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ben_dover
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:02 am |
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I just got an email from a lad I have been stringing along for a while that just said "bros na we we". What does it mean? I assume I have been rumbled but I would like to know what it means anyway. |
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TheDane
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:40 am |
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His brothers have no weewees? |
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ben_dover
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:44 am |
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Hmmm...hadn't thought down those lines.
Maybe he is saying I have no dick? |
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windypops
Baiting Guru
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:16 am |
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He's probably shortened "na well well". Lads chop pidign all the time.
It translates into something like not complete. He's saying, bro, you are not all there. |
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ben_dover
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:21 am |
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Very odd then. All I was trying to do was buy £85000 worth of diamonds off him with the proceeds from my "associate's" illicit import/export business. Surely that is a normal day for him? |
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"i am so delighted about your message to me may the good Lord in his infinite mercy enlarge your coast for good this season"
"The deceased customer who died on May 2nd 2007 in a gassy car accident..."
"Im going to sell my phone and balace the guy that help me back to lagos his on my neck" |
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windypops
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:34 am |
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If he's calling you bro so he suspects you're another lad. Rumbled your character's name maybe? |
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Bertje
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:35 am |
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ben_dover
Wannabe Baiter
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Posts: 84
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:14 am |
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Oh well, I guess it could lead to some lad-lad baiting. I will reply a bit later on. |
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"The deceased customer who died on May 2nd 2007 in a gassy car accident..."
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Rowenar
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 31 Dec 2010
Posts: 59
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:35 am |
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Attempt at translation:
"We're bros, no we-weeing on me."
I dunno...maybe the 'bros' is mistaken as well. |
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Weisze Tod
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:41 pm |
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Without context, Pidgin can be a little tough to translate, but taken at face value:
"It's us, man!"
Analysis
If he's talking to you in Pidgin, he obviously "knows" you're a scammer yourself. You probably did something very Lagosish in your baiting (which is a good thing, by the way).
"bros" - a way to refer to someone. I've translated it by sticking "man" at the end of the sentence. Another way of looking at it is when folks start a sentence with "dude," or indeed "bro," which shares the same root word as "bros," brother.
"na" - common mistake to think it negates something. It doesn't. "na" is hard to explain since it doesn't have a direct translation in English. Loosely, it can be translated into "is" or "are." In the above sentence, I translated it to "it's."
"we we" - "We" is an English word. Saying something twice in Pidgin means he's emphasizing. For the sake of proper grammar, I translated it as "us" in the sentence above and added an exclamation mark at the end for the second "we."
And if you still haven't figured out what the fellow is trying to say, he's basically amazed that you, as a 419 scammer, haven't figured that he is a 419 scammer. |
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username14
Please Taunt and Ridicule Me
Joined: 27 Apr 2011
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:28 pm |
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Wow, you should write book. That was just down right professional. |
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Juan Freizwidatt
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Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:07 pm |
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Weisze Tod beat me to it with a well-detailed explanation. That's exactly how I read it. The key is that he's calling you 'bro,' and as Weisze says, "na" translates to "is" it "it is" or similar depending upon context. Basically, "we're brothers." Probable unspoken meaning, "let's work together." |
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Weisze Tod
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:19 am |
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username14 wrote: |
Wow, you should write book. That was just down right professional. |
Haha, thanks.
OP, the best course of action to take in your bait right now would be to play it exactly as the scammer's called it. By doing this, in any situation, you're increasing the efficiency of your work since you don't have to spend time and energy convincing your Nigerian counterpart that what you say is truth, nor dealing with him getting cold feet out of suspicion at the last moment.
If you'd like some help writing back in Pidgin, you're welcome to contact me via PM and I can write up some translations or teach you to do it yourself.
The invitation's open to anyone, by the way. Don't underestimate the power of talking to scammers in their own language. |
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pete515
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:52 am |
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I am very impressed with the knowledge of pidgen - it's almost like a code rather than a language. I made the mistake of writing to a lad as a scammer in pidgen. He saw through me in no time at all but still thought I was a fellow scammer accusing me of being an Arab who was muscling in on his accounts.
It's all the NA and DEY which confuse me. |
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Weisze Tod
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:41 am |
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In a way, a code is exactly what it is. Being a pidgin language, by design, it's going to feel like the middle ground between many languages, held in place by culture rather than syntax. To everyone whom I've ever worked with in learning Pidgin, I've always told that 419 culture and their language are like two sides of the same coin. You can't truly comprehend one without the other. Something to think about for any aspiring pigeons amongst you. |
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Nailgunner
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:27 am |
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na = it is, or it shall be that, ie
na u go chop bullet = You're going to get shot
ur mama na ashawo = Your mother's a whore
na e big fool = he is very stupid
dey = unclear. Sort of word mayonnaise, fills in gaps. can mean to, to do, doing, it just seems to keep the sentence going.
ie
go dey prison = go to prison
how you dey? = how you doing?
i dey = yeah, not bad.
Mistakes are common in genuine lad pidgin, so just batter it out and hope for the best. They seem to do likewise, with enthusiasm taking place over exactitude. |
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Boris_YELLsome
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:59 pm |
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^^^^^
Alot of them even seem to call you 'stupid' for typing in pidgin, as in they insinuate that yua dey bush monkey for not learning 'proper' english. |
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firehouse5
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:12 pm |
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^ with that in mind it can sometimes be productive to write in overly "educated" english (feel free to abuse the thesaurus), and lord it over your lad correspondent for not being suitably educated & thus inferior to you. "Please write in proper English as I am no street boy". This also means you don't have to try and pull off pidgin - which is hard to do believably.
however if you look around for pidgin sources (especially if you look for a specific word like "dey" and the term pidgin), you can get some good sources which give good examples how you might use them. If you add linguistic jargon terms like "tense" or "aspect" you can get some technical explanations of how they are used in the language.
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dey = unclear. Sort of word mayonnaise, fills in gaps. can mean to, to do, doing, it just seems to keep the sentence going. |
"dey" originated from English "there" and is very often used to reflect present progressive (ongoing action in the present time):
U dey chop > "you are eating".
Can also just be the verb "to be" - u dey home > "you are at home". |
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Rowenar
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:15 pm |
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One other trick is to use something like Google Translate, there's a distinct corruption when you put it to, say, Spanish, and back, so you can reasonably claim to have simply used a translator.
Case in point:
One other trick is to use something like Google Translate, corruption is a different when you put it, for example, Spanish, and vice versa, it can reasonably claim to have been limited to using a translator. |
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 pm |
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fwiw I had a lad on the go once to whom I spoke in very good BBC english with just the od lad-ism thrown in. he almost worshipped me for some sort of uber-oga. it was disgusting. |
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TheDane
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Aug 2010
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 pm |
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Rowenar wrote: |
One other trick is to use something like Google Translate, there's a distinct corruption when you put it to, say, Spanish, and back, so you can reasonably claim to have simply used a translator.
Case in point:
One other trick is to use something like Google Translate, corruption is a different when you put it, for example, Spanish, and vice versa, it can reasonably claim to have been limited to using a translator. |
Or use Babel Fish for that stunt. It will make it look like it was written by a 6 year old. |
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Rowenar
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:26 pm |
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TheDane wrote: |
Or use Babel Fish for that stunt. It will make it look like it was written by a 6 year old. |
So, the typical intelligence level of a lad then? |
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:11 pm |
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"dey" originated from English "there" and is very often used to reflect present progressive (ongoing action in the present time):
U dey chop > "you are eating".
Can also just be the verb "to be" - u dey home > "you are at home". |
useful - Thanks. I'd been wondering for some time. |
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Julia_Cio
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Sorry for the late reply, I'm new to this forum.
"Na we we" means "We are the same" or "You and I belong here". They commonly say it, when they are convinced, you are their fellow scammer.
I heard it quite a few times too. |
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Julia_Cio Welcome to eater. Please do not post in old threads. This one is several years old. |
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