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llamedos
Been There, Done That
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:20 pm |
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This lad is running a trunk box scam, and is based in Egypt.
He has made mention of the fact that he is a Muslim and is from Sudan (after handing the box to me, he intends to "flee to his homeland of Sudan").
Anyway, in trying to convince me that he is above board he has made the following 'quote' (bold is mine)
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i am telling you the truth is you send me this money walahi bi lahi every thing will be done. |
From a bit of Internet digging, it would appear that this is an oath made on Allahs name, and for a Muslim to break it is a strict no-no.
However, I don't think this 'lad quote' is completely accurate.
Which begs the question: is this lad a 'real' Muslim and if so, is there anyway I can play this against him?
'Yamin ghamus' perhaps?
N.B. We're all sensible here, so let's not turn this into a "Bash the Muzzy" thread ok?
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Alejandro
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Joined: 12 Nov 2010
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Location: Japan
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Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:39 pm |
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No, he probably isn't. I just had a lad/laddette (playing as a girl anyway) from Sudan claiming to be a muslim but trying to get me in the sack, despite the fact I'm married with 4 children. She would open every e-mail with praises to Allah and would swear things. A true devout Muslim would not say such things. |
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Morgain Le Fay
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Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:42 pm |
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One of the first things I learned in baiting is that lads lie.
This lad may not be a practicing Muslim and just using the words. If he were a practicing Muslim he would know that if he declared such an oath and not keep it he would have to be paying poor people a certain amount of money for atonement.
The Yamin ghamus injected into your reply might be a good idea. Myself, I would try it.
Actually there are many different kinds of oaths in Islam and there are different nuances in their oaths, probably depending if he is Muslim to which sect he belongs if he is indeed Muslim. |
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Mjwoody
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:08 pm |
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Have you already committed to being of a religion other than Islam? If not, you can also claim to be muslim to him. I believe that hey are allowed to lie to any other religion, under Sharia law. |
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N N N
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:17 pm |
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You've done a reverse IP lookup on his emails of course ... and he's in Egypt for sure? I'd be surprised. |
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Mr Tambourine Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:28 pm |
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Some lads are genuinely religious and are able to reconcile Christianity with scamming. I can see no reason for some Islamic scammers not to feel the same. |
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wowwow
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Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:07 pm |
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^^ Yes everybody is human and everybody lies sometime or another. IMO all religions are a big bunch of lies anyway!
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llamedos
Been There, Done That
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:09 pm |
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N N N wrote: |
You've done a reverse IP lookup on his emails of course ... and he's in Egypt for sure? I'd be surprised. |
He's definitely in Egypt - the lads "security company" is based in Cairo
IP = 41.130.44.199
Alleged address:
NO 251 REHERB ROAD CAIRO EGYPT
TEL+20117593244
Plus I got a piggy out of him to a Cairo bank
He doesn't understand Arabic - I've sent him these as email subjects:
لا يكون لديك فكرة عما يقول هذا ، هل
= You haven't a clue what this says, do you
كنت حقا احمق وأمك ينام مع الماعز
= you really are an idiot and your mother sleeps with goats
No reaction.
(I took them from an online translator, so likely not that accurate, but he should get the gist..!)
However he did get upset when I called him a "small boi"
I'm almost certain that he's a Muslim Nigerian (~50% of the population are Muslim), so an oath on Allah (as far as the lad is concerend) is 'permissable', but as has been pointed out, it's all a matter of devoutness*
*which is about to be tested... |
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Barrister Addo Williams: I want you to know that I am not impressed with your performance towards this project.
Mattins Wilson: ...and they stated morken me and tarfing at me as if am a full, so please it is enough OK. /AND/ I promise you for all this furffring that you are furffring to me <--- No, I haven't a clue either
Peter Ovdo: I want you to have trust in me that all is ok as stated in my last mail to you which i wrote in big letters
Ethel Gnassingbe: FOUK YOU AND GO TO HELL
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sunshine
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Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:42 pm |
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Mjwoody wrote: |
Have you already committed to being of a religion other than Islam? If not, you can also claim to be muslim to him. I believe that hey are allowed to lie to any other religion, under Sharia law. |
Not strictly true. It's called taqiyya and it's a dispensation that allows you to lie and say that you're not a muslim (or that you are a muslim of a different sect) to protect your life if under threat of persecution. It isn't a blanket "you can lie" get out clause. |
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Badgerbait
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:25 pm |
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If any wahabism (fundementalist views) is involved, the assumption they are entitled to lie to kuffir (infidel) and dhimmi (conquered peoples living under protection) exists. Being a lad, he has no clue anyway, no doubt. |
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N N N
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:13 pm |
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sunshine wrote: |
It isn't a blanket "you can lie" get out clause. |
Don't let the NRA hear you say that! |
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Badgerbait
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:27 pm |
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Easy on the politique... |
_________________ I have arrived in Moscow. Has gone to bank and to me have told that there is no such transfer for me!!!!
What does it mean? You played with me? If it so that you very much the cruel man and I am assured of that that the god will see your cruelty.
Explain to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Alena Byk0va
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We are Karma's soldiers.
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I must be cruel, only to be kind:
Thus bad begins and worse remains behind. -Hamlet, scene iv
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