The story of Victor

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:13 pm

Good day fellow scam baiters,

It is with a little bit of pride that I present to you the story of Viktor. After I tried myself on scam baiting last year and then suddenly lost the time for it, I decided to try to pick it up again this year. So during my vacation back in April I took the opportunity and invested some time to find myself a lad. And I got lucky. This story won´t be about lengthily safaris or epic trophies. This is just the simple story of a lad wasting at least some time on a small baiter like myself. Its a bit like the „every dollar counts“ kind of thing. I think even the smallest effort counts.

I got his email address of my office account. Unfortunately I do not have his initial email anymore. I will put my own email in blue and Viktors emails in red. So after I received his first mail on my office account, I decided to answer to it from my baiter persona. So I opened up with:

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Dear Viktor,

I received your first email and would be very glad to assist you with this project. I am not quite sure what you expect of me, so please enlight me.

Lets get this Business on the way.

Blessed greetings from

Volker
Berlin, Germany

Just a day later I got his reply. This rather lazy lad just sends a PDF file containing all his babble.

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His email:

Attn: Volker Lehmann,
View Attachment File, with procedure to get the USD450 Million to Your Account. Please fill the attached (Application Form and Agreement of Co-Operation) Sign and return it immediately, to enable us proceed with the transfer.
Mr. Viktor B

And the content of his PDF:
RE: ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF USD$450 MILLION.

Dear Volker,
I really appreciate your immediate response as this transaction demands and I shall revalidate and notarize all the necessary documents that will protect you from any breach of the law. And I promise to must be honest with you from the beginning to the end of this transaction.
I will like you to forward me your private telephone and fax number, and also a copy of your International passport or Drivers License to obtain Certificate of Inheritance in your name. I am guaranteeing you that this transaction is 100% risk free for both of us because all the documents I will obtain are legitimate documents so I don't want you to entertain any iota of fear. I will use my power and connection to get all the legal documents needed on your name which will enable the bank to make the transfer since you are the next of kin.
Please kindly let me know if you can handle this transaction before I proceed further with you. And also you will help me to bear the cost of ****Sworn Affidavits of claims *****& Authorization from the South Africa Ministry of Justice, *****Anti Money Laundering Certification, *****Drug Law Clearance Certification, ****Approval Documents From the Department of Finance, *****. This will enable the transferring bank to legally carry out their financial services on your behalf as the Beneficiary that will cost USD$14,190.00.
I am really concern about this deal if you able to handle this transaction and part payment of $5,900,from the total cost of USD$14,190.00 expenses to obtain required documents on your name to remit the funds to pacified bank account of your choice without any problems with International Monetary Authority. I can handle the balance as long as you can handle your side.
Please understand the status of this transaction; you have to pay the part payment of $5,900 from the total charges to get every transfer document on your name to enable the bank legally transfer the fund to your nominated bank account. I will handle the balance
Bank Details To Pay The Part Payment of USD$5, 900.00 Dollars Below. Bank Name: Bidvest Bank Account No: 3582082732001 Swift Code: RNNSZAJJ.
Beneficiary Name: Matshepo Dineo Modise. Address: #72 Ben-more Road Sandton. Johannesburg South Africa.
Fax the payment slip to fax no: +27-86-515-4728. Or you send it through email attachment.
Furthermore, I would like to mention to you that we split the money equally and jointly invest it on any lucrative investment as soon as the transaction is successful as your remuneration for been an active partner in this transaction once the money is confirmed in your designated Bank account.
You are also require to complete the attached Documents (Next of Kin Application Form) and return immediately for observation, approval prior complete DD (Due Diligence)
Please get back to me soonest.
Regards, Mr. Viktor B. Direct No: +27-72-560-5688. Fax: +27-86-515-4728.

He thinks he can get the quick money out of me. I wonder, what ever happened to the „foreplay“ with those guys?
After that I decided to put him on pause. I hate it when lads are stupid and can´t even write a proper email. Although I had a lot to do at work and at home, so I did not have the time to deal with him anyway. But after almost a month I decided to resurrect my conversation with him. So I wrote him a quick mail:

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My dear Victor,

please forgive my rather later reply. Shortly after our inital conversation I left for a well earned vacation and left my smartphone at home. I really like to get away from civilisation and work while on vacation. I had a wonderful time and feel pretty refreshed and recharged again.

If you are still up to it and if you had not found somebody to replace me, I am still interested in having this deal for that money with you. Please let me know how to proceed.

With best regards

Volker Lehmann
Berlin - Germany

After that he gets all chatty and buddy-ish. I do not have to wait long for his reply:

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Dear My Good Friend, Volker,

Your email was received and noted the content, yes i was very worried why you keep silent for this long time, but now i receive your responds, i am very happy to hear that you enjoyed your vacation and hope we can get more vacation hence this deal is done.

Download attachment the same procedure i have sent to you before, My good friend, because i believed in your capability of doing this interesting deal with me, i have obtain the Inheritance Document transferring the fund to your name as the new beneficiary, Next of Kin, all attached.

Finally, all you have to do now and urgent is to fill the application form and transfer the $5,900 your part payment for obtaining all documents in the attachment in your name that will enable the fund release to you with immediate effect. Waiting to receive the application form and the payment slip.

Please send me your direct telephone number.
Rgards,
Mr. Viktor

He did send along some of the usual PDF files. You can find the (later filled) samples here:

After that I decided to keep him waiting for a while. I wanted to see how patience this lad is. As it turned out, he has no patience at all. Not even eight hours later I received the following:

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Hello my friend Volker,
How are you this morning? hope fine i guess.
I hope you receive my email i sent to you. waiting for your urgent responds with details.
Regards,
Viktor B

I really hate being pushed, so I decided to keep him waiting. And right out of his script, he begins to question my trustworthiness:

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Why are you no longer responding? can i still trust you? you did not even respond to me that you have receive my respond with document.

I decided to finally answer him, after all, this has to go on at some point:

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My dear Viktor,

keep your calm and do not loose your nerve. As an owner of several rather huge companies I am a rather busy man. You can trust that I will give your little deal the necessary attention whenever I find the time. Currently my assistant (don´t worry, she is trustworthy beyond any doubt and helped me with several transactions) is checking and preparing your documents. Once she is done, I will return them to you immediately.
Furthermore you will agree that a matter of such importance and delicassy can´t be pushed or rushed. Not to mention the security aspect of this transaction. None of us would like to get caught by the authorities with our fingers in the cookie jar.

I will get back to you once the documents are done.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

And of course his trust in me was completely restored, lucky me.

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Dear Volker,
Thanks for your responds, I can now trust your ability to complete this transaction with out any problem.
Sir i wait to hear from you as soon as possible.
Regards,
Viktor B.

So it is time to give him some good news

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My dear Viktor,

a blessed day and a good morning to you.

I have some great news regarding our business. My assistant finally found the time to prepare your documents. Please find them attached. I am so glad she handles such things for me, I do not know what I would do without her. All these paperwork is giving me headaches.

How do we proceed from here?

By the way, since we are together in such an important business, tell me a bit about yourself. I want to get to know the man behind the emails. What is your vita, where have you been, which career path did you choose? Are you married? Maybe with children? Do you have grandchildren already? Are you a man of god?

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

As I said before, he is quite lazy. He does not care for my questions very much. But he cares about the payment of his fees very much. So he did send me the following and attaches some fake ID JPGs. I reported the bank account to Bidvest Bank, but the nice lady from Forensics and Security did tell me there was no account or name with the provided details in their database. She furthermore asked for all correspondence with Viktor and I happily provided my email collection. Unfortunately I haven´t heard from her back ever since (but thats another story). My lad was so anxious for the money he did send two emails, just seconds apart (I suspect he is confusing my account with some of his other victims).

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Dear Friend, Volker,
Sir all you have to do now is to send the payments to enable us proceed. I was married but my wife the years ago, left me with 3 children 2 boys and one girl and i am ready to lay my life for them.
FIND ATTACHMENT OF MY IDENTITY.
Waiting for the payment slip.
Bank Details To Pay The Part Payment of USD$5, 900.00 Dollars Below.
Bank Name: Bidvest Bank
Account No: 3582082732001
Swift Code: RNNSZAJJ.
Beneficiary Name: Matshepo Dineo Modise.
Address: #72 Ben-more Road Sandton. Johannesburg South Africa.
Fax the payment slip to fax no: +27-86-515-4728. Or you send it through email attachment.
Regards,
Mr. Viktor B.

Send email simply states:

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Waiting for the payment slip

In the meantime I am trying to get some small talk out of the guy.

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My dear Viktor,

so sorry to hear that your wife passed away. How old are your children? Maybe after our buisness is done and the funds are transferred you and your kids can come over to Europe and visit me at my villa. Or maybe we take a trip to one of my holiday houses together. How does the Cayman Islands sound to you? I own a very nice house there, one of the perks of owning a company. And while we are there we could look for some suiteable investments for our newly found money. I know some very trustworthy bankers on the Cayman Islands, with whom I have been doing business for almost three decades now. I am pretty sure they can help us with some of our investments. Please let me have your thoughsts on this.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

All over suddens the gets a bit chatty. And the documents prepared by my dear assistant seem to be incomplete. But who cares about correct paperwork on such an important transaction, right?

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Dear Friend, Volker ,

Thanks for your urgent responds and your sympathy, My first son is now 18 yrs old, my second son is 15 yrs old and my only girl, she is my Angel and she is now 11 yrs old.

Thanks for your offer and yes i will not waste time to show my kids around Europe and visit your villa. i will even relocate my kids to Europe with the help of your invitation. And as case maybe i may quit my job and relocate to Europe and Invest my share over there. my kids love Europe.

But if you preferred Cayman Islands and is a safe place to be, then i love it, you know how things work over there than i do, so you are in a better position to choose.

I am happy you know some trustworthy bankers on the Cayman Islands, hence the fund transfer into your account, then we have no problem over some suitable investment since you know the bankers very well.

Finally please you have to keep every thing confidential till the fund get into your bank account. I have forwarded your filled application form to the paying bank and we must obtain every documents in your name to enable the file for the release of the fund into your bank account. Again you didn't fill in your name and sign the agreement. But is okay.
Waiting to hear from you with the slip.
Regards,
Vistor B

Shortly after I received this email I stumbled upon the SecurePTS website some fellow baiter did set up. I loved the idea of Victor filling out all those forms. As it will turn out later, he is quite lazy. So I asked him to get his payment cleared:

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My dear Viktor,

my assistant had set up the documents. I will let her know that she screwed that one up for good and transmit the missing documents as soon as humanily possible.

In the meantime I am setting up your bank transfer. Since 9/11 Germany has implemented very strict laws against funding terrorist. Since we are talking a considerable amount of money, I need to make sure that you are not in a terrorist group. I am abided by law to do so. I have been working with a service provider who is specialising in such checks. So please go to http://www.thespts.ru/login.php and use the following details:

User: l_hm_nn
Passwort: dearvolker
Senders Email: [email protected]

After your login, please fill out the forms. This is just routine, but will enable the automated wire transfer to your nominated bank account. Let me be perfectly clear on this point: I trust you and I sincerely belive you are man of honor. You have nothing to fear from this check. But without it not one single Euro will leave one of my bank accounts. Once you completed the check, the transaction will take place automatically. I will receive a payment slip which I will then forward to you. Everything is set up, but pending you filling out the forms.

If you have any questions, please feel free to get back to me. Looking forward to finalise this business.

With best regards

Volker Lehmann
Berlin - Germany

P.S.: By the way, it is a great idea to relocate to Europe. I will glady help you with the neccessary once our transaction is done.

I did mention he is one lazy bastard, right? Once you ask him to do something, he gets all dumb and whiny .

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Attn: Volker ,
Why don't you fill the form for me on my behalf. You asking me to go into a site and fill form before you can make a transfer, then send the payment via money gram or western union.what about me that will allow 450m into your account, does that make you a terrorist? I don't even know whom i am dealing with, you are refusing to send me your identity, even your phone number you refuse to send, the form you fill is all wrong, not printed, the number you gave into form in totally a wrong a number longer than German numbers. I don't know what you are up-to, but please this is not a joke or a child play. i have other people who are also interested to do this deal with me please i am begging you to stop what ever bad intention you have with regard of this deal.
This is the only opportunity that i have to make a great future for my children, so i rather play with my life than to play with this transaction.
I will never go into any site and fill form that is how ISIS lay people into joining the terror group. You are making me scared right now and i don't think it will be the right thing to trust you or not.
You have to fill the form your self and send the payment. anyway is up to you.
Let me tell you some thing, i have been careful with this transaction ever since, and i have meet with bad people, good people, even those who wanted to kill me to take over.
Or you may be a hacker trying to hack into my account. my brother stop oooooooooooh
Regards,
Viktor B.

ISIS is recruiting people over websites? I should fill out the forms? My phone number is wrong? Seriously? At that point I got pretty angry, or at least my character did. I got further with him then I ever expected.He got a lengthily reply from Volker and I gave him a piece of my mind. By the way: I provided him with a telephone sex hotline as my personal number and just added my country dialing code. He has never mentioned that he tried to call me, but I would love him to try. Along with my mail I send him on of the SecurePTS Western Union receipts.

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My dear Viktor,

I really do not know why I have to prove myself to you over and over again, but for the sake of this transaction I will do it one last time:

I really can´t understand why you are so upset all over sudden. I am trying to send you your money, but obviously you are not willing to fill out some forms in order to securely get it. Even if I would sent the money via Western Union, you still would have to undergo the check (see attached receipt where it shows the Secure Payment Transfer service fee. I just blacked out the payment information for data protection reasons). I did send money to Africa, especially Ghana, Kamerun, Nigeria and South Africa, dozends of times, but never did I met somebody who would deny the security check.

As for my „too long“ phone number: I am living in Berlin. Berlin is the capitol of Germany and currently has several million(!) citizens. To serve that many customers our phone companies have to come up with longer numbers. We have several major phone companies over here, like Telekom, Vodafone, Telefonica, Unitymedia and so on. You are an educated man, you can do the math. Roughly 3.5 million citizens in Berlin. Some of them have more than one phone number. Then there are businesses who often need more than one phone number. Beside those facts, what do you know about German phone numbers? You are living in South Africa, right?

As for my submitted documents, I am living completly paperless when it comes to any kind of business. Every single piece of paper I receive is scanned and stored digitally, so that I can access every single document from everywhere in the world where I have internet access. I do not even go to the toilet without my iPad (which is highly secured by the way). So as long as there is internet I can handle, read and work on every document if neccessary. And so does my assistant. She can sign documents digitally for me. It is called the 21st century. I do not know which computer system you are using, but it is a well known fact that there are some problems between iPads/Apple Mac and Windows computers. So maybe the fault is not on my side, but on yours. Anyway, as a matter of good faith from my side, I took it upon myself to fill out your forms and attached them again. So please find them attached again. Same goes for my identity card. If you are still not able to open them, maybe you should have your IT department run some maintenance on your computer.

Last, and most important: I can not fill out those security forms for you, the German authorities won´t allow that. They have very strict rules about this. If I am going to send out amounts over USD 5.000,00, I have to make sure I checked the person correclty. This is quite a normal thing over here.

And don´t be stupid about ISIS recruiting members via websites. ISIS may have propaganda websites, but you can not join a terror group by filling out some forms on the internet. What kind of idiocracy is this? People join ISIS for religious or ideologist reasons, not because they filled out some internet forms. They travel to war zones like Syria and Irak to join them, not a www. address.

You are stating that you will rather play with your life than with this transaction. So you are willing to risk your life, but not to enter a simple website? I call upon you to make good on your statement. Do you really want to risk your kids future over a security form? Are you mad or something? Thing about your little angel. Do you want her to life in Africa for the rest of her life? And her brothers too? Look at the news these days, people are fleeing from all over Africa to Europe. A lot of them drown in the ocean. Do you want this to be your kids future? Or do you want my help in relocating them to some nice place in Europe? Money can buy almost everything (you can trust me on this, I know quite a bit about it). Personal freedom and the freedom to chose where to live is one of the easier things to get (given you have the right contacts in Europe). I have been a business man for more than 30 years. You can believe me, as a government contractor I have a network of contacts in almost every German government department. So who can be of more help to you? Some guys you barely know and are sucking for the offered money or me, who is acustomed to handling big amounts of money and has contacts almost every where in the world? Think long and hard about it.

On the basis of our newly born friendship I will not hold your outragouges accusations (me being a hacker, a terrorist or even not being serious about this transaction) against you. If you do not want to proceed with this transaction, fine. Help yourself. So far I tried my best to help you. If you do not want this help it is fine with me. I have plenty to do over here, even though I already retired three years ago. But for your kids sake, are you really going to waste this opportunity? Are we in this together or not? Please let me know.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

Of course, the above is complete bullshit, but it was, against my expectations, good enough to keep him hungry for my money. The fake Western Union receipt did the rest. Now he is gunning for a Western Union:

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Dear Friend Volker Lehmann,
Thanks for your honest mail.
I am sorry i responded that way, but do not blamed me much as i have to say some words in other to know the kind of person that i am dealing with, and like you have said this is 21st century and every thing is been done easy and that is when there is trust and understanding.
Now i am committed to work with you 100% and yes we are in this together.
I am happy that you will be assisting me and my family to relocate to Europe.
I will go to the site and file in the form and i will appreciate it if you can send the payment via Western Union with same name: Matshepo Dineo Modise.
If i may ask, what type of lucrative business you know that will be profitable for me to invest in your country?
Waiting to hear from you.
Viktor B

And what do you know, he really tried to fill out some forms, but got lazy again. Those are the results of SecurePTS so far:

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l_hm_nn has loaded 43 pages of the form, has spent 4842.022 seconds answering questions (since July 23rd 2013) and has supplied the following answers (since July 23rd 2013):  Page 2: Q1: 02-06-2016, Q2: johannesburg, Q3: victor baloyi, Q4: cape town, Q5: south africa Page 3: Q1: R20,000, Q2: secetery, Q3: supperviser, Q4: victor baloyi, Q5: mike hugo Page 2: Q1: 02-06-2016, Q2: johannesburg, Q3: institute of financial markets, Q4: durban, Q5: South Africa Page 3: Q1: R100,000,00, Q2: director of operation, Q3: manager, Q4: institute of financial market, Q5: capitec bank Page 4: Q1: monica, Q2: three children, Q3: thabang, Q4: male, boy, Q5: 18 yrs old Page 5: Q1: mondeor primary, Q2: byanston academy, Q3: university, Q4: university of johannesburg, Q5: accountant Page 6: Q1: no pet, Q2: dogs, bird, Q3: michael, Q4: one yrs old, Q5: white or black Page 7: Q1: 102 square metres, Q2: four bed room, Q3: three bed room, Q4: five people, Q5: white and green Page 8: Q1: samsung, Q2: telefunken, Q3: hisense, Q4: yes i have a car, Q5: toyota camry Page 9: Q1: 40-inch, Q2: three yrs , Q3: plasma television, Q4: 34 channels, Q5: sports channels Page 10: Q1: 20 kilometers, Q2: company car, Q3: i have never, Q4: yes i have drive to work, Q5: yes i use bus to work some times Page 11: Q1: R12.00, Q2: R13.00, Q3: TOTAL gas station, Q4: shoprite, Q5: one dollar Page 12: Q1: yes i have travell by coach, Q2: yes i have travel by aeroplane, Q3: rwanda air line, Q4: not at all, Q5: zimbabwe Page 12: Q1: yes i have travell by coach, Q2: yes i have travel by aeroplane, Q3: rwanda air line, Q4: not at all, Q5: zimbabwe Page 1: Q1: gdfgdf, Q2: fegdfgdf, Q3: gdfgdfgdfg, Q4: dgsdffs, Q5: gdfgdgdfgsdg Page 1: Q1: rthrtyt, Q2: trtfghfg, Q3: dhghf, Q4: dhfddf, Q5: dfdfdfdfgfhfg Page 2: Q1: frerggh, Q2: rfgdgdgdsg, Q3: fgdfhdfgh, Q4: ghghfhfh, Q5: gfghfghfg Page 3: Q1: dsdasasa, Q2: dsdsds, Q3: dsdsdsds, Q4: fgfgfffffff, Q5: dfdfdgdg Page 4: Q1: fssddcsdfsdf, Q2: ddddddddd, Q3: dddddddddddddssf, Q4: vbxdgdfsdf, Q5: sdfsdfafasdfsd Page 5: Q1: wefefwefw, Q2: efgdfgfgfdg, Q3: fgdfgdfgdfrqw, Q4: gfdgfgdf, Q5: gsaerwerwer Page 6: Q1: fgnfghj, Q2: ghmgstzdrf, Q3: awAAdfgdfg, Q4: hdfhfhdfh, Q5: fhfghfh Page 7: Q1: rgbfhng, Q2: sdfggfgdf, Q3: gfgsd fsf, Q4: sdfs asff, Q5: dsfgfgfdgfgf Page 8: Q1: hggthfgh, Q2: adf jtyuyiuiuy, Q3: daeadad, Q4: dfsdfs, Q5: tertrtrdf Page 9: Q1: dfgdfgh, Q2: hfjdrgdfg, Q3: gsgdfgsfsf, Q4: dfdadffds, Q5: fsdfdsfsdf Page 1: Q1: victor baloyi, Q2: 47yrs, Q3: blacks, Q4: browns, Q5: i am male Page 2: Q1: 02/06/2016, Q2: johannesburg, Q3: institute of financial market, Q4: cape town, Q5: south africa Page 3: Q1: R100,000, Q2: director, Q3: managers, Q4: institude of financial market, Q5: capitec bank Page 4: Q1: monika, Q2: three children, Q3: thabang, Q4: male, boy, Q5: 18yrs old Page 5: Q1: madeoer pimary, Q2: madear secondry school, Q3: yes university, Q4: university of johannesburg, Q5: accountant Page 6: Q1: no i have no pet, Q2: dogs, birds, Q3: michael, Q4: one year old, Q5: whites and black Page 7: Q1: 12o square metres, Q2: four rooms, Q3: three bedroom, Q4: five people, Q5: greens 
IPs the lad has accessed this site from: 87.139.104.107, 69.31.50.161, 23.27.244.121, 41.246.83.3, 50.118.198.4, 216.185.39.122

Please note the rubbish he tried to put in the forms. Personally I think this is outrageous. I am still looking for an angle to rub his nose in it, but so far had no idea. But I will keep this in mind and get back to it later. In the meantime, Viktor whines about spending time on the forms:

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I have fill in the form and at the end it said it will decline. for over 8hrs.
now there is nothing i can do any more, ask me any question through email here i will answer you.and if that you can not proceed any more no problem.

For whatever reasons he did send me the link for SPTS (I did not put this email into here, it was just the link). Volker however is glad that Viktor came to his senses:

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My dear friend Viktor,

it is good to know that you have come to your senses. I would have hated it if our relationship would have ended over some forms on the internet. However I am quite disturbed over your last email? What exactly do you mean? Did you fill out the forms or not? If there is an error on the website, did you try to reload and fill it out again? Furthermore, you can always call their hotline. If you do, ask for Mr. David Miles and give him my regards. I have dealt with him many times in the past. He is a very capable and fine young man. I am sure he can help you out. Let me make it perfectly clear that without those forms, there will be no money transfer. Neither via bank transfer nor with Western Union. It will simply be blocked by the authorities and that would be the end of it.

As for your relocation, I got a great idea last night. How about you and your family come over for a short vacation? How does a week at my villa in Berlin sound? I got a bit ahead of myself and I am already looking up flights from Johannesburg to Berlin. You would travel on my expense of course. If you like, I could have your tickets waiting for you at O. R. Tambo airport. And while you are here, we can discuss business opportunities (for example real estates. There are a few towns in Germany where living space is very rare. You could invest in some nice rental buildings there. My real estate company could help you with that). Let me have your thoughts on the travel idea.
If you and your family are willing to join me for a week, please fill out the attached form. It will help me on my side to clear your visa´s. I would require one form for each person traveling with you. I will forward them to a buddy of mine at the consulate here in Berlin. He will clear those visa right away. I also attached a travel summary. If you are willing to go ahead with this, I will immediately book the tickets for you and have them deposited and O. R. Tambo airport.

What do you say my friend, will our families meet each other next week?

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

I was hoping to receive some filled forms from him, but unfortunately he pulled the lazy one on me again. At this point I thought that the bait has come to its end:

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I have deal with transfer from Germany from a client and no problem. i have fill the form and nothing happen i can not travel now until the fund get into your account.
Your procedure of making the payment is not working. don't worry your self any more, i will keep looking for some one, in fact i will contact mr. mohammed from saudi arabia who is willing to work with me smoothly with out any contradiction, i told him to hold on that i am in contact with you, but now that nothing will happen b/w both of us, then i have to contact him, i am sorry.
bye and God bless you. good luck next time.

A few minutes later he send me another email:

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I have attach what the site is saying, i have the number and to no Avie.

Any way thanks for making me a fool. and bye for ever until you send the payment slip. other please do not bother to contact me as i will be interested to read your mail.

So that´s it, at least I thought so. I tried to salvage this, but did not had any high hope to actually accomplish it. But I still want him to give me/the phone sex hotline a call. Unfortunately there is no way to find out if he actually did call or not.

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My dearest friend,

it really hurts me to read such words from you. And I also do not understand them. First of all your email had no attachment. So if you were to forward me anything, please try again.

Second, what do you mean of making you a fool? I swear to you by the life of children and grand children, I would never try to make a fool out of you. Why would I do such a thing? If you like you can give me a call and we can discuss this on the phone right now. But I have to warn you, I am almost deaf on both ears. I have only about 15% of my hearing left. You can reach me on the mentioned number. It is forwared to my mobile phone. Just listen through the usuall computer talk and it will connect to me at once.

Looking forward to hear your voice my friend.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

I figured I was done with him. Imagine my surprise when I receive the following:

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Attn: Volker,
If you want me to fill any form, send it to me through email attachment and i will fill them, ask me any question and i will answer you.
I have spend $200 with IT officer but and the end it will close and say thanks.
you can send money from one of your account from other country through online.
with out this money, i can not obtain all transfer documents both anti-terrorist certificate and drug law clearance documents.
It is your duty to find a way to send the payment over that is if you are really serous to do this deal with me.
Finally, i told Mr. Mohammed from Saudi Arabia to wait for my respond that if i did not hear from you by Monday next week, that will contact him to proceed with him, meaning if i did not get the payment slip by Monday i will then proceed to working with him. he has his own company and i have inform him about the payment involve in securing the vital documents in his name and he is ready to transfer the charges immediately with out complication. so is up to you. you sound like a good man and i will wish you are capable to handle this, because if you can not simply transfer common $5,900 then i wonder how you will be able to handle $450M. anyway is up to you. deadline is monday next week
Regards
Viktor B

I checked back the website and he has indeed spend another twenty minutes trying to fill out the forms, but lost his patience with it.

So far this is the end of it. I have not replied back to him as of yet. I figured I go looking for a co-baiter to play Mohammed, but as Firehouse5 pointed out, it might be a better idea to have him chase after a Western Union PIN on the hotline provided here: https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=271838

I will update this thread as soon as I made up my mind on how to continue with this lad. It would be great to receive some feedback from you guys. How would you continue?

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:57 pm

Very nice baiting-this isn't a small effort: look how much time he wasted!

Mohammed is his creation, not yours so I really don't think you can use him. Perhaps tell your lad you don't belieVe he'd give away your money and demand his email?

I do like The other modality as an option.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:07 pm

For future reference, you can report bank accounts lads give you to moderators.

Mr. Mohammed is probably an empty threat. I don't think this lad will drop you, but if he does, finding another one is easy.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:03 am

The story of Victor will continue.

I found myself a co-baiter and we are not baiting him together. Will post an update once I find the time to properly compile all the emails. Stay tuned.

Master Baiter Joined: 24 Feb 2016 Posts: 206

Quote:

Just a day later I got his reply. This rather lazy lad just sends a PDF file containing all his babble.

Just a quick thought.

IMHO opening PDFs from lads (or from any unknown source) is potentially hazardous, because they can contain malware, and often malware that is hard for scanners to detect.

http://www.thesecurityblogger.com/distributing-malware-inside-adobe-pdf-documents/

I always refuse to open PDFs from lads (easy to claim that you get an error) and instead insist that they send the content as text within the email (or as an image file).

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:29 pm

Took me while to compile, but here is the mentioned update on Viktor. As I said, I found myself a co-baiter . Many thanks to Lighten_up for his great help and support in this bait.

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My dear Viktor,

who is that Mohmammed-Guy that tries to steal my money? Are you kidding me? I put my heart into this transaction and as soon as the first little problems pop up you start betraying me? That is not the way honest people do business. Let me remind you of something: Just a few days back you were bitching about how afraid you are that some forms on the internet would lead you strait into ISIS hands. And now you want to start working with someone from Saudi Arabia? Are you kidding me? Where do you think all major terror organisations in the world get their money from? Most of them are secretly funded through Saudi Arabia. But if you want to, go ahead with Mohammed. But don´t come back complaining about you just gave a terrorist organisation almost half a billlion dollars.

I also had long talks with two people. First of all I talked to my guy at SecurePTS. I had him check the forms you already filled. He told me that there was indeed some errors with their servers. Your connection was reseted several times due to false security certificates. That kind of thing usually happens when you try connection some shit-ass backwater country computer with out of date soft- and hardware to high-end security servers in state-of-the-art server farms. I really think you should get new hardware. A nice MacBook for example. Let me tell you buddy, those Apple computers are pure magic. They are fast like no other computer. It is almost a pleasure to work with them. Go get one if you have the chance. At least this would solve this technical issues you seem to have. Furthermore, the Mac OSX operating system has top notch security features, so hackers have no chance at all to break the encryption on those machines.

Well, after I talked to my tech at SecurePTS and discovered that for now you can not fill out the forms, I called my oldest friend and business partner. His name is Gerald Donald Riva. Gerald is like a brother to me, but even closer then brother will ever be. He is handling my private finances for well over three decades now. I trust this guy with my live. He kept my fortune save during every financial or political crises. We talked for almost five hours. I explained our business to him. First I wanted to keep Gerald out of this. He has more then enough on his plate as it is. You might have noticed that I copied Gerald in on this email. He now also has our previous email conversation, which means he knows every word we spoke over the past few weeks. He lives on the Cayman Islands and has authority over my personal accounts. The accounts that don´t show up in connection to my companies, if you understand what I mean.

Now comes the part you have been looking forward to:

I authorized Gerald to send you your fee. I had him set up a special account and already transfed USD 150,000.00 into this account. The sole purpose of this account is to handle our transaction. Gerald will be in touch with you shortly to clarify the transfer details. You are to supply him with a viable bank account in which he will transfer your money.
However, Gerald is a bit concerned about security (as he should be, half a billion USD is no small amounts) so he will be all professionals with you. He will audit you to make sure you are who you say you are (this would not be neccessary if you had tried harder to fill int he SecurePTS-forms. According to my guy there you could have still filled out the forms if you had put some effort into it). Anyhow, this audit won´t be as strict as the SecurePTS. But it still has to be done to meet the Cayman Island security standards (which aren´t as strict as the German ones are).

So please provide Gerlad with the following:
1.     Copy of your ID send from your email account
2.     Correct bank account details.
3.     A list of your employment over the past five years
4.     A photo for the file (good resolution!)
5.     An invoice for the fees

Once the above files are in Gerald email he will immediately release your money. Depending on which bank you use it will be in your provided account within 3 to 5 business days. South African banks are not as primitive and ill-equiped like banks in Nigeria, Ghana or Cameroun, so I guess it will be within your account after three days.
One more thing you will be pretty happy about: As the last token of my faith and seriousness of this transaction, I authorized Gerald to send you the full fee (USD 14,190.00), not just the USD 5,900.00 you keep whining about. And as a little extra, to make things interesting for you, he will be sending along some money for you to start equiping yourself with good hardware. I am pretty sure there is an Apple Store somewhere in South Africa. Go get a decent Macbook, an iPad Pro and an iPhone. I do not know the prices for such hardware in South Africa. Please source for some good offers and let us know how much money those three devices will cost. Gerald will then adjust the transfer amount accordingly.

@Gerald in reading: Buddy, this is Viktor. As discussed, please offer him your best service and assistance in order to safely transfer the money to him. Please keep me informed on every step of the process. If there is any hick-up/problem whatsoever, I want to know about it immediately. You know how important this transaction is to me. I expect nothing but your peak performance.

Well my dear friend, the ball is in your court. Looking forward to hear the good news of the money arriving in your account.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

He replied quite swiftly and unusual eloquent:

Quote:

Please stop this bullshit. please do not contact me again

At this point I figured I lost him already. But I was not quite ready to give him up yet. So I replied in kind:

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Dear Viktor,

are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you have any idea how fed up I am with your bull shit right now? I have put hours and hours and hours and more fucking hours into this transaction. And now, on the brink of finally making progress, after you screwed up over and over and over again and right after a friend of mine also put some of his precious time into this transaction (as a personal favour I might add), you send me this short mail? I ask you again, are you fucking kidding me? Are you a joker or a clown?

If I were you I would get my head out of my ass and finally start working for my money. Do you really believe I will let this go after all the time I put into this. Get your lazy ass up, send Gerald the documents so that we can finally close this deal.

And one more thing: If I had done business like you obviously do, I would have never been able to accomplish anything. Do you really want to spend the rest of your live on an uncivilized continent picking up little bread crums or do you finally want to hit the jackpot and move your sorry ass to Europe? When you tuck your kids to bed tonight, take a good long look at them and ask yourself again: Staying in a shithole in Africa or move up the food chain and go to where the good live is at?

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

At the same time Lighten_up joined in:

Quote:

Hey Volker,

My Friend, I hope your day is going well..I don't have a lot of time but wanted to send you a quick note.

So what is going on here? I get in to the office this morning and see 2 emails from you.. One says to work with and transfer money to some guy named Viktor Baloyi -- I had started the paper work and was composing an email regarding these transactions.. Then I get a Second, "rant" between both of you?

Can someone explain this to me? Are we moving forward with this deal or not. At this point I would say you too do not have a meeting of the minds and I would recommend you get your business straight first!..

If I can be of assistance, please let me know but for now I am putting these transactions on HOLD.

Btw: I received your money. ($150,000) this morning.. and have posted it to your account.

Your friend

Gerald..

Of course I replied to my long time friend:

Quote:

Hi buddy,

sorry for the mess, I really am. Seems like one of those clowns got the better of me. For now, put the money into the account, but put the payment process on hold for the time being. I have to see if Viktor is really bitching out of this or not.

Will get back to you later.

By the way: I will be at Grand Cayman sometime in July. This time I will bring the family. How about a fishing trip with the boat? Just us gentleman for two or three days?. Will be fun.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

Buddy talks continue, hopefully adding some credibility to Geralds character:

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My friend,

July will work.. But it has to be after July 4th.. All the Wankers from the States invade this place during the forth.. Isabella will be so excited to see all of you.. Oh speaking of boats.. you know I just upgraded right?

Talk to you soon my friend

Yours,
Gerald

Some more

Quote:

Hey Buddy,

I will never ever travel to GC in the wake of July 4th! Last year was quite enough, thank you Sir. Remember this two drunk asses from NYC? One of them puked on my brand new Macbook on the inbound flight to GC. Luckily he was insured well enough to replace it. I think we will come over when Paul and Eva are on school holidays. My grandkids are really looking forward to see you guys again. Holidays will start at the end of July.

You upgraded, seriously? Don´t tell me you got that big old lady you were talking about a few month back? The one with the big sundeck?

Have a good day, I am almost off to bed. I am not as young as I used to be and I need my beauty sleep.

Volker

Until, finally, the lad came back. Seems like it worked. At this point we already believed he won´t be back. I really like his email, it gave me my very first piggy here on Eater:

Quote:

Dear Friend, Volker,
I have manage to stop the communication with mr mohammed and now i can you are serious . now please send this account to your friend to transfer the this money this this below account.
Bank Details To Pay The Part Payment of USD$5, 900.00 Dollars Below.
Bank Name: Bidvest Bank
Account No: 3582082732001
Swift Code: RNNSZAJJ.
Beneficiary Name: Matshepo Dineo Modise.
Address: #72 Ben-more Road Sandton. Johannesburg South Africa.
Fax the payment slip to fax no: +27-86-515-4728. Or you send it through email attachment.
Regards,
Mr. Viktor B.

I happily replied:

Quote:

Hi Viktor,

great to see that you had come to your senses (again). But let me tell you, if you start bitching around again, this will be the end of it and you can go ahead and fund ISIS/Mr. Mohammed. This deal should have been said and done last week. So pretty please with a cherry on top, lets get serious on this. Agreed?

Gerald, please see to it that Victor receives the requested money. I think you already started the paperwork, right? Please finalize it right away. I want this transaction closed by the end of the week. Therefore please give this priority over my other matters.

Well gentlemen, it seems like we are getting somewhere now.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

I think he was already suspicious at this point, he falls back to his short, fuck-off kind of writing:

Quote:

Thanks for your mail.
Waiting for the payments slip.

More buddy-talk, „accidentally“ coping Viktor in

Quote:

**dropping Viktor**

Hey buddy..

I wanted to double check.. Are you sure you want to mess with this dickhead? He seems like someone we can't trust.. Remember That Greg Skiller from a few years back.. Seems like the same type of flaky dude..

Volker, look I will do what you want as always, but I think something is weird about this Victor character.. If you decide to continue, I think we should really check this guy out. For example, you asked for him to send me his ID and info and all he did is send some AFRICAN bank account and demand payment!.. Come on!.. Really?

Anyways..think about it and get back with me ASAP.. If you want to still proceed i will send the dipshit an email asking for his ID and stuff again!..

Thanks
Your Friend and partner.

Gerald

Blabla blabla

Quote:

Hi Gerald,

I know it is hard to believe, but yes, I actually want to continue with this. It is quite a lot of money, even for our standards. I do remember Greg, that was a lesson hard learned, but hey, I recovered from that 25,000 USD I lost back then. But I have a good gut feeling about this. And you know I always listen to my gut.

Anyway, do not release those funds before he sends the requested documents. I may have lost some money to this scammers in the past, but I am not to fall for another one. So if he does not provide the documents, we drop him. But I don´t think this will happen. Trust me on this one buddy, this will turn out just great. Of course you will earn your usual commission on this transaction. With this kind of money in the game, it will be more than enough to upgrade to an even bigger yacht.

By the way, I really appreciate your input on this one and thought about it hard and long. Thanks my friend, always appreciate your opinion. But in this case I will just overrule it and look forward tot he money.

With best regards

Volker
Berlin - Germany

Time for Gerald to get in touch with Viktor

Quote:

Good Day Mr Victor Baloyi,

Warmest regards and Happy day to you, my good man.

Mr Volker Lehmann, has instructed me to set up a bank profile for you in order to transfer some funds to you immediately and later receive some funds. If this is not to your understanding and agreement then please provide me the correcting language. I will confirm with Mr Lehmann and get thing right as rain.

As is Standard in these situations , let me state. I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW about this business deal in detail and will DISAVOWAL ALL KNOWLEDGE of these proceeding and transaction if questioned.

To open a bank profile I need YOU, MR VIKTOR B, to provide the following;

1 Copy of ID
2 Your Bank Account Info ( for money transfer)
3 Past employment (five years)
4 Passport (front 2 pages)
5 Fill out attached Bank Application form

Any delay in getting required documentation will delay this profile from being set up.. NO FUNDS CAN MOVE IN OR OUT WITHOUT A PROFILE

Best of the Day to you sir,

Warm regards

Gerald Donald Riva
Bank Manager of Private Accounts
Deutsche Cayman Savings and Loan LLC

No reply from Viktor, Gerald is sending a reminder:

Quote:

Dear Sir,

I have not heard from you today and it's almost time for me to leave for the day..

I did noticed I forgot to include the bank form.. Please fill this out and get it back to me ASAP..

Warm regards,

Gerald Donald Riva
Bank Manager of Private Accounts
Deutsche Cayman Savings and Loan LLC

Unfortunately nobody is making any progress with Volkers money

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Dear Victor,
dear Gerald,

does any of you gentlemen have any results to show? The week is almost over again and yet neither of you seem to do any progress. This is not acceptable! Not at all! I expect updates on the status of this transaction from both of you. Immediatly if it is not too much to ask!

With best regards

Volker Lehmann
Berlin - Germany

Unfortunately it did not help. Not a word from Viktor. Gerald however replies:

Quote:

Buddy,

Whoa.. calm down!.. I have sent Mr Baloyi ALL the needed forms and requested information and IDs.. ( I Thought I CC'd you?).. I haven't heard a pee from Mr Baloyi..

My hands are tied.. The football is in his court.

~Gerald

Gerald Donald Riva
Bank Manager of Private Accounts
Deutsche Cayman Savings and Loan LLC

Viktor remains silent. One more try to from Volkers side:

Quote:

Dear Victor,

if I understand correctly you still failed to supply the neccessary documents to my friend Gerald. I therefore assume you are still not willing to finalize this business. I should have known that you are an unfaithful joker who just wasted my time. It is indeed a shame that your kids have to suffer their fathers incompetence to finish a simple business deal.

Gerald my friend, if you do not receive the documents from Victor by the end of business tomorrow, pleas see to it that my money is transfered back to my usual account (of course you can deduct your usual commission, its not your fault that joke of a business man was up to no good). I think I owe you an apologie. You were right about this guy. Good thing no money went to Africa yet. I would have lost that money too.

We are still up for fishing in four weeks, aren´t we?

With best regards

Volker Lehmann
Berlin - Germany

This is the end of it, unfortunately. Right now I am thinking about to try to revive this bait by sending Viktor a payment confirmation and then start to act like we talked the past two weeks.

But so far, thanks for reading. I hope you enjoyed it as much as it did baiting that asshole.

Much thanks to Lighten_up for his help on this bait.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:02 pm

I like the back and forth between the heavy hitter. Nice baiting even if your lad twigged.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:30 am

Thanks a lot Capone. Just trying to do my part Very Happy