Lad ringing me , but I never gave out a phone number.

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Master Baiter Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 100

Hi, got a gold lad who has been ringing me on 2 numbers but getting through to answering machines. Interesting thing is that I never gave him a phone number. Two possiblitis exist. He's mixed me up with a real victim, in which case I need to use these two phone numbers to contact him or one of us has given him bullshit numbers. I think the latter is more likely so does anyone recognise the below numbers (Iasked him to send them to confirm they were my correct numbers)

714.396.9714
714.991.5101

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:32 pm

Do you run several baits at the moment and have given another lad your numbers? You might have contacted the the same lad (who uses another addy) with another bait from your same baiting account - though it would be a huuuuuge coincidence.

Or are these your real life numbers?

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 77

khawk wrote:

Hi, got a gold lad who has been ringing me on 2 numbers but getting through to answering machines. Interesting thing is that I never gave him a phone number. Two possiblitis exist. He's mixed me up with a real victim, in which case I need to use these two phone numbers to contact him or one of us has given him bullshit numbers. I think the latter is more likely so does anyone recognise the below numbers (Iasked him to send them to confirm they were my correct numbers)

714.396.9714
714.991.5101

Well, they're Orange County Phone #'s (that's where I live) - but I don't recognize them - did you try googling them?

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:05 pm

As this is so creepy, I keep thinking about it:
Have you been the target of an intended scam before - e.g. Craigslist - and have given out those numbers before you realized it was a scam? And are you baiting with that old real life address?

Master Baiter Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 100

No, I don't think you have it right. I have never seen these numbers before. I certainly haven't given any numbers to any lad before. The lad must have mixed me up with another victim. The lad is insisting I gave him these numbers but it's bullshit. I'm not sure exactly what is going on. Are they the numbers of a victim and should I ring and warn this victim or is there a motivation that i 'm not getting? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:03 pm

What you are saying is, that the lad said he has been trying to call you, and that these numbers are the ones he tried to reach you at? And that you have never given him any phone numbers at no point, and that you have no idea who the numbers belongs to?

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 50

They're both numbers related to "Club Ember" in Anaheim CA:

http://www.emberofanaheim.com/contact-us/
http://www.georgedelavega.com/index.html

I think your lads BS'ng you

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:40 pm

It looks like both numbers lead to the same guy. See:

http://www.georgedelavega.com/index.html for 714.396.9714

and

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/zip/2116604122.html as well as http://www.emberofanaheim.com/contact-us/ for 714.991.5101

The address looks legit. The night club shows up on Google Earth.

ETA: Ninja'd by candy-factory. Thanks.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:01 pm

As others have shown, it appears your lad is just BS'ing you in this case. Tell him you have no idea what he is talking about and you never gave him those numbers. Ask him if he is sharing this private transaction he is having with you with others and tell him you are concerned he might not be serious. Wink

khawk wrote:

Are they the numbers of a victim and should I ring and warn this victim ...

Obviously not needed in this case, but for future reference, if you ever believe you have real vic information or possible vic/mule information, please don't try to email or phone them yourself. Simply pass the information on to a mod here on Eater and they will take it over to ScamWarners and an experienced scam warner can warn, if needed. Very Happy

Master Baiter Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 100

Yes, thedane. You have it right! Sorry if I was not clear in my first post. Thank you all for your advice. I thought it was a strange turn in an otherwise straight bait. I accept it's probably bullshit and have learned a lot about tracking down phone numbers. I'm amazed that that is possible because it isn't allowed to create any software to give a name and address from a phone number. I am also wondering what's the lad's motivation or endgame in this?

Baiting Guru Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 4747

I think he’s BSing you but, if you baited a mugu properly don’t be surprised if he comes at you with different characters and email addys. If everything is constant with your Character you be surprised how hooked the mugu will become as time goes on.

419Eater is my life Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 327

I agree with telling the lad that you wonder if you're not the only one he is doing this transaction with. You don't want anyone getting your money, of course.
The lad could also be trying to get you to give him your number. Maybe he thinks you will say, "No, those are not my numbers. My number is_______"

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:17 am

I always bait safe, even when I don't. Wink

If you are et all worried about it, just drop him and pick it up from a different address. You are using gmail, or some other way to mask your IP address right? Otherwise, its not a stretch to use any geoip site to get an estimate of your general location, then get any random # from that area and make a claim, such as your lad is giving you.

That the numbers are in your area, would to a victim, seem to lend credibility to the scammer's claim that you gave him these numbers. Perhaps he confused them or got them wrong when you gave them, a real victim would simply correct the numbers, I believe.

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