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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:40 pm |
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Fake agent, but real extortion
I want your feedback regarding this - if any of you have experience
baiting this scam.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/pressreleases/extortion_scam.htm
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“The Drug Enforcement Administration is warning the public about criminals posing as DEA special agents or other law enforcement personnel as part of an international extortion scheme.”
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They target the victims on their stolen/purchased lists
meaning they have the victims identity, i.e., address, etc.
so baiting isn't a good idea unless you do it our way.
I don't want to go into detail regarding that part. Unless PM. |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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DoraTheExplorer
Baiting Guru
Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Posts: 9263
Location: Magnolia, Mississippi
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:13 pm |
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The Drug Enforcement Administration is warning the public about criminals posing as DEA special agents or other law enforcement personnel as part of an international extortion scheme.
The criminals call the victims (who in most cases previously purchased drugs over the lnternet or by telephone) and identify themselves as DEA agents or law enforcement officials from other agencies. The impersonators inform their victims that purchasing drugs over the lnternet or by telephone is illegal, and that enforcement action will be taken against them unless they pay a fine. In most cases, the impersonators instruct their victims to pay the "fine" via wire transfer to a designated location, usually overseas. If victims refuse to send money, the impersonators often threaten to arrest them or search their property. Some victims who purchased their drugs using a credit card also reported fraudulent use of their credit cards. |
I don't remember seeing this information posted here before, so helpfully this will help potential vics.
Seems a bit more sophisticated than our typical 419 scam. I don't know how you can really bait this kind of scam as they have RL information on RL people (that's how they would contact you). You can't impersonate a RL victim to bait and if you used one of your baiting characters, wouldn't they know they didn't contact you? |
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:41 pm |
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There is a way around that. The scammers have several
lads working the lists from several numbers. I got a number
from a complaints board, and left a voice mail like they had
called me. It worked, and the lad took it hook and all. I've
recorded conversations that are very disturbing. |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:51 pm |
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Here is the first call I received after the bait message.
Within a few minutes I get a call from "special agent W**** R*** with the DEA in Washington DC"
Enjoy!
NSFW * Language*
7a1680eb18c02c5bdefc712f70d5485e7e909e08.mp3
The lad was thrilled to hear about O**s being
on probation/parole since it gave him even more
leverage (so he thought) this led to another call he
received from a woman he believed to be O**s'
Parole supervisor. That one is recorded also. Woo hoo! |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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piecrust
Elite Baiter
Joined: 29 Dec 2010
Posts: 1620
Location: Having chow with an old friend.
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Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:25 am |
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^^Superb straightbaiting - you played it with total credibility. Qudos.
This is all frighteningley sopisticated, the mule who called you was not delivering that script for the first time, or even the twentyfirst time.
I never would have expected it to be baitable, dying to see how far this can go. (safeley of course) |
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:28 pm |
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@piecrust,
it isn't even close to being over, but round one's series of
phone conversations with this particular lad are here-
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=207324 |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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tazmanian
419Eater is my life
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 309
Location: A long way from where they think!
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:44 am |
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May I suggest that one of the heavyweights here draws attention to this scam? It sounds worryingly professional. A lot of people are well aware and on guard of your typical 419 scam but would not be prepared for this. |
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nathpesoj
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 18 Sep 2011
Posts: 18
Location: Malaysia, +7 geological, +8 official
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:21 am |
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http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=208531 this also similar, the imposter post as officer asking for money via bank transfer and/or wire transfer. if I happen to receive such call, it is somehow possible to bait the scam but dangerous. the clue you should get is bank acc no of the scammer, their personal phone number. for me it is good to see those imposter land themselves in custody |
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mikerotch
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 11 Oct 2011
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:22 pm |
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WOW! This is crazy. I would love to screw with these people. haha
But yeah this is surprisingly professional...
How did you get the number to leave a voicemail on? Complaint boards? Where would I find that? |
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:21 pm |
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@Dora, I know you asked the question back when i first started this, but i wanted to give you another example of how this bait can work without being on their victim list. Today the number i used on this bait received a call from a NJ accent lad offering discount narcotics using the same script and everything. they have a sophisticated scam, but the callers (especially the first round pharmacy lads) are still worthless little street thugs mugging the elderly, and shoplifting porn when they're not doing this.
If anyone wants to give it a try - here's the fresh phone number:
two zero one - seven one six - two five five three |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:50 pm |
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here is the beginning of my new bait with these thugs.
this is what anyone baiting can expect on the first call.
also, i called them from a different number
using a different persona, and they still took the hook.
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/7z52fsRq/NJ_fake_pharm_scam_feb_2012.html |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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BobCat
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 972
Location: on the 'net
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:44 pm |
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I'm surprised the real DEA hasn't shut this down.
We should have all the baiting sites in on baiting these scumbags. |
_________________ --BobCat
"I AM SEEK AND TIRED OF THIS AND I DONT THINK I CAN CONTINUE ANYMORE" Jul13t N0rm@n
"THANKS FOR MAKING FUN OF ME.." "I DIDNT GET ANY F***ING MONEY AND STOP MAKING FUN OF ME.. OK" Jul13t N0rm@n (rebaited from another character)
" I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT END TO THIS GAME,AND REASON WHY I SAID THIS IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT CONTINUE WITH GOING TO WESTERN UNION" Dr Bens0n
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKE TO GET A MAGA IS NOT EASY MAN, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE CAUSE ME FOR TWO WEEKS NOW I CAN PAY MY HOUSE RENT THEY ARE ABOUT TO SEND MY FAMILY OUT OF THE HOUSE WE LIVE" Dr @d3kun13 Bens0n
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Posted:
Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:35 pm |
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and another call today. same script just a different phone number.
please feel free to take out this fu**er's knee caps.
today he called from: eight three two - four two six - one seven zero five |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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zardoz
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 19 Feb 2010
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:22 pm |
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BobCat wrote: |
I'm surprised the real DEA hasn't shut this down.
We should have all the baiting sites in on baiting these scumbags. |
I really don't think they could get away with impersonating a federal agency without the tacit approval *of* that agency. If Axil Moto found them, then most likely the DEA can find them. Apparently you are allowed to extort money from admitted drug users under the guise of being a DEA agent as long as the real DEA gets a cut of the action. After all they are too busy smuggling drugs to engage in this kind of penny ante shite. |
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Dorothy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 3114
Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:11 pm |
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Axil Moto
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Splitsville
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Posted:
Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:11 pm |
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OMMFG the DEA impersonating fake pharmacy lads are alive and kicking. the sophistication, or vast wealth rather, keeps it going in spite of it's audacity. One federal agency refers to organized crime as many of us thought. In that case they have bigger charges to investigate before these losers get heat.
i will follow up w/ more audio asap. |
_________________ ME: "Excuse me? Did you really ask a question I clearly answered in my last email?! I just told you that, dammit! Were you skimming my letter? I despise skimmers! Damn you for making me upset! Damn you!!
Listen very carefully now, goddamit. You will read every single word I write. In fact, you will give each and every word meticulous consideration!!
LAD:
"SIR, I swear on my life, my soul! I go to church every day. i will never skimming again in my life."
ME: Your church has services every day?
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2yrs and 6 months
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