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ZONE
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:35 pm |
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Recently received email asking me to quote on work at a local address.
Claimed to be a Pamela Larson.
wouldn't agree to meet me at house to quote as she was supposed to be in hospital and wouldn't talk on phone as she just happened to be hearing impaired but getting an operation to rectify that. (Amazing medical breakthrough!)
Was happy to give me her Credit Card details to deduct deposit and materials. Hmmmm I started to grow suspicious even more.
Then a third party was introduced. A removalist was to deliver her furniture to her house but they didn't accept credit card and she asked me if I would liaise with them and pay them and reimburse myself from her CC. By this stage I am confused as to what the sting is.
This is a form of money laundering whereby they supply me with stolen CC details and I pay the scammer removalist/same person my money which is now clean, and they disappear and I have to refund stolen money from CC or something along those lines.
This is how it is going so far to date:
Hello,
This is Pamela Larson, I want to you install some new electronics i bought for my new apartment which include a ceiling fan, 64 inches plasma TV, 8 wall light and 10 power point(socket). . Also i would like to know if you accept credit card as payment.. Reply me if you are available for the work with your quote and company address.
Many Regards,
Pamela Larson.
HI Pamela,
Do you have a contact number I can call you to discuss in further details your requirements. I am unable to supply a quote with the details you have supplied alone as I need to know more about the job.
Thanks for your reply
I am hearing impaired and I am at the hospital right now will undergo a surgery so this is the best way to communicate. My address is 22 Celandine St, Shailer Park, Qld 4128
The Removals Company will be coming with my keys when they are bringing in the Electronics as they are helping me move in my house furniture from my former apartment to my new house.
About the TV is 60” FULL HD Plasma, 3D Smart TV with freeview HD, 600Hz and 4 HDMI and TV fit to wall (brick) also you will the supply TV bracket. The 10 powerpoint should installed where vacant and replace existing bad powerpoint. 4 of the wall light should be install in the lounge room and rest in my 2 of my bedrooms .My apartment is a floor house with a pitch roof for the 4 ceiling fans the should be install in the lounge room, dining and 2 of the bedrooms. Let me have from you the expected quote for the job and your required deposit.
I want to know if you can handle that for me, also i will need a contact name and other necessary details of your company so i can forward them to the removalist and they can contact regarding their delivery on my site. I need those information now so i can send your my credit card details for have deposit to work on.
Await your respond soon
Okay fine, I have inform the removalist that you will be in my house for installation.. They will be coming with the keys to my house so i want you advice the best day you can carry out the job so i can arrange with them to move in my belongings that day..
Also I would be grateful if I can have this favor from you cos i have not paid the removalist bringing in my furniture due to that they did not have credit card facilities for payment and due to my present condition beyond my reasonable control I wont be convenient for me to pay via other method that is why i want you to assist me.
I would like you to add an extra $1950.00 to amount you require for deposit so that you can have all the sum charged on my credit card and you will have the $1950.00 send to the to Removalist for them to be able to move properties to my house. After meeting with them on the site you can do proper inspection and go ahead with installation.
I so much wish to pay them directly but I am at the hospital right now and will undergo a surgery soon for my hear disabilities and I will want everything in place in my new house before I am discharge because i will be leaving to my new house to have a good home rest and continue with my post surgery treatment..
If you will agree to carry on with job I can email you my card details and also the Removals company details so you can agree on a date. I hope you well understand me by putting my condition into consideration and I am sorry if however it cause you inconvenience.
Await your response
As previously mentioned, I do not have credit card facilities either and I would require a cash deposit of $800 to cover some materials for the job. ie, fans, TV bracket etc
Unfortunately I am unable to pay the removalists as I do not have spare cash to do this.
Do you have a friend, relative or carer that I can liaise with while you are in hospital? Which hospital are you in?
Also, what is the phone number of removalist company so I can contact them and coordinate with them please?
I can do the job this week but would like to discuss this with the removalist company.
Are you supplying wall lights as I have not included the price of wall lights as I don't know what type you would like.
Unfortunately I am unable to pay the removalist.
Do you have a friend, relative or carer that I can liaise with while you are in hospital?
Which hospital are you in?
What is the phone number of removalist company so I can contact them and coordinate with them please?
Are you supplying wall lights as I have not included the price of wall lights as I don't know what type you would like.
What is the name of the removalist company and their contact number as I will phone them immediately and discuss this with them and see what I can arrange.
MONAZ PTY LTD
p : 1-800-799-591
e : [email protected]
abn: 62113279780
ask of hall and tell him you calling on behalf of pamela
await your reply
thanks
More to come.................................................... |
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Basinga
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:21 pm |
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Yup, looks like a standard stolen CC scam. There's no reason why she cannot pay the removalists herself... if she was legit...
Also a legit removalist company wouldn't use windows live for their official email...
If she's contacted you because you are a legitimate fixtures/fittings company, and she has any of your real details, drop her immediately. Do not bait if they have any of your real details. |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:46 pm |
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The writing looks West African. Please post the emails at Scamwarners, including complete headers except for your name and address.
If you want to bait her, create a new address with completely fake details (the name is made up, the address is plausible but doesn't exist) and respond as if she sent her original script to that address.
If you'd like us to bait her, post the original script with full headers in Surplus. |
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lakeside77
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:14 pm |
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ZONE wrote: |
wouldn't agree to meet me at house to quote as she was supposed to be in hospital and wouldn't talk on phone as she just happened to be hearing impaired but getting an operation to rectify that. (Amazing medical breakthrough!) |
This dodge works for me all the time on lads. |
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ZONE
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:11 pm |
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Basinga wrote: |
Yup, looks like a standard stolen CC scam. There's no reason why she cannot pay the removalists herself... if she was legit...
Also a legit removalist company wouldn't use windows live for their official email...
If she's contacted you because you are a legitimate fixtures/fittings company, and she has any of your real details, drop her immediately. Do not bait if they have any of your real details. |
It is unfortunate they have my details as I originally thought it was legit so I emailed a quote with a letter head with my real name and address details. For entertainment purposes I will post the rest of the email exchanges but will take your advice. |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:19 pm |
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If you were given CC details, report them to a mod. They have magical abilities to get those stolen cards reported so the actual owner does not suffer further.
I will ASEM a list of my units for sale and we'll see what happens. |
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ZONE
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:47 pm |
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have you contacted the removalist
No. I have tried several times today and the phone is engaged.
What I can probably arrange is to pay cash to the removalist on the day or bank cheque. I don't know what they would prefer. Let me know. I can meet them at the address of your house at 22 Celandine street at Shailer Park.
I spoke to my bank about setting up a credit card facility and they said that if you supply all your credit card details they can organise processing of the payment into my account. Not sure how they do this but they assure me that this can be done.
I need:
Name on the credit card
Type of credit card
Credit card number
Expiry date
3 digit security code on the back of the card.
I should have asked for a photo ID stating I need this to ensure that it was in fact her CC.
Hello ........
thanks for the reply I very happy for you making it possible I pray that God should be with you at all time of your life,here is my card detail below...
name on card ; Pamela larson
card type1 ; master card
card number ;5.............34
cvv ; ...
expiry date ; 04/15
card type2 ; master card
card number; 552..........62
cvv ;...
expiry date ;04/16
await your reply after charges,good day my regards to your family
I will not debit your card until the work is completed so a deposit is not required.
What day would you like me to attend the job site and meet with the removalist?
Regards
Of which I did not do
hello what about the removalist I told you about , if the removalist did not get there payment you wont be able to meet them on site so just kindly charge the removalist fee from my card to your account to pay them so you will charge the installation work fee later on my card..
await your reply
thanks
Before all these exchanges I went to the address and found the house to be for sale. I rang the real estate agent and told them what was going on and confirmed that Pamela Larson did not even own the house.
Sorry, I don't understand. I am confused. How am I supposed to pay the removalist company as you said they don't have credit Card facilities. You say to debit your credit card but have not given me instructions on how I pay them first and I can't reach them on the telephone. I can pay them first and then debit your card for full amount once the job is completed.
I am sure they would be more than happy to receive cash on the day as I am happy to meet them at the address before they make the delivery and pay them cash.
I wasn't confused of course despite the confusing and bizarre instructions.
Who wouldn't want to be paid in cash!?
hello thanks for the reply,the removalist are wanting upfront payment cause it wont be like ia m taking them to play I want to scam them just kindly go ahead and charge the remoavlist fee on my card and kindly call them now I guess they might be less busy now at this hour of the day..
await your reply
thanks
So they suspect her of a scam? This comes up again later.
For your records I have just debited your card for a deposit for materials. Amount of $800. I hope that amount is OK
I am leaving now to buy the materials required for the job so I will get any emails from you when I get back.
I didn't of course but they would have no way of knowing this.
hello kindly debit the removalist fee too now
Since I have not been able to contact the removalist I am beginning to doubt their reliability and legitimacy.
I don't want to see you being taken advantage of.
I didn't mention this to you but my uncle is the owner of a very large and reputable removalist company. The great news is that I can save you a lot of money. I have just spoken with him and he said he can do the work for you for half the price and even better is that they take credit card!
Just let me know the address of your unit and we can organise everything for you.
If that is not suitable please tell me the address of the removalist company so I can go and pay them or tell them to call me due to me not being able to contact them.
You have my number.
Perhaps if you can get them to call me otherwise we can organise the move for you.
I'm playing around a bit more know and getting a little more creative. Of course my Uncle is not a removalist but who in their right mind wouldn't accept this offer especially if I offered to go to their address and pay them cash up front.
hello kindly mail them I gave you there email address am sure they will reply you back
the removalist are well known to me that is why I am wanting there service
You say the removalists are well known to you!?
You said a few emails ago that quote "the removalist are wanting upfront payment cause it wont be like ia m taking them to play I want to scam them "
Why would they think you would scam them if you so well known to each other just as you said.
Your information appears quite inconsistent and your actions quite bizarre.
You are wanting me to email this company and arrange payment without even speaking with them on the telephone!!!!??? Not only that, but I did an internet search on this removalist company and they are not even listed as removalists so I am beginning to wonder if they even exists as even the ABN number you supplied does not even show up as saying they are a removalist company. Just how reputable are they.
I am beginning to think this is a scam.
My head says it is a scam but my heart says it is all legitimate and I more tend to think you are legitimate but perhaps slightly naïve and misguided as to what information has been provided to you from these so called 'removalists'
All it would take would be for these removalists (if they truly exist) is for them to telephone me in good faith so I can speak with them. I have no problem carrying out the electrical work for you but I am doing a favour for you out of good faith due to your current and unfortunate medical situation so I expect a little faith in return from them.
You seem to have no problem with sending me emails so I am sure it is no problem to you in sending the removalists an email asking them to give me a quick call on the telephone. I cannot fathom for the life of me what is so difficult about the concept of a simple telephone call. I have also continually asked you where this removalist company are located but this question keeps getting ignored or forgotten.
At this stage, I will require a $50 deposit in the form of a bank cheque or postal money order sent to my address. (refundable upon completion of all transactions)
This is non negotiable. Once I have received this $50 I will know you are legitimate and I will proceed as per your instructions and refund or deduct this $50.
Also, please can you email me a scanned copy of your drivers licence and or passport photo so that way I know who I am dealing with and I can rest a little easier knowing this is all above board.
Also, do you mind if I go and have a look at your house at 22 Celandine street Shailer Park and peek through the windows so I can get an idea of what I need to do. Out of curiously, where are you moving from. For some reason I picture that you are from the Gold Coast and what has made you decide to move to Shailer Park. Do you have family in the area?
I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen went I pointed out an inconsistency and appear irritated and suspicious yet still trusting of her.
hello all this question are beyond my present level of reasoning of my health state since you can t follow my instruction on how I want you to do my installation but you feeling you know best,it seems at this point I will tell you not to carry on the installation again and the $800 dollar that you charged from my card kindly transfer it to my bank account that I will provide for you once I wake up in the morning,thanks for the stress
Last email sent is as follows:
So do you still want me to do your electrical work? You sound tired. The problem is, I have since deducted $1800 in total (not $800) and have spend all but $41.90. Would you like me to email you the receipts? These are parts you will need anyway and if you do not want me to do your installation I will delver these parts to your house so a different electrician can use them. They are of course all brand new and undamaged and what you requested.
I am sorry you feel this way as I was just trying to help you as requested. If you wake up in a better frame of mind and decide to change your mind could you please ask your removalist friends to please call me on .......... and I will get payment details from them but I will need to deduct more money from your card. I feel bad that I have already spent the best part of the original $1800. My problem now is that I am out of credit on my mobile phone so I can only accept incoming calls and cannot buy more credit until 2 weeks time when I get paid cash next.
I was thinking now that I have been advised my ceasing the bait I should send a final email stating "I just found out my phone has been disconnected I didn't pay my account and I am being evicted from my rental property. I'm sorry I can't do the work for you as I need to find a new place to live. I told the bank my predicament and they were able to transfer/reverse funds from my credit card back into your credit card. I can email the bank receipt if you like but you should see the finds go back in and once I find a new place to live in and can afford to have the electricity turned back on and get my scanned fixed I can email the bank transfer receipt. I will be looking for a new job and will be moving interstate. Good luck and all the best for a speedy recovery. |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:25 pm |
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^ You don't even need to do that. Just stop responding and the scammer will get the hint and move on. |
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ZONE
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:53 pm |
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I have ignored them and yet they come: haha
hello, you never followed my instruction on how I told you to pay the removalist,i am quite unable to mail the removalist to call you but if you really want to go ahead with my installation kindly charge the removalist fee and I will send you the details for transferring the funds to them cause you can see that I gave your mail a late response cos I am unable to get access to the computer..
await your reply
thanks
Unable to email the removalist yet quite capable of emailing me and giving me their email.
I continue to ignore and then the next day:
hello ,I will want you to transfer the money you deducted from my card to the account details I will provide to you very soon
Getting down to business and now and to the point. I already told them that I spent the money with only $41.90 left over out of the $1800 I said I deducted from their credit card. |
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