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 Are we really making a dent in lads' wallet?

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Entomologist
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi B U 419 E, Smile

If that is the case^^^, then why do lads bitterly complain, "Why u chop my dolla Broda". That to me interprets the lad to be very surprised that it happens.
However I do remain open minded about this. I remember that song in a video clip. "I chop u dola. u are the mugu, I am de master.

Okay, I had my doubts, but having thought about it some more, I do agree with you. I believe you got it right.

er.. Duh, I am the mugu, u am de master. LOL

Cheers Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My impact on a lad today. This morning I posted a rental scam on SW and this evening received an email from a potential victim thanking me for posting.
One less payday for the scammer. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Something to consider when thinking of lad claims, whether it be no dolla chopping, a love of God or country, is that many of these people, are the same people who sell little children into prostitution (HOW SA'S CRIME SYNDICATES WORK; All Africa 10-22-2004). This says their reality is much different, from what is often portrayed.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Entomologist wrote:
Hi B U 419 E, Smile
If that is the case^^^, then why do lads bitterly complain, "Why u chop my dolla Broda". That to me interprets the lad to be very surprised that it happens.

Curiously, I'm having great trouble getting the lads to contact the chopper. I've offered the culprit on a silver platter, with his "e-mail" quoted and all, but they don't just want to write to the fellow lad Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh, and to answer collectively to all the great points seen in this thread, I didn't mean that we wouldn't make a dent in the lad's wallet, I was just curious how much we actually accomplish, and now reading all the answers, I see we actually make a difference. Glad to be a part of the solution Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Man of many names wrote:
I was just curious how much we actually accomplish

Obviously there is no way to quantify the impact baiting makes on the scamming industry but I have no doubt that baiting is a real thorn in their side. My hunch (based on a wide variety of observations over the past few years) is that thorn is a rather large one. Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

On paranoia and confusion in ladland... remember for a while, the lads wouldn't touch "gmail jokers" with a ten foot pole? There are an awful lot of real potential victims who use gmail. THAT is our goal - make them so scared of getting baited, that they drop real victims at the slightest hint of trouble or confusion, for fear of the whole thing going belly up at their expense. Again.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I always finish payment type baits off with who works for it is very satisfying and great fun - lots of "stop writing to me" emails which of course require another taunting reply

e.g. one to a lad just now (slightly NSFW)
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GUY LISTEN FO MI U DEY DI SMOL CAFE BOI I DEY MAN HIE UNA NOR TEL MAN PICKEN WETIN FO DO OK ?I DEY WAD NAU WIT LOTS OF DOLLAS ALREADY BICOS U NO WRK WIT DIS MAN, OK. LIVE DI PROPER BUSINESS FO MEN NO BOIS LAIK U MEBE U SUPPOSE TO GO BACK FO SUCKIN MEN ****S FO DI LIVIN? SPEAK NICE FO MI NA ILL SEND U 200 DOLLAS FO FINDIN DIS FOOL


I'm sure he won't be able to resist Smile

perhaps Bravo's clowns and my few not only wasted time but gained ridicule and probably a kicking for not paying the other lads they had to involve? now that would be a shame Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh yes. Safaris can kill them financially.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^I don't use Gmail. I use a few other webmail providers, going through Tor to hide my IP address. So now a baiter could be hiding in almost any email address out there.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's another significant point:
Lads' expenses are mainly the internet cafe, or their private connection.
Now if baiters had no or little impact on scammers' pockets then why would they spend some of that money to send a rant.
Their time has been wasted. Their money consumed on connection.

Most lads will drop the baiter when they twig. Other fiesty ones, well, they're fun.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I never give a lad my RL phone number. I have a GV number reserved for lad use. It is forwarded to a free VOIP account and a telephone adaptor with an answering machine. Just today, I got 6 cell phone calls, 4 which left messages.

The normal mode that gets the calls is to get a Money Order and ask for the address of their US shipper. The claim of WU or MG is much more expensive for domestic transfers will get them on the phone trying to explain why MG/WU is better than a postal money order.

If I happen to be handy by the phone (in a back office) sometimes I'll pick up which is good for an extended call.

My DHL lad has been very excited when I took the Money Order to my local DHL office to pay the DHL shipper.. I asked for the shipment order so I could pay the charge on it at my local DHL office. He has been trying to get me on the phone for a couple of days now. I'm out of the office for the holiday.

I just wrote him back today and asked again for the address of the DHL office the money goes to.

I then proceeded to tell him the offices will be cosed tomorrow. Then continued to describe in detail the big turkey dinner plans including the yams, cranberry sauce, gravy, wine, eggnog, pies, etc. Then I went on with the Black Friday sales. Picking up a new laptop for $130. I expect a few more calls soon. Very Happy My phone plan is for domestic calls only, so I can't call him. He keeps trying at his expense.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I almost forgot to mention but baiters at fake scam banks and sites are making a big impact on lads wallets. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Man of many names wrote:
Curiously, I'm having great trouble getting the lads to contact the chopper. I've offered the culprit on a silver platter, with his "e-mail" quoted and all, but they don't just want to write to the fellow lad


Many lads, I think, don't fully understand what is going on in a dolla chop, and others may be intimidated or unsure of the situation, and hence don't want to contact him.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Agent1002 wrote:
My phone plan is for domestic calls only, so I can't call him.

That's a good idea. I've noted that one. I wouldn't be able to use it on Lads who have an 070 (virtual) number, which ostensibly is British.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I usually just tell lads that I called them and it didn't go through. If they ask to call me, I give them a confirmed fake number that doesn't connect to anything.

If they say it didn't work, I tell them that I got a call from my friend overseas with no worries, so my phone is fine.

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u got 12 hours to send the money remember no game u fuck face

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