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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:57 pm

Yes, in reality, I really do. Wish I could find a real one. But, in the interim, I amuse myself by playing the scammers. Twisted Evil

So, anyways, I've been toying around with Russian scammers. Those girls are lovely! Obviously, when you get the pictures, it is of a real person somewhere. If only I could find that real person..... hehe
In any case, I am starting to notice patterns, as has been explained on these forums. I have two cases, though, that seem to break out of the norm. First one, one girl/guy/somebody got all pissed at me that I was using lots of smileys in my emails: "I will not understand for what you send me all these smiles to my address for what you it do after all at you bad position now" Hahaha! Laughing

She chewed me out and then quit writing slamming me with this:

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I see you very ancient person and I am not going to listen to such bosh that you write also you do not understand that it important for me and what means what importance have photos? It is normal? If you joke, joke further, but not WITH me!!! I will not disturb more you and you can enjoy loneliness with yourself

Ouch! So harsh! Ancient person??? I'm only thirtysomething! Mad

I loved the word "bosh". That's the first I've ever heard that.
A week or so later, she started writing me again:

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Hello, there has passed time and I and do not receive your letters,tell to me that there was and in what a business why you have ceased to write to me? There can be you will explain me it because for me it is important why I done not written by the person with which I be going to continue to get acquainted? I think you you can understand my interest to this all.

Well no shit I quit writing you, ya dumbass! After calling me ancient and bosh Hahaha! Laughing

So, I start up again and spew her some shit about bankruptcy and foreclosures and all my money is gone. She then writes back, basically, "So why the hell you writing me if you are in bankruptcy" Wow, what a cold, heartless wench this girl/guy/somebody is! Laughing

As usual, she kept asking me the typical bank security questions and photos. Knowing that she/he/it would just use it to make fake ID's, I kept stalling. She hit me with this:

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Hello, you very strange for me and me are not clear that you wish to tell to me? After all I understand that you what that strange and you speak that you owe to one million people money and you find it happy to me all seems it is very ridiculous and I should tell to you that your picture is very interesting she of the strange size and on such as at me. In dialogue with you I understand that you very bad person and do not understand that that I speak to you.

Well, hell, no one can understand you if your english sucks wads like that! Haha!
Overall, an out-of-the-norm scammer.

The second one that was out of the norm, the girl got to the point of she supposedly went and got medical examinations complete so that she could get a visa and travel to the U.S. Shortly after doing that, she wrote me with this:

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I have understood, that we cannot be together.I hope you will forgive me for everything.Excuse, I can not say anything more.Bye and please forgive me

And that was it!
This was a true first as it was the scammer that was initiating the end of the communication...... Shocked

It would have ended there if I didn't have an addiction with toying around with scammers. HAHA! Laughing

I finally got her back toying with the bait, and she explained it was lots of money, yadda, yadda, yadda. Instead of just outright asking me for the money, she said that she went to her friends, Mom, grandmother, and even her boss at work to have them all loan her money. She told me that they all gave her enough and that she was ready to come see me. That was a first for me, as in she never asked me for money, but said that she had gathered up enough all on her own. Eventually, though, she got around to asking me for $420 to cover... something. And that's where it sits right now. I'm not specifically sure what the $420 is for, but I'll find out over the next few days/weeks as I keep working this to see where it will go.

The reason why I tell these two examples is that they are so out of the norm that I honestly wonder if these two "girls" might be real. I've toyed with nearly a hundred scammers at this point, and they almost always fall into the classic scripts. However, there is the 0.01% chance that one "scammer" out there is a legitimate real person trying to date and get out of a crappy world.
The first girl getting all mad and pissed and yelling at me for not sending a photo and using smileys. (ROFL! I still laugh about the smileys). That just doesn't seem like an effective way to sweet talk someone out of their money.
And the second girl being the one to initiate ending communication with me BEFORE she ever asked me for money.
However, they both have all the classic scammer techniques: piss poor english, typical scripts, not answering my questions, asking bank/credit card security questions, eventually saying they need money for plane tickets, visa's, cell phones, dog food, corn flakes, ball point pens, dentures, etc.

So, anyways, just wanted to introduce myself and give you all two unique situations, if they start to show up more often.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:36 pm

Hi ZZ

Sounds to me like they are scammers, they are a little unusual but not completely out of the norm.

The first one suspected you were a baiter but she just had to make sure, nothing worse than the feeling of having purchased a lottery ticket and losing it before it gets checked, you now have forever to wonder if yours was the winning ticket. It's kind of the same thing.

The second one is a little different to the norm only because he is a little smarter than the norm, putting their victims at ease by insisting they dont need money, even when an opportunity arises will make many vics think they cant possibly be scammers, it sounds like you know a thing or 2 about them and you have doubts, imagine how well it would work on somebody who is completely new to this.

If you post up some of the information I can take a look at it for you but I am quite comfortable they are both scammers

I should also mention that we have a good sticky here that explains a lot about baiting as well as about staying safe, I presume you are using no real details to play with these pets.

Take a look through the sticky, it will explain in great detail, you can click on the link in my signature line.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:49 am

Welcome to Eater ZZ

Two things to remember with the Russians, There total devoid of any sence of humour. And always let them think there in control, even when there not.

Don't worry if you get dropped, They don't need an excuse , it just happens..
But let them bring up the subject of money. Then ignore the first 2nd and 3rd request. there's always a reason why you can't send any.

Have a read through some of the past baits, and you will see that there is a set patten, in most cases. Russian baits come in three standard types.
Translator scams, normally run for 4 or 5 e-mails, then there madly in Love with you, but can't afford the translation fees. Quite often you will get an e-mail from "the Company translate" telling you that dear little Ludwinka, is heart broken, as she can't fund the translation fees, and would you like to pay for the fee's.. It's a sort of scam on a scam.
As there's little guarantee, that the romance will continue/

Then we have Internet fees scams,, where she can't affort the internet fee's and would you like to pay them, or she wont be able to keep writing to you.

And lastly we have the standard scam, which is normally money for visa's, passports, Air tickets, hosp[ital bills, due to the accident her non-existent daughter had with a horse and cart. But the softening up process could go for months before requests for money eventuate.

Some times you might get a Porn bate, but there rare

Just make sure whatever you do , you do it safely, and the "stickies" explain that sort of thing clearly..

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:43 am

@ Zzyzx

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Wish I could find a real one

Caution - very thoroughly what you for to desire with may of posters occur Russian being not only but is extremely desirable girl well as possible.

Wink

набросок = bosh (the sketch) - comedy routine

Cool

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:22 am

Cathartic Kate wrote:

Caution - very thoroughly what you for to desire with may of posters occur Russian being not only but is extremely desirable girl well as possible.

Looks like Kate's back on the piss. Embarassed

For what you write like what you did.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:29 am

It's a trick WB

Be careful, if you read that 10 times in a row quickly, it will actually make sense as to why she has done it Wink

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:37 am

It is very muchly a trick indeedy.

Wink

I am drinking hot ribena - helps keep out to Novgorod gloom.

Rolling Eyes

To make the statement sound "translationed gibberish" I merely "babelised" Ukrainian into Polish and then French and finally into English.

The point I was making was that Russians indeed do bait and warn, some are female and also desirable.

Saturday lecture time - it has been a while, though.

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I will get told off for generalizing, but I can count on the fingers of one hand - genuine Russian women on dating sites. The vast majority are "Boris" using pics of models, who just happen to be single, never married, have no children; and despite having looks that would have men and some women salivating, have yet to experience love or (ahem) enjoy sex.

Anyone can be anyone and from anywhere on the net - as baiters we are proof of that.

People need to be much more wary and careful - also stop letting their desires and dreams do their thinking.