Gold Dust - How would the scam likely pan out?

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Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 31

Hi. I am currently baiting a lad, who claims to be selling gold dust.

The minimum purchase is pretty sizable (about $1.5 million), and he wants me to travel to pick up the gold.

Now, I am just wondering what the likely scam will be here, or whether this kind of thing evolves depending upon what the scammed person does.

The first mention of money has been to request that I send some to pay for visas fees.

Is it likely that it will only be that, or will that just be the first step? Would I, if I actually fell for the scam and followed it through, end up paying more and most fees, and then end up travelling to Africa and maybe getting kidnapped?

Just wondering how these things pan out.

Any input appreciated.

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:40 pm

A victim paying a fee will asked for more and more money.

A visa fee is easy to get around, just tell the lad that you contacted his country's consulate in your country and that you get a visa for half the price or maybe even free there.

You will of course ask for a sample, chances are that you don't get that. So you go ask for lab reports on the purity. There lots of stuff to ask a gold lad about Smile

Is this by any chance the Hens Betanay lad?

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

Visa fees will beget demourrage fees which will beget export fees which will beget legal fees which will beget stamp fees which will ...

I had a gold dust lad once. Instead of me coming to get the fees, I asked if he would help me smuggle out the gold and then we could split the profits. He went along at first as I promised to make a down payment for his smuggling efforts. I told him that we were going to build a zeppelin and float the gold across the Atlantic. He started to work with me but once I sent him the diagram he gave up. Wink

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 80

Where is this lad? I just finished a bait with one in Senegal, had "50KG of gold dust".

Here's his picture of the gold dust:

Here's the (long) discussion about whether my lad's photos were real of fake. General opinion: fake gold picture, real lad picture.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=190288

Happy baiting!

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:24 pm

JMRazor wrote:

... build a zeppelin and float the gold across the Atlantic... Wink

THAT would have been one hell of a trophy! Laughing

here · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:01 pm

MidlandBlue2010 wrote:

Hi. I am currently baiting a lad, who claims to be selling gold dust.

I got one, thought it would be quite boring but actually has provided quite a lot of fun

I am alternating between being a rich businessman who doesn't want to deal with small amounts to repeatedly slapping him for his incompetence

the DOCX contract problems lasted a whole week (as I couldn't open it could I?), then his email gateway removed the contract I sent him (not really of course but he fell for the text I inserted) , then I sent him my contract in a zip file which he couldn't open (strange huh?)

so that's wasted a few weeks

anyway he's getting a bit desperate now and bit on my offer of paying upfront for a sample shipment - he just quoted me costs for shipping via Air France it to a very small local airport with no scheduled services Wink

unfortunately he has sent me the invoice as a DOCX file, oh dear he just doesn't learn does he?

so next up more slaps for his hopeless computer skills whilst I send the account details to our friend Very Happy

what I liked about this was for a mining company they have a very wide range of things they dig out of the ground!
1. gold dust and bars
2. rough and uncut diamonds
3. copper scrap
4. drained battery scrap
5. aluminium scrap
6. hms1& 2

oh and he claims to be in Guinea Conkary but his IP is Kenya - well at least he is on the right continent, even if on the wrong side oops!

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:47 pm

^ drained battery scrap? what on earth is that? lead?

one dang wonderful mine he's got there.

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:00 pm

Just wanted to pop in and congratulate you for the 'best thread title ever' award.

419Eater is my life Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 375

JMRazor wrote:

He started to work with me but once I sent him the diagram he gave up. Wink

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that diagram would you? I'm sure it would provide great laughs. Smile

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:10 pm

Inspector Gadget wrote:

drained battery scrap? what on earth is that? lead?

That's the lead from batteries, without the sulphuric acid, that is - I think that mine is just a scrap heap somewhere Shocked

EDIT: The only item I know nothing about is hms1& 2 - Would that be Her Majesty's Ship and both of them? - There must be a bargain there Laughing

here · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:03 pm

Chuda, the killer cat wrote:

EDIT: The only item I know nothing about is hms1& 2 - Would that be Her Majesty's Ship and both of them? - There must be a bargain there Laughing

I wish!

unfortunately not, AFAIK - HMS stands for 'heavy melting scrap'. HMS 2 contains galvanized and blackened steel whereas HMS 1 doesn't.

EDIT: forgot to mention that his invoice (that I can't open obviously) has a classic PS mistake - he's pasted in an official stamp, unfortunately without trimming the image so some white paper is partially covering the handwritten date - sigh - my 10 year son could do better Rolling Eyes

anyway more fun for @l@n and his friends

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:34 pm

Is that a pun? "pan out"? panning for gold?? nyuk,nyuk.
Any odds of getting the lad to travel?

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:10 am

Can't have talk of Gold Dust without reference to the wrestler.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 31

Brainiac wrote:

Is that a pun? "pan out"? panning for gold?? nyuk,nyuk.

As much as I would now like to take credit for it, it wasn't an intentional one! Smile

Brainiac wrote:

Any odds of getting the lad to travel?

I am trying to hatch a scheme to do exactly that. Although the lad is taking his time getting back to me.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:19 am

I love that gold dust picture. Looks like boxes of nuggets rather than gold dust. All you need is a leprechaun with a bad attitude to guard it.
This is what gold dust really looks like (just in case you didn't know, they obviously don't)

Stay away from me pan o' gold

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