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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:10 pm

I love it when a lad thinks they are going to be big, bad, and tough and try and control the scam and be a bully. Then you call their bluff and get ready to back out and work with another scammer (who you pretend to think is legit), and the original scammer comes crawling back! Very Happy

Example: This is a loan lad I am trying to get a trophy photo of. I am telling him that I sent the money through Western Union, but they require a security photo from the receiver of the money before the MTCN is activated. Here's the turn of power from him bullying me into him crawling back! Very Happy

Him:

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Dear Georg Stanley,

I gave you simple instructions on how you are to transfer the Insurance Fee to the person approved to receive the Insurance fee.

You came back asking me to send to you or western union my photograph with a sign what do you take me for,I only wanted to assist you,I have to fasten and enhance the process of your Loan Terms and Condition hoping to receiving from you details and your account information to enable us transfer your Loan to you. Why didn't you inform WESTERN UNION THAT YOU KNOW THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE SENDING THE PAYMENT TO ?

Asking me now what I am suppose to do ? I can't get the Loan now. Well Mr. George go back to Western Union and collect your money and whenever you are ready and able to transfer the fee to the person as approved your Loan will be transfer to you.

As for now stop sending me mail until you had a solution to that effect.

Have a nice day

Murray Jacklose

Me:

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I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL TODAY FROM ANOTHER COMPANY IN AFRICA THAT IS WILLING TO GIVE ME A LOAN TOO SO I WILL JUST USE THEM INSTEAD. I WILL GO BACK TO WESTERN UNION AND GET MY MONEY BACK AND THEN SEND IT TO THEM INSTEAD ONCE THEY DO THE SECURITY PHOTO. YOU CAN CLOSE MY LOAN APPLICATION WITH YOU GUYS THANKS

Him:

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ATTENTION: GEORGE,

YOU CAN GO AND GET ANOTHER LOAN FROM ANY COMPANY OF YOUR CHOICE OK, MORE ALSO THE HEADQUARTER IS LOCATED AT BATILMORE HERE IN UNITED KINGDM.

YOUR LOAN APPLICATION WILL BE CLOSE TODAY SINCE YOU HAD OFFICIALLY WRITTEN TO US,WE GIVE LOAN TO SERIOUS MINDED PEOPLE,COMPANY AND CHARITY ORGANIZATION FOR BETTER PURPOSE AND HOPE FOR REPAYMENT AT WHEN DUE.

SURE YOU CAN GO AND COLLECT YOU UNSENT MONEY THAT YOU HAD NOT PAID TO YOUR ACCOUNT.THINK OF WHAT YOU GO SEND IT TO THEM NOW. BETTER FOR YOU.

LOL

YOURS SINCERELY
MURRAY JACKLOSE

Me:

Quote:

I WILL DO THAT MURRAY. JUST A BIT OF ADVISE FOR YOUR COMPANY. IF YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE OVERSEAS YOU SHOULD PROBABLY ADOPT THEIR POLICIES LIKE THE SECURITY PHOTO REQUIREMENTS FOR MONEY SENDING. GOOD DAY

Him:

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Dear George Stanley,

You don't seems to understand the content of my email. I have called Helene and Ameh J. Baker here in London if it's possible for them to have their phot send as instructed by you.
I receive response from them that it's not logical that Western Union Money Transfer Agent asking for these details and that you should go and collect your money and try other Western Union Money Transfer Agent.

Please forgive me if I was that hash in my last email to you, It was't intentional, since you had informed me that you received from other company an offer that you wish to proceed with them I have no other options that to send such email to you after waiting and done my best to see that your Loan transfer to you before AfterNoon tomorrow Monday.
If it's possible for you to have the funds transfer to them in Nigeria without the photo let me know. If you had collected the funds from Western Union Money Transfer also let me know and your plans at the moment.ok

I am waiting for your kind response before I send to you final option as regard to this issue. Thanks for your understanding and Gof bless.

Murray Jacklose

Me:

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MURRAY GOING TO ANOTHER WESTERN UNION WON'T DO ANY GOOD BECAUSE THE WORKER TOLD ME HERSELF THAT IT'S A NEW POLICY ALL WESTERN UNIONS ARE ADOPTING TO PREVENT FRAUD. FRAUDSTERS ALWAYS REFUSE THE PHOTOS AND REAL BUSINESSES ALWAYS DO THEM, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAY. ANYWAYS I EXPLAINED THE WHOLE SECURITY PHOTO THING TO THE OTHER LOAN COMPANY AND THEY TOLD ME IT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM TO DO THE PHOTO ONCE I'VE SENT THE MONEY. THEIR INTEREST RATES WERE HIGHER THAN YOURS SO I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO USE YOu guys but since you won't do the security photo i will use the other company instead. if you were to do the security photo i would use you guys over them but since you won't i have no choice. i hope you understand now

Him:

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Dear George Stanley

I do not want you to think this is how our company does business with International Client ok.In your last email after reading it , I had inform Mr. Ameh J. Baker and Mrs. Helen Cruz about the present situation.

They responded that since you still have interest in the Loan and you quite ready to effect the Insurance Fee, I have instructed Mr. Ameh Baker to ensure that he sent to my office his photo Identification for Western Union Recognition to enable them release the payment.

If you are fine with this let me know and when you intend to go to western union with the picture for the release of the payment.
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NOTE:

We are sorry for the inconviniences that this may have cause you.
I await your urgent response.

Murray Jacklose

That's right "Murray".... don't forget who is in charge. Very Happy

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:54 pm

Nice work.
Off script is always a pleasure.
He belongs to you now... Very Happy

Edited for typo.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:08 pm

New scammer species

The Bully (Hectorus tohellicum): Lad who thinks they can bully you into getting you to send cash or to get out of providing trophies. But when slapped soon backs down.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:05 am

Quote:

Thanks for your understanding and Gof bless.

Who's Gof ??? Laughing

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:55 am

Quote:

SURE YOU CAN GO AND COLLECT YOU UNSENT MONEY THAT YOU HAD NOT PAID TO YOUR ACCOUNT.THINK OF WHAT YOU GO SEND IT TO THEM NOW. BETTER FOR YOU.

LOL

YOURS SINCERELY
MURRAY JACKLOSE

Love the "LOL." Laughing

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 160

Same here, my lad is not the dumbest in the world .. told him off by saying I'm about to do business with a gold supplier from Ghana so if he wants to finish our deal, he'd better hurry up for me. He made a U-turn and became all polite and nice.. lol

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:54 pm

Excellent "U Turns", Bait It Up and Popiejopie. clapping

419Eater is my life Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 366

@@!Bait It Up TWO POINTS

1) Got him off script
2) Lad is still talking with no hope of collecting

Well Done !! Twisted Evil

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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:38 pm

MORE ALSO THE HEADQUARTER IS LOCATED AT BATILMORE HERE IN UNITED KINGDM.

Yeah, that famous town of Balitmore in United Kingdm Wink

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:04 pm

Got this from my lad just yesterday, after he threatened to drop me for wasting time.

Quote:

Hello,
How are you doing today? I know today is Sunday.
I am very sorry,
I just came back from church today and my Pastor preach about forgiving and moving forward for the future is large and wide for a greater opportunities. I remembered my friendship with you and I realized you are a good friend. My relationship with you is transparent but people are trying to sabotage the love that is flowing between us.
Vix you are truely a friend, as I am typing these message tears are falling down my face. I am very sorry for making you delay work in your company, now I realized it is an insult to tell you that you are not serious.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:07 pm

Send him this.

I made it only once and used typical language.... And have used it at least 50 times!!

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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:07 pm

manbiteslion wrote:

MORE ALSO THE HEADQUARTER IS LOCATED AT BATILMORE HERE IN UNITED KINGDM.

Yeah, that famous town of Balitmore in United Kingdm Wink

Perfect New scammer species.

The Atlas (Nulgeographia tohellicum): Lad who claims to be from cities/towns that don't exist in the country he claims he is coming from. Might have trouble finding the Western Union.

BTW you should spell check that newspaper clipping, it might get past a lad but it won't get past me Wink

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:11 pm

Quote:

I just came back from church today and my Pastor preach about forgiving and moving forward for the future is large and wide for a greater opportunities. I remembered my friendship with you and I realized you are a good friend.

.. I wonder what this pastor is preaching in his sermon ... how the good Lord forgives those who scam others?

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 160

wowwow wrote:

Quote:

I just came back from church today and my Pastor preach about forgiving and moving forward for the future is large and wide for a greater opportunities. I remembered my friendship with you and I realized you are a good friend.

.. I wonder what this pastor is preaching in his sermon ... how the good Lord forgives those who scam others?

Should be:

"I just came back from church today and my pastor preach(ed) about giving and moving (finances) forward for the future".

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:12 pm

Still not entirely true.
Should be,
"Just came back from drinking cheap beer with scammer pals, and thought I should really get back to scamming people as I have no money and I owe my oga 100 Naira"

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:14 pm

wowwow wrote:

BTW you should spell check that newspaper clipping, it might get past a lad but it won't get past me Wink

Or me...

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:21 pm

^^^ That's the point. I put it in "lad speak." :p