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Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

I got an email from a guy saying that he had a great deal of money from his company and wanted me to be the financial guy and go into a Joint venture.
I replied:

Hi!
I would like more details on your company's joint venture proposal. I'm sorry to hear about your boss. I own a large computer company here in the USA. I would like more info. Thanks!

I told him I was "Andrew Wiseman"

Him:

Thank you very much for your email.

We are happy to be associated with you and trust that you will work at close quarters with the investor (Sir Chino Brasco of Sino Champion Investment Company Limited and you can check out the Investor on ww.sinochampion.com to get details about my Boss.

My Client Sir, Chino Brasco owns Sino champion Investment company Limited here in London and it is a Crude oil marketing company that only works with a select clients. The bad health condition of the Chief executive office (Sir Chino Brasco) of sino champion Limited has necessitated our search for an investment manager with great experience to manage the already issued bank Guaranty of Euros 500Million for 10 years. Sir, Chino Brasco is down with Cancer and has less than 1months to
live, he has no wife or children and that is why we are searching for an investment manager that can be trusted to manage his Bank Guaranty for an initial 10years and other estate belonging to him totaling Euros 10Billion .

All of our work is done through the auspices of the UK Securities and Exchange commission. The maximum individual investment for Sino Champion Investment Company is 500,000,000.00 Euros, while for a company they can invest over 5Billion at one time.

If you are interested in managing the Euros500Million, then you must sign a memorandum of Understanding and NCND with the investor Sir, Chino Brasco whose identification is attached to this message. His offering you 30% of the Bank Guarantee value, while 10% will be set aside to cover reimbursement of all expenses incurred in the liquidation process of the Bank Guarantee and all legal, documentation for the BG to be liquidated after it is blocked to your name as the legal beneficiary, while 60% shall be for my boss and he want a certain percentage invested into creating a foundation in his name in your country to help cancer victims.

Note that our funds conveyed will be sent in the form of a unencumbered wire transfer after the Bank Guarantee is liquidated by you as appointed investment manager.

I agree that we communicate by email and telephone call should be only when it is extremely important. Transferring the Funds to your account after the BG is blocked to your name on screen with Euroclear and liquidated want be a problem as the bankers on our end are in a good relationship with my boss before he took ill and besides this BG , my boss still has two additional bank guarantees totaling 10Billion Euros available for liquidation/investment.

We only want to deal on the initial BG of Euros 500Million and once this is successful, we will hand you the other two bank guarantee.

We will advise you with full details of the bankers that issued the Bank Guarantee originally to sino champion Investment Company limited for liquidation of the BG.

We also need your clearly stated business plan on the investment option you intend to undertake as this is very key. This process is expected to take 14 working days from the day the MOU is signed.

We need your complete details as requested below along with a copy of your international passport for further documentation.

Your complete name and address
Contact telephone, fax and mobile
Occupation
Next of Kin
2 Forms of Identification

We look forward to a long and prosperous business relationship.

Sincerely

Crown Prince Mahmoud Moussa Abdulfatah

Director Sino Champion Investment Company Limited

WW.SINOCHAMPION.COM

(attached a FAKE passport)

http://i.imgur.com/9tZ82.jpg

Me:

Hello Prince.
I will send you the information and the passport too, but can I have your picture and passport.
Now, I know that you being a prince and all, there must be a lot of pictures of you on the internet.
But to make sure you are not a scam, I would like to have a picture of you holding a sign saying "Happy Birthday Andrew and His Company." You see, my birthday is next week and I founded the company on this day.
If you could send a clear picture, I will give you my plan and information you need!

Will continue with more info. Any tips on how to proceed and any ideas would be appreciated. This is my first time!

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:06 pm

It's a bit early in the bait to start asking for pictures and such. Normally, after they have a lot of time invested in you (like a month or so), you can start asking for pictures and silly signs.

Also, make sure to go sign up for a mentor, and welcome to the Eater. Smile

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:29 am

Please list sinochampion.com in the fake site forum to be killed. It has a one-year registration, the address given is in Brooklyn, the phone number is in Kitzmiller, Maryland, and whoever entered the address into whois is not American.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:57 am

You could send him "your" picture as it is important that both parties gain some trust and get to know each other. That opens the picture exchange item Twisted Evil

Just slowly work your way into the story. You might bait him with a second character so if 1 makes a mistake 2 still has his hands on him and 2 knows what he want and what he doesn't believe/goes for/insists and can act accordingly to prevent that road.

Have FUN, bait SAFE

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:40 am

Suggesting that you might look him up on the internet seems like a way to make him twig. You should be more trusting, a prince wouldn't misrepresent himself after all.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:36 am

Welcome andrewisthebest

There is one little thing - The fake passport looks too real for me. Please keep in mind that you shouldn't send anything that could be used against real victims.

There are plenty of ways to get around requests for official documents:
- Say that copying of official documents is illegal.
- Send the lad a corrupt file and blame the lad for not having the right software when he complains.

Specific for passports:
- You also say that you don't have one as you never had the need to travel outside your country.
- Your are under a criminal investigation, so the police has seized your passport.

There are more ways to get around requests for docs - Just use your imagination, and blame the lad if he complains Wink

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:35 pm

@Andrew

To expand on what Chudamentioned, you might want to have a read at this link about passports and other id.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209233

Sometimes I just type passportscan.jpeg and under line it, make it blue

passportscan.jpeg

If the lad complains he cannot open, it is computer that is the problem.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

Something seems to be happening wrong.
He sent me the same reply message again from [email protected]
Then another message, the one he originally used to get me from:
[email protected]

Quote:

ir,

I write to you based on the request by an investor and his need for investment/funding in your company. My name is Prince Mahmoud Moussa Abdulfatah and an executive director in SAICL.

Our company most times represents the interests of very wealthy investors (HIGH NET-WORTH INDIVIDUALS) Due to the sensitivity of the position they hold in their society and the unstable investment environment of their country, they evacuate majority of their funds into more stable economies and developed nations where they can get good yield for their funds.

My boss whom I had personally worked with for many years , recently, approached me that he wants an individual/company that will assist him to invest the sum of (Euros 500.000.000.00) Five Hundred Million Euros in Bank Guarantee on his behalf in a good profitable business in your company/country for a period of 10 years for a start. My Boss is retired, and very sick at this time and his family wants his investment re-directed to a proper Investment manager.Note that my client has additional Bank guarantee of up to Ten Billion Euros in smaller units available for your trading need.

You are required to provide me with your complete information including your international passport copy to enable me commence documentation between you and my boss for the Liquidation of the Bank Guaranty valued for Euros 500million only.

Other details like the percentage due to you for your assistance / partnership will be agreed upon in our next email exchange.

We look forward to a cordial Business relationship with you and i expect your email also to my direct email ( [email protected] ) Sir, i am royalty and cant send you my personal picture or passport as its against the institution i represent, but i can send you my company identification upon your request..

Best regards.

Crown Prince Mahmoud Moussa Abdulfatah
Tel: 44 703 1849785

With this as a run-on sentence:
"Sir, i am royalty and cant send you my personal picture or passport as its against the institution i represent, but i can send you my company identification upon your request."

I replied

Quote:

Great!
Here is my passport:
passportscan.jpeg
and my info.

Andrew Wiseman
Owner of Computer Innovations.
5543 Merry-go-round way
Mt. Airy, MD 21771

The address is fake and the "scan" is just a fake link.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

CRAP! WHAT DO I DO NOW!!!!!

Quote:

Thanks for the email.

We need to talk, send me your number to call you.

Sincerely

Crown Prince Mahmoud Moussa

Sino Champion Investment Limited

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:35 am

Sign up for a K7 number and explain you are live in an area that has spotty cell phone reception, or tell him you're deaf and have no need for a phone.

Not a big deal.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 582

You are hard of hearing due to car accident/military service.

You dropped your phone in the toilet/river/lake and haven't received the replacement one yet.

You live in rural area, really bad reception so you do email as it is reliable.

You phone service is cut off due to natural disaster/nonpayment/remodeling.

You ran out of minutes and haven't had chance to drive the 2 hours to the one shop that sells the brand card you need.

You believe cell phones cause cancer so you don't have one.

You child/spouse/friend borrowed it and hasn't returned it yet.

The dog ate it and you are arguing with the insurance company about it.

Or simply ignore the phone number request and ask a question or 2 of your own such as "is this legal?", "what about taxes?" or "what's it like being a prince?".

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

Great. I sent him a reply:

Quote:

Hi!
I sent you my identification. It is here again:

passport.jpeg
drivers.jpeg
informationsheet.jpeg

Also, I do not have a phone number yet as I went White Water Rafting over the weekend and my phone got waterlogged. I will let you know my new number when I get my brand new phone later this week. Cheers!

I plan on getting a nettalk duo and giving him that number. I also just started baiting a fake personal money scam (see my brand new thread.)

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:00 pm

^^^ Just make sure that your RL name is no way connected to the number Exclamation

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:22 pm

There are a number of baiters on this board who will field phone calls upon request. If you want, post a new subject line "Need help receiving/making phone call", get someone signed on to help you, brief him or her on what is going on, and work together on this!!

Bruin

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

Ok, got this back:

Quote:

Thanks for the email.

Your provided attachment cant be opened. Resend the identification and your complete details o the MOU and NCND agreement can be issued for your signature today.

Once that is completed, you will make contact with the Bankers for a liquidation of the Bank Guarantee .

Sincerely

Crown Prince Mahmoud Moussa Abdulfatah

Sino Champion Investment Company Limited

What should I send now or try to do?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:01 pm

Regarding ID, read through the link below and see if you can get some ideas from that.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209233

Sometimes I use these handy little tools.

http://www.xnet.se/fd/

http://www.freewebs.com/obiwanknievel/passportsids.htm

Some great passports on the obiwanknievel site

Or send some odd picture you glommed from the internet with has nothing to do with a photo id -- and send the lad that....If he complains, you can come up with excuses like, not sure how a scanner really works, or whatever your mind can create.

Blame everything on his faulty old computer.

Or in the alternative, may be you could ask some other question or make a comment, and for a while ignore the request to re-send your identification.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:56 pm

I have a JPEG which I created at the aspect ratio of a passport, then edited with a hex editor to make it look like total gibberish (though it still parses as a valid JPEG). I sent a lad it, he complained he couldn't read it, I modified a few bytes to make it look like completely different gibberish, and told him "It looks perfectly fine to me! The passport number is #########, can't you read it?" And he accepted it.

When you get the email introducing the bank, please post it in the fake bank forum, and when you get the email asking for the fee, post that too and the site should be ready to kill. It's an email-only domain now, so we need that evidence to kill it.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 48

Got a lot of messages... uncertain what to do next. I would like to get wood art baiting out of this guy!

Quote:

Attention: Mr.Andrew Wiseman

Sir,

I acknowledge receipt of your email message.

Attached is the MOU and letter of authority issued by the investor Sir, Chino Brasco and also a copy of his identification for your perusal.

Once you sign the attached documents and send them back, i will give you the contact details for the bankers that issued the Bank Guarantee to the investor to enable you contact them and request a liquidation of the Bank Guarantee attached to this message and a subsequent transfer of the Bank Guarantee value to your bankers for investment.

Call me when you get this message on : +447700092302 for further clarification.

Sincerely

And later sent

Quote:

Attention: Mr.Andrew Wiseman

Sir,

I acknowledge receipt of your email message.

Attached is the MOU and letter of authority issued by the investor Sir, Chino Brasco and also a copy of his identification for your perusal.

Once you sign the attached documents and send them back, i will give you the contact details for the bankers that issued the Bank Guarantee to the investor to enable you contact them and request a liquidation of the Bank Guarantee attached to this message and a subsequent transfer of the Bank Guarantee value to your bankers for investment.

Call me when you get this message on : +447700092302 for further clarification.

Sincerely

Crown Prince Mahmoud Moussa Abdulfatah

Sino Champion Investment Company Limited

Attachments in mediafire!
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ee77r32ya7qikqd/recompanyproposal.zip

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:46 pm

Tell him you're a very busy person and the phone number is continuous on busy tone. When he wants to contact you you're availble on (you're E-Adress) Take a delay (couple days) use some Bible text to temper his voice and maybe you regane the bait