5 rules for straight baits

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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:23 am

I've been thinking about 5 rules to live by when straight baiting. If you remember all 5, you should have a good time.

1 Never give real life info.
2 Lads Lie
3 Baiters Lie in return.
4 Never feed them money - ever
5 Let their twisted lies cause them problems.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:10 am

6. Act dumb but be strong willed from the outset (in case more experienced lads take over the bait later on)
7. Use every trick in the book to delay payment and waste their time
8. Question every instruction they make
9. Introduce problems and side issues (try and get them off script)
10. Insist on ID, Documents etc to verify their credentials
11. Take everything steady & be patient - it's their time & money, not yours
12. (Depending on your M.O), insist that WU/MG payments are not acceptable for business in your country
13. Introduce silly words / phrases gradually into your script
14. Remember lads lie (again)
15. Remember you lie (again)

Any more anyone?.....

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:02 am

Agent1002 wrote:

3 Baiters Lie in return.

Baiters don't lie; we write creatively!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:33 am

Morgain Le Fey wrote

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Baiters don't lie; we write creatively!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:48 am

^^^

No, that is what lads write! Laughing

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:08 am

Morgain Le Fey wrote:

Baiters don't lie; we write creatively!

I consider the crap I write to be a soap opera in the making. While it might be Bullsh*t, I like to think it's at least creative. In a hitman scam I'm writing, I just foiled the hitman's plan to kill my character by killing my character off first!

That's creative isn't it? Rolling Eyes

Chrys

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:24 am

16. All problems with the transaction are the lad's fault.

Did you know that we have a comprehensive Straight Baiting Tutorial in Eater University?

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:18 am

17. If there is any work to be done, any effort to be put forth (e.g., calculating exchange rates, drafting documents, figuring out payment amounts for loans, etc.,) the lad ALWAYS does the work.

18. Any documents that a lad drafts will always contain a small but crucial typo or error that necessitates redrafting the document.

19. You will have to be emphatic about the above two rules; lads are lazy.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:44 am

Reasons for the 5 Rules

1 Never give real information
Pissed people can be dangerous.

2 Lads lie
If they told the truth, it would not be a scam would it?

3 Baiters lie
How long would the bait last if you told them you are not going to send money?

4 Never send them money
If you feed them, they multiply.

5 Let their twisted lies cause them problems.
In a straight bait, if a lad lies and said he is with the Red Cross, send the money to your local red cross. If they say they live in a small rural town in Kansas, send the Money Gram Money Order to them C/O General Delivery Certified mail, return receipt requested. It is not your problem if the letter is IP West Africa someplace and they requested a Moneygram sent to Wagontire Oregon.

Getting there is half the problem. Having proper photo ID is the other half.

Quote:

Wagontire Airport is a private airport located 56 miles southwest of Burns in Harney County, Oregon, USA. - All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License‎ - Wikipedia

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:39 am

@Agent 1002

Your five rules are applicable to ALL baiting, irrespective of modality.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:57 am

20. Drink lots of Pimms.

21. Never settle for anything less than 70/30 in your favour.

22. 10% for expenses??? Are you having a giraffe?

23. More Pimms please.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:07 am

Be creative!
Right now, besides from my "to-be safari bait" I'm straight baiting a lad, and inventing the most silly stories (I'm an old man who loves to talk, talk, talk and get far from topics). With the safari lad I have to be much more business-like, but with straight baiting I can have fun, write him a long mail telling him how I got my war wounds, how wonderful my grandson is...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:45 am

- let them dislike you.
- leave doors open for them. Ie, the door you want them to go through.
- if in doubt, take time to think. Let them repeat themselves.
- keep the money just in sight.
- if you're going to burn them, burn them with lies (gomer, other scammers etc)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:36 am

(whatever number we're up to) Keep the money in plain sight.

Always mention you have the money, and plenty of it; let the lad think the money is there, just dangling tantalisingly out of reach but his if he can just get past this problem with his maga...

... and the next problem ...
... and the next one ...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:45 pm

There are only two golden rules to baiting :

Rule 1 : Always leave the lad wanting more

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Baiting is an art form. To quote V... "artists use lies to tell the truth." And the truth is, the lads deserve every bit of it Laughing

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:02 pm

I usually don't lie to the lads - just let them be part of my own little world...

and the most important rule:

Quote:

Don't ever worry about seeming stupid. We're baiters. We do a lot of silly things in our baits. (Ima Baeder)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:46 pm

Praise him and encourage him. Reaffirm your commitment to the deal frequently. Don't slap too much.

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

24.The larger the font, the more legally binding the contract is.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:38 pm

sunshine wrote:

(whatever number we're up to) Keep the money in plain sight.

Always mention you have the money, and plenty of it; let the lad think the money is there, just dangling tantalisingly out of reach but his if he can just get past this problem with his maga...
.

First point is right on. Second point.. Being limited on money is sometimes an advantage.

I sent money to the lad's agent in a small (very small) town in the USA. I sent the westy as a money order in a certified letter return receipt requested and insured. The agent just happens to be out of town at the moment and can't pick it up at the post office. He will be out of town until next week.

They want me to recall it. I checked with the post office. Unclaimed mail is returned in two weeks as undeliverable. Can't call it back sooner.

Now they want me to send moneygram right away and wait for the return of the money order.

Sorry. I don't have an extra grand to send by MG. We have to wait for the certified letter to be returned.. Twisted Evil

Might as well pick it up next week. It'll be much faster. Rolling Eyes

I'd have a mule safari, but there is no mule.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 1066

If you ever get stuck, introduce a new character.

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:05 am

^^If the bait getting boring set up for a way to get your main character killed off and replace him/her/it with the side character.

-Get your characters to betray each other on the lad and the lad will be forced to pick sides only to find out he's helping the betrayer too.
-Make sure your lad is completely on the hook before departing for a safari.
-Don't correct a lad's spelling, just go along with the error and cause more errors in de-educating him (Barristers are Felonisters/Pimps/Punksters/Prostitutes/etc, turn nouns into verbs absinthe becomes absinthize, and etc).
-If you write with one than one character give each character a unique writing style to decrease the lad's suspicions. (Unless he's like Shorty where he confused Bluth(The Lawyer) for Sleepless (Courier Agent) then it can't be helped. Laughing

)
-If you must call your lad, use Skype.

Master Baiter Joined: 03 May 2011 Posts: 237

Agent1002 wrote:

Never feed them money - ever

Doesn't this entirely defeat the object of scambaiting? Does - or has this happened before?

Not quite a Newb Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 41

:shrug: Some people do, and have done, odd things.

Paying a lad does go counter to baiting...even if it is to progress a bait. Some folks just don't get that.

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:17 am

Morgain Le Fay wrote:

Agent1002 wrote:

3 Baiters Lie in return.

Baiters don't lie; we write creatively!

I dont lie. I just change few circumstances of the truth. Very Happy

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