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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:06 pm

Well, not quite. Nonetheless, Jackson Fred has been an industrious lad. First, he made 2 attempts at the 6-page MoneyGram security form:

As a reward for his efforts, Jackson received a Money Transfer Form with the MTCN obliterated by a ‘PAID’ stamp.

So, a few weeks in, we tried Western Union. This time it took 3 attempts at the WU forms before these were ‘accepted’.

This time, he received a Money Transfer Form with no MTCN and was directed to Security Shield, where he has spent quite a lot of the past 2 days. Here’s one visit:

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Session starttime: 2011-06-22 01:02:56(GMT-7)
Session endtime: 2011-06-22 02:40:39(GMT-7)
Answers: 50

Q: Have you used Secure Shield service before?
A: I have never used the Secure Shield before, but i think this is the best way to receive money because of those Internet hackers. I am well please with it
Q: If you answered yes to previous question, how many times?
A: I said No
Q: Have you received other type of electronic transfers before?
A: No because that is not par of my business
Q: Why are you receiving these funds?
A: I am receiving this fund in terms of the business transaction between me and Mr monsignor
Q: Are the funds you intend to receive related to any criminal activity?
A: No and can never be
Q: Will the funds you receive be used for any criminal activities?
A: No but for the progress of our transaction
Q: Do you have criminal record or are you being investigated for any crime?
A: No since i am into business that have never been done
Q: Do you know anyone who is connected to organized crime?
A: No if i know i will quickly report the person to the nearest investigation office
Q: Do you know anyone who is being investigated for a crime?
A: No except in the network news
Q: Do you know anyone who has been convicted for a crime?
A: No not at all
Q: Where do you think dead people go?
A: Those who are righteous go Heaven, and those who are unrighteous goes to hell
Q: Sprite or 7-up?
A: Sprite which i like more better than 7-up
Q: The last time you had sexual intercourse, what one method did you or your partner use to prevent pregnancy? (Select only one response.)
A: I cannot select because i am married and so the pregnancy is important
Q: How would you describe yourself?
A: I describe my self as a man of wisdom and knowledge
Q: What is the US state capital of Washington?
A: the Washington capital is Olympia
Q: What is the US state capital of Washington?
A: the Washington capital is Olympia as mu own understanding
Q: Is volunteering worth the cost to you?
A: Yes it worth to me to pick out the cost of me
Q: If you were a monster, what monster would you be?
A: I can't even imagine my self of being a monster
Q: Do you often use the Internet?
A: yes of course i often use the internet
Q: Would you describe yourself as a workaholic?
A: yes because i am addicted to work
Q: Done drugs?
A: No which is what i can never try in my life
Q: What do you think is the worst crime a person could commit? Why?
A: I think the worst crime one could commit is to kill his fellow man.
The reason is that they can be in a business agreement which can be as a result of killing
Q: What are the mechanisms used in the manufacture of high density and low density polythene?
A: In my own understanding Up until the 1950’s the only type of polyethylene produced was low density
Q: What does your father do? (What does your father do for a living?)
A: My father is into business
Q: Who led the Million Man March on Washington?
A: To my understanding, Organized by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakha
Q: Can you name some other registered charities?
A: I have no ideal about this
Q: What job(s) do you wish to have in the future?
A: Still in my business plan
Q: What one thing would have made your year immeasurably more satisfying?
A: that will come from my mind when that times come
Q: How many different kinds of kung fu have you heard of?
A: non of it, i don't even know what Kung fu
Q: Where?s your favorite place to be?
A: in Vitoria island Lagos Nigeria
Q: Is there an emergency number you can call on to when you are in danger?
A: yes so as much in my country
Q: Do you think it would encourage people to be lazy?
A: No you have to work hard to earn your goal
Q: Do you enjoy scary movies?
A: No i don't even have time for that
Q: Why is it illegal to download movies and music from the Internet?
A: To me i have never done that, and is very illegal because i think that is pirated
Q: Stayed home on Saturday night, just because?
A: just because of help, if i work hard that day
Q: Is there assistance available to people that are homeless?
A: yes in my country, because some people do render help to them
Q: What kind of people annoy you?
A: every one who seems to be good to me
Q: Do you give money to beggars or homeless people? Why or why not?
A: Yes as a good Christian to good to render help to those who don't have
Q: Who was the last person you visited in a hospital?
A: that was my nice in the last 2 years ago
Q: Do you believe the predictions contained within your horoscope?
A: people is getting all of this wrong . horoscope was not meant to predict future
Q: In which year skating stars Torville and Dean win Olympic gold medals?
A: Torville and Dean are British ice dancers and former British-, European-, Olympic- and World champions. At the 1984 Winter Olympics
Q: Do you often fight?
A: no i don't even know when last i make quarrel with someone instead of even fighting
Q: In which bay is Alcatraz?
A: Around Alcatraz Bay Cruise to my own understanding
Q: Do you think it would be possible for you to get this job?
A: If am look for the job, it will be possible by God grace
Q: Do you think it would be possible for you to get this job?
A: If am looking for the job, it will be possible by God grace
Q: How many light years was ET away from home?
A: E.T. was three million light years away from his home, according to one of the movie's popular taglines
Q: What is your heritage?
A: i have no heritage, but for now mu younger once
Q: If so, what were you told?
A: I want to told to have the house of late grand father, which i refuse
Q: What is your favorite piece of jewelry?
A: Gold necklace
Q: Would you like to be a flight attendant?
A: No for the promotion for my business

After 7 visits to Security Shield, Jackson seems to have had enough...

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Hello Mr Monsignor,

I have tried a whole day answering questions, but i did not get to the end of it. I am very angry, just because i am trying to make sure sure this transfer come to reality, i have stress my self up a whole day doing nothing just because if this transfer.

I have answer amount a thousand questions, but at the end nothing came out it accept more questions. I lost contact of some of my customers because of the transfer, being answering questions. I am very angry any about this security question. Others customers who pay the transfer fee did not give me this thought time. They make sure i only receive the western union payment receipt slip.

Tell them all i said, if they still insist on answering more questions, i can't continue with this transaction. You can still even try it your self.

Really Mr Monsignor, i am so disappointing. All you have to do now is go to their office and tell them what i said, if they can't give you the receipt and the M.T.C.N number, they should forget about it.

Have a nice day, and get back to me with the result.

Jacson Fred

Actually only 158 Questions answered, not the 1000 he claims. That said, he has been a compliant and obedient Lad, but after a couple of months of frustration and wasted time, he seems to have now had enough.

I’m wondering how to keep him motivated...

PS: Apols to all for editing this so many times. The URLs for the thumbnails corrupted.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

How gratifying to see him work so hard looking up answers.

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I describe my self as a man of wisdom and knowledge

I'm sure he is.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:46 pm

Have you tried sending him an email trough security shield? that has given me some good laughs

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:28 am

Yes! He sent this:

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IP-address: 92.48.119.67
Time: 2011-06-22 02:40:06 (GMT-7)
Transaction name: Jackson Fred
i have been sending answer but still yet i have not receive the payment slip why?

So, I replied with this:

Quote:

Thank you for contacting Security Shield. We feel sure that you will appreciate that it is our duty to protect our senders of monies from fraud.

You have some more questions to answer: then your MTCN will be disclosed to you.

According to our records, you have 99,597.48 Nigerian Naira to collect.

Do not reply to this message, your reply will be discarded for security reasons. Please use the dedicated secure contact form on our website to contact Security Shield.

PLEASE NOTE: WE CAN ONLY REPLY ONCE TO YOU IN ANY 24 HOUR PERIOD!

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:33 am

Tell him it was rejected due to stupid answers like this which suggests that this transaction is criminal Wink

Quote:

Q: Will the funds you receive be used for any criminal activities?
A: No but for the progress of our transaction

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:42 pm

I agree with wowwow. And the lad gave you a great opening:

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You can still even try it your self.

Tell him you did try and because you gave complete and honest answers, you got the MTCN in less than 20 questions (or whatever number you think appropriate).

Now go back and give it another try, Fred. There's a good lad. Razz

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:01 pm

I also like to tell the lads that as a test (after their constant complaints) I sent myself a small sum of money and was directed to security shield. As promised, I was able to get my money in less than 5 minutes.

Is there something wrong with their computer? with them? Perhaps their answers are showing a pattern that indicates fraud to the security shield program?

I have found that modality will get them back answering questions at least a couple more times.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Thanks very much for the suggestions. I don’t want to tell him that I have got the MTCN, as there will be no acceptable reason why I can’t give it to him. As IM_Dumm has suggested, I have just told him that I have sent some money via Security Shield and got the MTCN. I hope that this will reawaken his interest.

Elite Baiter Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 1702

its not very often lads are honest

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Really Mr Monsignor, i am so disappointing

One other option is to go with an off-key response to him.

You could ask him if someone else helped him fill in the form, because they refunded the money as one or more parties appeared to fill in the form multiple times, this resulted in the transaction going wrong, its not your fault if he didnt follow the instructions and answer the questions clearly, anyhow you forgive him, and resent the money, all he has to do is fill in the forms himself, but this time also print them out so you can fax them over to them yourself to verify he gets it right this time.

after this theres always mo ney gr am hehehe

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:42 pm

Lovely work, Monsignor.
This is clearly a pet worth rewarding ocasionally.
Have you considered sending it a laptop via a trusted shipping firm?

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:01 pm

^^^ D11: He has tried MoneyGram (see his forms at top) but he got a Form with the MTCN obscured:

^^^ psychicbait: Funny, I was thinking about this:

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:26 pm

Just in. Cheeky *******

Quote:

Good Day How are you doing today?

I receive your mail, i try it several times but the payment slip didn't came out. Then i took it to the bank and complain to them, they also tried it answering questions up to about 40 mins, and nothing still came out. I told them you tried it and you received your money, so they confirm that it is the connection of this country, that the server is different from yours in your country.

So we cannot access the payment here accept in your country or other country which have different IP connections. So my dear friend to make this transfer a reality, you have to answer it your self with you computer server so that the result can come out.

You know that i have tried my possible best for the transfer, but you still have to help me to make sure this transfer is easy for us. Even the bank still insist you to do it your self, then you will send me the WU payment receipt so that we can confirm it and transfer your loan to you.

And also as soon you send me the payment receipt, i am going to send you the deposit slip of your loan to guaranteed you again that your loan is secure and ready for transfer. So act fast and get back to me with the payment receipt attached to me.

Have a nice day and God bless you.

Regards, Mr Jackson Fred MD/CEO.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

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Then i took it to the bank and complain to them, they also tried it answering questions up to about 40 mins

I think your lad is telling you a wee fibber there and needs a stern talking to.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:13 pm

Lad wrote:

i have stress my self up a whole day doing nothing just because if this transfer.

This is music to my ears Thumbs up

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm

Excellent work, Monsignor. I'll bet he will go a little further on SS if you push him.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:21 pm

^^^ Thank you all for your kind comments and suggestions. I'm pushing him to persevere with SS. We will have to see.

Whatever happens, I doubt that I'll get anywhere near pushing Mr Skinner off the top spot in the SS rankings!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:44 pm

If they get to the absolute end of the rope with SS then you can try something else. Maybe go to a nearby town to do the transfer and send him to mtcns3cure or mtcnv@ult. These are a couple other websites baiters have created to give your lad some pain and misery. I like to have lads try all 3 to see which one they really excel at Twisted Evil

Great baiting, I love to see lads rolling over in agony Razz

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:02 pm

^^^ Many thanks. I have been using MTCN S£cure for some time, and more recently the Vault. However, my Lads have never lingered long in either.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:55 am

Well, I pushed him and he has reluctantly spent a further 2 hrs 49 mins in Security Shield

Quote:

Session starttime: 2011-07-01 21:36:54(GMT-7)
Session endtime: 2011-07-02 00:26:20(GMT-7)
Answers: 92

Q: Have you used Secure Shield service before?
A: No i have never used Shield before
Q: If you answered yes to previous question, how many times?
A: I have never use it at all
Q: Have you received other type of electronic transfers before?
A: No i have never receive any type of electronic transfers before?
Q: Why are you receiving these funds?
A: I am receiving these funds in agreement binding the transaction of me and Mr Mongoiur
Q: Are the funds you intend to receive related to any criminal activity?
A: No they are not related to any criminal activity
Q: Will the funds you receive be used for any criminal activities?
A: No will not be used for any criminal activities
Q: Do you have criminal record or are you being investigated for any crime?
A: No i have no criminal record and have not being investigated for any crime
Q: Do you know anyone who is connected to organized crime?
A: No i have no one who is connected to organized crime
Q: Do you know anyone who is being investigated for a crime?
A: No i know of no one who is being investigated for a crime
Q: Do you know anyone who has been convicted for a crime?
A: No i don't know of anyone who has been convicted for a crime
Q: Do you always lock your house? How about your car?
A: That is if i am not at home or in the car
Q: How did war change you?
A: War did not change any of me
Q: Have you ever been taught about AIDS or HIV infection in school?
A: Yes i have been taught about AIDS or HIV infection in school
Q: Have you ever been taught about AIDS or HIV infection in school?
A: Yes i have been taught about AIDS or HIV infection in school
Q: Do you like to travel by airplane?
A: Yes i like to travel by airplane
Q: During the past 30 days, how did you usually get the alcohol you drank?
A: i have never involve my self drinking alcohol
Q: If you were given the choice of latching a small crocodile or vice grips to your neather regions, which would you prefer? Explain you answer:
A: I have no ideal about this
Q: How many rolls of film do you need developed?
A: I have zero rolls of film do you need developed
Q: When was the last time you did cocaine?
A: I have no connection with cocaine
Q: Did you ever get divorced? Can you tell me about it?
A: No i have never get divorced
Q: What other fields or work will that job make you qualified for?
A: Depends on my own interest if i search for one
Q: How old were you when you smoked a whole cigarette for the first time?
A: I have never in my life smoke cigarett
Q: What animal is mentioned most frequently in both the New and Old Testaments?
A: I can lie because i know not about this
Q: What was the name of your first pet?
A: I only have one pet till now which is my wife Sarah Jackson
Q: What should be done with obese people who practically take up two seats?
A: I personally believe that if this is the case these people should be forced to buy two seats or have an added charge placed on their account.
Q: Who is the breadwinner (provider) in your family?
A: Which is my youngest daughter
Q: Are you afraid of scary movies?
A: I not even time time watching movies, when i have business transaction on my desk
Q: Last food that you ate?
A: i ate rice and stew
Q: Aliens from others worlds visit our planet, would you recognize one if you saw it? What would give it away?
A: I don't think i would recognize them
Q: If so, what are they?
A: That is if i have know them
Q: Have you played quija? Why or why no? Would you play?
A: I have neverf play quija, and cannot imagine myself playing that game
Q: Do you like yourself?
A: yes i like myself
Q: If you were marooned on a desert island with one other person how would you survive?
A: I don't know how i will survive, because i have never been to a desert before
Q: Which reggae singing star died 11th May 1981?
A: To my own knowdege Nesta Robert "Bob" Marley died 11th May 1981
Q: During the past 30 days, did you exercise to lose weight or to keep from gaining weight?
A: I lost weight because of my stress of work
Q: Did you ever think of getting divorced?
A: No i never think of getting divorced
Q: Where did they work and why did they volunteer?
A: They work in different places and volunteer base on their own interest
Q: Ever loved someone so much it made you cry?
A: I have never loved someone so much it made you cry
Q: Do you ever have nightmares (bad dreams)?
A: Yes about mu friend
Q: Are you afraid of giving a speech in public?
A: No i am never afraid of giving a speech in public
Q: For which fruit is the US state of Georgia famous?
A: I know of Peach
Q: Do you think the Internet favors men or women?
A: Yes i thing the Internet favors both
Q: Do you own a car?
A: Yes i own a car
Q: If you think the government should give money, how much do you think should be given?
A: Due to their own interest of work
Q: Do you think the government should give money to homeless people?
A: yes i think the government should give money to homeless people
Q: Who was the first pope?
A: The first pope was St. Peter
Q: Do you think we can feel if a ghost is near by us by the changes in the weather?
A: I not think so, and don't believe that
Q: What other language would you like to speak?
A: My mother tongue which is yoruba
Q: Can you think of some things children do that annoy adults around them?
A: i don't know of them, because i have never over one
Q: During the past 30 days, on how many days did you smoke cigarettes?
A: I have never smoke cigarettes
Q: How do you react when you see something frightening?
A: I will act so negatively
Q: Do you wanna be rich and/or famous?
A: i want to be famous
Q: Which hills divide England from Scotland?
A: The hills is CHEVIOTS
Q: How about others in your family?
A: They are all fine and working hard
Q: Would you like to do the same job for the rest of your life?
A: Yes if God say so
Q: What was your favorite game when you were a child?
A: the game of foothball
Q: Have you ever had anything stolen?
A: Yes if i can still remember
Q: Do you think a motorcycle rider be required to wear a helmet?
A: Yes it is very necessary for a motorcycle ride to wear a helmet
Q: Have you ever witnessed a crime?
A: No i have never
Q: Do you remember any songs that you used to sing to her/him? Can you sing them now?
A: I cannot remember
Q: Has anyone ever told you how much of a complete imbecile you have been in the past?
A: No no one have ever told me how much of a complete imbecile i have been in the past
Q: How do you feel when someone has been dishonest with you?
A: I will feel so upset
Q: Should anybody be allowed to go to this place?
A: If they choose to and if i know the place you are talking about
Q: What is the national game of the Basques?
A: The Basque national game is pelote
Q: Have you ever slapped someone?
A: No i have never any one
Q: Do you believe in witches why or why not.
A: I believe they are witches base on technology and for evil
Q: Are you annoyed when your partner/husband/wife flirts with someone else ?
A: Yes i am annoyed
Q: Are you afraid of ghosts?
A: No i am not afraid of ghosts
Q: Do you like to travel by airplane?
A: Yes i like to travel by airplane
Q: Are there certain weather conditions that scare people? What are they?
A: I only know of thunder storm and lightening
Q: 3 things you really don?t envy from the opposite sex.
A: Neither one of them
Q: Have you ever smoked cigarettes daily, that is, at least one cigarette every day for 30 days?
A: No i have never smoke cigarettes
Q: What are some common jobs for women in your country?
A: model is one of them
Q: What is your ethnic background?
A: my enthic backgroud is E. Ebira – an ethnic minority group based in North Central Nigeria
Q: If you could change one thing in the world, what would it be?
A: I would have everyone live up to their full potential. A lot of people waste their talent
Q: What are some things people can do to eliminate discrimination and prejudice?
A: The best way is to interact with the people whom you are prejudice
Q: What are some situations that cause PTSD?
A: Various traumatic situations which can cause PTSD
Q: Does it upset you when you see pictures of famines in India, Africa etc.?
A: I don't even have time watching India pictures
Q: Have you seen all the Rocky movies?
A: No i have not
Q: Do you have a part-time job? If so, what do you do?
A: No i have no part-time job
Q: How many jobs have you had?
A: only this job one job i have ever had
Q: How do you know that a tsunami is going to hit soon?
A: this is sort of dream/vision/prophecy ... As we all know, a large underwater earthquake could trigger a tsunami.
Q: Who has been the kindest to you in your life?
A: My mother has been the kindest to me in your life
Q: When should we seek professional counseling help?
A: Professional counselors offer the caring, expert assistance that we often need during these stressful times
Q: What in Cornwall is the most southerly point of mainland Britain?
A: the most southerly point of mainland Britain which i know is the Lizard Pont
Q: Who was the first prime minister of Israel?
A: David Ben-Gurion is the first prime minister of Israel
Q: Should children be entered into beauty pageants?
A: In the end the children can't handle it, they think when they lose, they have let mommy down
Q: If you answered yes to previous question, how many times?
A: It is the high competitiveness is what is so bad
Q: What is the best thing about the Internet?
A: The Best Thing On The Internet Right Now recently for their attitudinal apparel
Q: Are there any jobs which can only be done by one gender?
A: There are definitely some jobs that only a man or a woman can do, and more where gender is a consideration that is valid in whether the person can do the job (but is not determinative), but those are very rare.
Q: Have you overcome any of your fears?
A: Yes i have overcome it
Q: What political issue stirred you the most?
A: For me,personally it was Abu Gharib in 2004

As a result, he is scorching with anger and frustration and tells me this is the end:

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Hello Mr XXXXXX,

I have been answering the questions, i have answered almost 125 questions and it took me back to the first page to restart, you can confirm it how many questions i have answered. I am really tried of this security shield. Like me tell Mr XXXXXX, don't ever ask me to answer any more question again. Maybe you think that i am really in need of your money, i was only giving this help because i want you to receive your loan.

So if you cannot answer it your self please forget about this transaction.

Have a nice day.

Maybe this really is the end of the road for us, unless.....

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:22 pm

But a check with SS revealed that he had almost completed the process when he quit. Just a few more questions & he would have had the mtcn. Laughing

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:31 pm

^^^ Mr Skinner, you are certainly an expert at encouraging Scammers to use Security Shield! HOW did you get your Lad Anthony to sit at his PC, logged into that site for 115 sessions and answer a staggering 5632 questions?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:31 pm

I can't say there is any secret to it. That lad you mentioned was probably one in a million. He also took 2 safaris.

I bait quite a few lads on any given day so some are bound to capitulate. Many give up. I usually start off giving them a fake mtcn then claim it was chopped so a safer method of transfer must be employed. I've found that when lads are expecting a large sum of money they are more likely to sit and answer the questions. It is best to find a lad who has a computer at home to give him time to make a fool of himself. Other than that, hold your ground and refuse to use any other means than SS.

Here is a note from my latest lad:

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I try to compete the proceess in ortheter to collect the mtcn but i could not succeed.I have filed 100 time and the result is still not vyet complete.

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