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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Standard lad as diplomat scam. I can either have him deliver via diplomatic pouch, or I travel abroad to pick up consignment documents.

Proposed deal:

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When you are about to receive consignment, I will travel to meet with you and after you have received consignment and remark satisfactory, you can then deposit the sum into a holding account from where you shall disburse our share of 64% to us. You will have 31% as your share and 5% shall be used to pay back for all diplomatic delivery expenses, clearance documents and associated overhead cost which is usually required for priority delivery.


Oh, also:

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We intend to handle this opportunity as a project as we shall maintain a high level of confidentiality.


My response:

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Thank you again for your email. I was talking about this matter with a friend and he said to me that there was no reason why i should only get 31% since i have to take all the risk, travel and pay money out of my pocket while all you do is send emails. I think we should split the total 55% for me, 40% for you, with the 5% for the other things you mentioned.


His next email:

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I do not want the issue of sharing ratio to be over-flogged. Therefore we shall settle amicably. Let us share: 45% to my side while you retain 50%. This should be fair enough. We shall consider that sharing would be after any tax levied on your holding account from where you shall make disbursement. ... I do not like the idea that you were discussing with a friend about our business. Please, for our safety and yours; do not divulge details of our deal and correspondence to a third-party.


I'll have to see what my friend thinks of that.....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Funny how it slipped the lad's mind that the deal was originally supposed to be confidential, therefore any third parties were not supposed to be involved. Thats why you can't trust lads with your secrets. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From my vantage point the issue of sharing ratio has been under-flogged, if anything.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh, there's more flogging to be done for sure -- I plan to flog this thing to the nearest .0001%. Wink

@Happy -- it was me who breached confidentiality, not the lad. In the last email he is chastising me for consulting with a "third party". As for Trixie -- don't you like her hammer? It's her favorite.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh yea, gotta stop reading so quickly banghead

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Whatever you eventually settle on, get it in writing. Can't be too careful with these high flogging businessmen types. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm, perhaps you shoudl push him even further to see how low he will go.
Keep flogging him Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

wowwow: Keep Over-flogging him. Secretly and discretely so that by the end of the bait he'll wonder how he got so tricked and start to play the name game. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok, as for the 'third party' keep mentioning the fact that you are still discussing every detail with your friend, and then ask him why it is so dangerous for you to involve a third party, it is your friend. Imply that perhaps he has something to hide, which is the reason why he prefers not to have any third parties.

Of course we know he does, but I am just more curious on his responses towards that, plus of course it will annoy him further, which is the point.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My lad has gone a bit quiet since I mentioned how I needed to consider with my friend the next step. I'm afraid he's getting frustrated with me!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

All is well:

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I have reviewed your messages and your request for an offer of 55% has been accepted after much delibration with my esteemed colleague. Sharing ratio is now finalised.


To be clear, it was never a "request". I just "misconstrued" his last email and said I'm glad we were able to agree to my receiving 55%. It took him a couple of days, but we're now on track to make some serious dough.

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