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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey did anyone see scammed on the History Channel? It was on today (12 10 2011).

The scam they did was the AFF (419) fraud, I thought it gave a pretty good overview and sort of explained the motives and explained why mugus do things they do.

They also had a real con artist go through the motions of a 419 scam. The guy was actually pretty good at it. The victim wasn’t a fool either.

The whole thing really went far to dispel myths like

Mugus, are really stupid the only more stupid are the vics

Its done by people just trying to get by.

The reality is

This is a scam that is run “professionals”, who could careless about anything but money.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
Mugus, are really stupid the only more stupid are the vics


Victims are very rarely stupid. They become victims for many reasons, mostly from ignorance ( old people spring to mind), a lack of money ( the unemployed for instance), some from naivete etc, some from greed.

Quote:
Its done by people just trying to get by.


No- its done by criminals. There are many people in West Africa who are very poor. I don't see them spending their time in internet cafes pushing formats. I do see lads spending victims money on bling. They are not just " trying to get by"

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes I saw this, but I managed to get the DVD, I thought it was pretty good personally I would have killed the Nephew... Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'll have to keep an eye out for that one.

Any program that helps to shine light on the reality of the scam world is worthwhile, IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

music man wrote:
Quote:
Mugus, are really stupid the only more stupid are the vics


Victims are very rarely stupid. They become victims for many reasons, mostly from ignorance ( old people spring to mind), a lack of money ( the unemployed for instance), some from naivete etc, some from greed.

Quote:
Its done by people just trying to get by.


No- its done by criminals. There are many people in West Africa who are very poor. I don't see them spending their time in internet cafes pushing formats. I do see lads spending victims money on bling. They are not just " trying to get by"


Didn't you see? Above it said 'dispel myths like'. Below it, 'The reality is'.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I would have loved to see it. Chris Hanson did a special on scams a year or two ago that was real good. He posed as a mugu and followed the trail into Nigeria where he went under cover to talk with the "barrister." It was real good.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
personally I would have killed the Nephew...


I thought this test was kind of unrealistic and unfair. The newphew introduced the victim to the scammer so of course the victim would be more open to the scam.
Certainly if my brother introduced me to someone who had a business proposition for me I'd be more willing to listen than if I were approached by a stranger alone.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is the Episode; I think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwe8fxjsq3Q
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ScammedOut wrote:
. . . The newphew introduced the victim to the scammer so of course the victim would be more open to the scam.
Certainly if my brother introduced me to someone who had a business proposition for me I'd be more willing to listen than if I were approached by a stranger alone.


There was a big scam in Canada involving a Canadian farmer a couple years back. He lost in the neighborhood of about $250,000 and mortgaged his farm, etc. He was introduced to the scammer by a friend. He saw he was inclined to follow the instructions given by the scammer because it was a friend who introduced them, so he figured it was legit.

@buried Do you recall the name of the show. I would like to find if they have the DVD on The History Channel store. It might be handy to have that for a presentation on the topic at the local library.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think its title was "Scammed"

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Thanks. I found the dvd on the history channel website -- and it is on sale for 16% off. Saving nearly $4!! Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Maybe they will give Eater members a further discount!

I saw the last 10 minutes, but didn't think about a DVD being available. Thanks! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I watched some of it, and noticed that they were doing the scams in RL. I think that 10x as much people would fall for a scam if it was breathing in front of them instead of an inanimate emotionless computer screen.

Turns out the show is on YouTube too.

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