Battle for Photo ID/Passport

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:58 pm

This bait started around Jan 9th.

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80.87.72.6 Ghana Telecom 77.250.14.92 Amsterdam

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Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 03:06:48 +0300 (EAT)
From: "Mr. Peter Lee" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]

Dear Friend,
I am Mr. Peter Lee a South Korean, happily married with children, and
i am a Director of Hang Seng Bank Ltd, in charge of the International
Remittance department. I have a confidential business of 22.5 million
dollars for you,
Please endeavour to reply me if interested [email protected]
Thanks,
Best Regard,
Mr. Peter Lee.

There was a "tell me more letter" which only contained "tell me more" and Peter followed with a very lengthy letter.

From Arthur Q. xxxxxxxxxx
To: Peter Lee

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Dear Peter,

I am in receipt of your lengthy letter. (I lost the lengthy letter)

I am an investment counselor for very wealthy people and point out to them investments which would fit their portfolio. I am also a lawyer.

First and foremost, the state in which I practice requires me to have potential clients complete an investment questionnaire before I can open a file. The federal government of my country also requires me to follow the Red Flags Rule which President Obama signed back in December 2010.

Therefore I am attachment a copy of the questionnaire which is to be completed in your own handwriting, and in accordance with the Red Flags Rule I will require a copy of your photo identification. Upon receipt of these items I can lawfully open a client file.

In the interim:

1.Your full names - Said information is above in my letterhead

2.Your contact address - Said information is above in my letterhead

3.Your company's or present employers name and address - I own my own company/business.

4.Your company's or present employers web page - We do not have a website

5.Your occupation - Investment counselor and lawyer

6.Your age - 67

7. Which area of business do you think is viable in your city / state / country, that we can invest all or part of our share of this deal into? I prefer to have my clients invest in properties in the UK, particulary retirement home villages

Do you have an international travelling passport?. Have you traveled outside your country before before? Travel is restricted due to confinement in a wheelchair, although I have in years before traveled internationally. Many years ago as a young US sailor I was in Hong Kong.

To Mr Lee:

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Sir:

I forgot to attach the form which my state requires potential clients and partners to complete before opening a file. I have attached it now.

Also I must advise you that I am confined to a wheelchair and do not travel internationally and have no passport and needless to say being confined to a wheelchair I cannot drive and have not driving permit. Also the USA does not have national ID cards nor work permits in my state are necessary.

Response: from:peterlee

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Dear Partner,

Thanks for the information you sent to me. All that is
left now is for you to send me a scanned copy of your international
passport or valid driving license.
My lawyer needs is to process the valid documents that will make
the bank where the US $25.5Million recognize you as the next of kin to Mr.
Aziz Musa Numan and get the funds transferred to you. Please send
the scanned copy of your international passport, or valid driving license or
your working identity to me as soon as possible.
Thanks and God bless you.

Mr. Peter Ting Chang Lee.

From Mr. Lee:

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SCANNED A COPY OF YOUR WORKING IDENTITY TO ME, IF REALLY YOU ARE SERIOUS TO BE PARTNER WITH ME FOR THIS FUNDS

To Mr. Lee:

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Sir:

Do you not read English?

Do you not read what I write to you?
". . .the USA does not have national ID cards." We do not have work permits either.

I also told you I did not have a passport as I am handicapped to a wheelchair and cannot travel internationally due to my disability.

Now, if you are to business with me you need to complete the financial assessment questionnaire I sent to you. Attached is another copy.

From Mr. Lee:

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Are you telling me that you are not recognise in USA? common image in usa have an identity card.

From Arthur:

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I am telling that I am wheelchair bound and do not travel internationally and therefore do not have a passport.

Since I cannot drive I have no driving permit.

In the USA we do not have National ID cards. There is no true national identity card in the United States of America, in the sense that there is no federal agency with nationwide jurisdiction that directly issues such cards to all American citizens for mandatory regular use.

The only national identity card is the US passport which is issued to U.S. citizens only upon voluntary application.

Only permanent resident aliens have work permits in the USA these are called "green cards". I am a US citizen thusly I do not need a work permit also called a green card.

My other licenses (law, investment) do not have photo identification on them.

I am recognized in the USA as a licensed lawyer and investment counselor; however those licenses do not contain pictures of the licensee.

You have incorrect information as to identity cards in the USA. All this information is available on the internet for verification.

So I guess the deal is off.

From Peter again:

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SCANNED A COPY OF YOUR WORKING IDENTITY TO ME, IF REALLY YOU ARE SERIOUS TO BE PARTNER WITH ME FOR THIS FUNDS

From Arthur:

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Look, buddy, I told you I have no passport since I do not travel internationally. What part of I don't have a passport do you not understand?

If he cannot fill out the questionnaire, then he is not getting any photo ID (which I wouldn't send anyway!)

here · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:19 pm

what a twonk Rolling Eyes

never had one so obstinate (so far), mostly I ignore the request and eventually they can't resist moving to the next part of the script

will be interesting to see if your lad can resist Cool

insults and more · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:06 pm

This is a great modality for avoiding sending documents! I wish I had thought of it.

The best part is that this is tailor-made for use by elderly characters.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:15 pm

^^^ leon, more tailor made for the elderly is the use of the TTY phone.

I told one lad that I was hearing impaired and could only use the TTY phone that the hearing disabled used.

Whereupon he wrote back that he had TTY access! "Oh, crap" I muttered to myself.

Then emailed him back and said the TTY computer/phone accidentally got knocked the desk and it was broken til I can afford to get it fixed.

(I used to be an AT&T relay operator for the hearing impaired so I know how the TTY service works)

A number of my characters, esp. the lawyers, are handicapped (wheelchair, hearing impaired, very arthritic, et al) so they don't travel internationally, don't drive, can't use a regular phone.

Hey, leon, I am old so I can think of a hundred reasons for not traveling, etc.!!! Laughing

There is always surgeries, heart attacks, dementia, or the elderly spouse's infirmities are an impediment to travel, driving, et al

here · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:29 pm

one of my main characters lives in France where it is a criminal offence to scan your ID card Wink

no lad has called me on that one yet Cool

otherwise the 'bad passport scan' inflated to 10Mb tends to encourage them to give up after a few failed attempts Wink

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:30 pm

Well, well, well, the battle is over and I won!

Just got this email: (my bolding)

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Dear Partner Mr. Arthur Q. Lawless,
Your mail was well without the copies of your identity for which we thank you. We write to confirm that we have received your mail and glad that you have given us . We are also very pleased with your total commitment to this business venture, we assures you that ALL of your efforts will be handsomely rewarded very soon.

We will pay our Hong-Kong probate lawyer an initial deposits of the equivalent of about US$30,000{Thirty Thousand U.S Dollars} by Monday 17th January, 2011 and we shall pay him the balance sum of the equivalent sum of US$20,000 immediately he has gotten the relevant and official documents from the government agencies in charge. These documents which must be produced before our bank board can approves this payment/transfer of US$25.5Million in your name and favour are as follows: -

1.A certified True copy of the death certificate of Mr. Musa Numan who is the funds depositor, who unfortunately died in Tsunami disaster in Asia http://www.freewebs.com/asiadisaster/ in the 2004 An Iraqis

2. A letter of administration which must be issued by the Hong-Kong probate department in your name as the administrator of the estate of the Late Mr. Aziz Musa Numan, thus making you the legal next-of-kin.

3.A copy of the certificate of deposit which was issued to the now Late Mr. Aziz Musa Numan, this certificate was issued by our bank to him have the original copy with me, which he gave me for safe keeping as his account officer before his sudden death.

When these documents are submitted, our bank board will take a look at them and approves the payment through our European correspondent bank in Holland-Netherlands, as contained in the articles of the deposit by the funds depositor.

It is important that you check on me by way of e-mail to know daily updates, and we will appreciates that you reply our mails as quickly as possible, since we are avoiding the use of direct phone contact for obvious security reasons, since China is still a communist country.

We awaits your e-mail now that you fully understands these steps/or ask us for whatever you feel is not clear to you.
Thanks.

Mr. Peter Ting Chang Lee.
Hang Seng Bank Limited (Hong-Kong)
83 Des Voeux Road Central
Hong Kong SAR
Web Page: -- www.hangseng.com

He wants me to check with him daily??????? I have a law practice to run and not email him every 24 hours! Geesh!

here · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:22 am

well done

the cynic in me thinks this is because passport scans don't buy beer, women and bling Wink

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:35 pm

^^^^ Thanks.

I have had it with some of my investment lads so instead of "professionally" responding, I have hit the senility stage and have been responding i.e. who in blue blazes are you and why are you bothering me, why should I send money to someone I don't know. Taking a page from leon here Laughing

Waiting to hear from them.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:59 pm

Very good. You wore him down!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:32 pm

I never sent him any ID, but this is what I received this a.m......I did win this battle!

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:33 pm

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:57 pm

@ baitmyhook

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one of my main characters lives in France where it is a criminal offence to scan your ID card

Well, all EC passports contain a chip (true). This is detected by the scanner, which places a code on the scan file. This code triggers Government monitors which then block the attachment. Your attachment states THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN FOUND TO CONTAIN AN ILLEGAL TRANSMISSION. iT IS ILLEGAL TO TRANSMIT PASSPORTS AND OTHER PERSONAL ID INFORMATION. THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN BLOCKED BY HM GOVERNMENT/ THE FBI/INTERPOL ANTI-FRAUD UNIT ... or anyone else you like.

Works a treat, the more lads know about it the better!

here · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:54 am

^^^^^^^^^^
love it, I know a lad who's getting that message on Monday Cool

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:23 pm

Well, this chap is a hard headed one. He is back with his identify proof again.

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Dear Arthur xxxxxxx,

I am sorry for the bad news that your office got burnt. We thank God for what did not take our life. May God replenish you to as enable you putting every of these damages from the fire to be well restruction again.

Please if really you are interested to help me secure this 25.5 million dollars into the care of your account in your country, do try and send me any of your identity that has your passport photo so that it can be use by my lawyer here to make every backup of those documents in your name favour. Thanks.

Mr. Peter T.C Lee.

So blisteringly I respond:

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Dear Mr. Lee:

I thought we have been through this identity issue before.

I am handicapped and therefore do not travel internationally and have no passport.

I am handicapped and therefore do not drive and have no driving license.

My country does not issue national identity cards; therefore I have no identity card.

Even my birth certificate has not photo of me as an infant.

My library card does not have a photo on it.

My law license does not have a photo on it.

Now please read your own words which you wrote to me and I have highlighted them for your edification:

Dear Partner Mr. Arthur Q. Lawless,
Your mail was well without the copies of your identity for which we thank you. We write to confirm that we have received your mail and glad that you have given us . We are also very pleased with your total commitment to this business venture, we assures you that ALL of your efforts will be handsomely rewarded very soon.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:43 pm

He's baaaaaack!

Remember him saying:

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Dear Partner Mr. Arthur Q.XXXXXXX
Your mail was well without the copies of your identity for which we thank you. We write to confirm that we have received your mail and glad that you have given us . We are also very pleased with your total commitment to this business venture, we assures you that ALL of your efforts will be handsomely rewarded very soon.

Guess he had a change of heart:

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Dear Arthur xxxxxx,

This is only first truth and confident i suppose to have on you that you will not betrayed me after the money has be transferred to your account, and you are not willing to send your personal identity to me, which mean you can decide to betrayed me without anything that I can use to look for you when you do. You have making me to be doubt of you.

Even Road side lawyers have identity card, I am very much guess of yours if really you work in a firm. Please without any of your identity I am not sure if I will proceed with you. Thanks.

Mr. Peter T.C Lee.

He got my dander up and everyone knows to not get a red head's dander up (well former red head - now a tad gray but a red head at heart) So I wrote him a terse letter:

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Well, sir, then I do not know what to tell you. You can search the internet and find out that I am telling the truth. It is you, sir, you do not know the truth of how the American government and its various states work. There are many people in this country who have no passport, have no driving license or national id card because there is no national id card in the US.

So you are saying that a picture of me will prove to you I am truthful? And an ID picture of you makes you truthful? The truth of the matter is that pictures don't prove shit.

How do I know that the ID you sent me is actually you? I don't know that. It could be some fake, made up ID.

I could make up some fake passport and send you and you would not know for a fact that it is me.

Your one email said that we could proceed without my identifying papers. Thus, you lied in that email. Therefore, how can I trust you.

In your email you sent me a link to a website. http://www.freewebs.com/asiadisaster/
Now I am not stupid. freewebs.com is a site where any huckster can make up a website. And you have the audacity to say I am a liar. You, sir, are the fraudster.

A "roadside lawyer"? What is that? Like an "ambulance chaser" lawyer? Or maybe a "jailhouse lawyer"?

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