark in their appeal for donations. If anyone can post a link at other sites, I am sure it would be appreciated and would help get them to their target. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks to Eight and the eater admin team for doing that Thumbs up

Nice too see they have hit �20,000 already, hope they hit the full amount and more soon.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dave has posted the text on his site, and you can find it via the "Is this a scam?" link on the front page. I really hope it helps, and if it does, it's down to SP. Good work, mate. Very Happy clapping


The appeal has now raised just over �24K, so they're doing okay, but need more. Please please do post about it on other sites you go to, guys. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love that rosette on their "is this a scam" page, nice touch:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eatyo has pointed me to this story about the site - http://www.p2pnet.net/story/8241

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for that, noxy. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

*Bump*
They hit �30,000 Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, I sent in a donation. I hope they get enough left over to celebrate.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Stickymatized to ensure it is seen by all. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scam Patroller,
Did you get any response from Terminator?
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

�40739

looks like they did it - note date was may 8, 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

bump - Donations now at �41,112 Very Happy they were at �24k on Mar 18, superb stuff.

I don't think the aa419 database allows legitimate entries, but it does in the forums. when aa419 is up again we could post an extra 'seal of approval' (if you like) and show this as a real website by changing its 'state' to legitimate.
he could then link to that forum topic on his website.
just a suggestion for David ( iknow you suggested to post it everywhere Eight but I can't check on aa419 to see if its already posted)

nice work SP and all Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tommy flew off to Disneyland yesterday...so mission accomplished. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^^ Tommy is not who was on the original site, the original one was a couple called Dave and Su, Dave set up the site to raise funds for Su's treatment, Su had cancer if I remember correctly, they are now raising money for Tommy, and as they have reached their taget, I assume a new needy person will be on there soon, a very worthwhile website Thumbs up

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wasn't aware it was a rolling project...my mistake, I'll restickify.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, Dave and Su keep the site running with updates and put Tommy's story up to help raise the money to send him to Disney World. I've no doubt that they will go on to help someone else soon. Definitely a top site. Thumbs up

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