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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:55 pm

Ok, I am still learning so I need an opinion on the last part of this one. This is ALL from today EST.

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> Dear Mike,
>
>
>
> This is to bring to your notice that the chief of the Delta district to which the oil was found has hereby send this notification to you that you are now the board member of the oil field investors. The summary of it all is that the land contains three oil well and the geologist will bring to our notice how many barrels there. You are to take 60% and 40% goes to the community. Mr you are to provide the following information.

Which I did and he promptly (with in minuets!) called my shill number. (Big thanks to my Mentor, Pasture Frank!!!!)

I also added this little tid-bit!!!

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Mike
>>>>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:12 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Ben, please see details below. We are a small company and always on the look out for new ventures. I look forward to this venture. I am sorry that we have no teams in that area at this time and it will be some time before we do. But I do have one question, do you know anyone that can translate French into English? I am having a hell of a time with work being done in North Nigeria with a crew that mostly speak French and a command crew that is almost all British and Australian. If you could recommend me a good man, I would be very grateful!!! (I could even work in to the deal a "finder's fee" for you.) All I need him to do is translate French to English.
>>>>> Mike

Which he took in nicely!

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Barrister Ben wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear,
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you doing?am indeed very happy to see your reply and am much interested to see you have a nice and reasonable man who can translate french to english.now i want to know from you the location to which this man will work as a translator.I called you now on phone but i would not hear you very well. am waiting for your reply now.

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mike wrote:

>>>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 5:29 PM
>>>>
>>>> Sir,
>>>> I did receive a notice and a short 2 secound voice message on my Satellite phone. As I am out of the country... and sat time is expensive! I have my calls forwarded to me, then I can call you back if need be. It also sometimes takes a bit of time for the message to get to me because it has to relay off the satellite to my phone.
>>>> As you asked, my geo tracker crew is currently in Jega near Birnin Kebbi but may move soon a bit more south depending on the quality of the find.
>>>> The job is for a man who can speak French and English. He is not going to labor as he will be dealing with those people. basically, he will work for the team boss and translate his instructions into french for the labor crew. For this we pay him a salary of $1000 to $1500 a week, plus expenses and a bonus if the finds bring a good profit. He must be a christian man and can not be homosexual and in good physical health as there is a good bit of walking to the sites sometimes. He also can not be afraid to fly as we use planes and helicopters a lot!
>>>> I look forward to hearing from you!
>>>> Mike

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Barrister
>>>> Sir,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and am happy to see your reply now. based on the information provided i know is good to have a nice and responsible man for you. please you are to give me sometime to sort things out and get you a nice man for the job. now i want to know how much you can offer me as this man is coming to your crew? however, when do you want this man to be with your crew? now as a matter of fact this man will have to plan with his family before leaving to join your crew.
>>>>
>>>> Am waiting your reply now.
>>>>
>>>> Barrister Ben.

Sounds reasonable.... But that I need him ASAP...

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Mike
>>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:06 PM
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>>> Sir, I totally understand that he will have to plan. I would not have it any other way. I am just glad you got to me while I had internet and could talk to you with out having to wait all day.
>>> About the job, once your man arrives in Jega he will then be taken to the site, most likely by truck but maybe by helicopter if we are at site 2. There he will start work. He is expected to work 10 hours a day with Sunday off.
>>>
>>> Family comes first, I know, but we need him as soon as he can get here and get hired. Once here, we will pay him for his travel and once he is hired, we will send you a fee. Depending on how well he can translate French in to English we will pay you between $500 and $1000us. We will pay you $300 no matter what the out come again once he gets here. And as we may need more translators, we will ask you again and if you can send people we can hire, we will pay you again. We offer two methods of payment currently, cash in hand (US Dollars) or gold, sometimes we pay in diamonds. (I find most people prefer gold as it can go up in value.)
>>> Now then before he starts the journey, he will need to first submit two photos (front and back) to me to make sure you are not sending me a cripple. He MUST be in good shape and able to walk. Write my company name on a card and have it in the photo. "DrS - 1138 Oil&Eas" (I am sorry for the sign, but it is the only way I know you have a real photo and not something you just found. We have had trouble in the past you know.)
>>>

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Barrister John R. Ben <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> please i heard all you said and i want to know where you are currently now? are you with your crew in jega?

Now he is testing me...?

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>> From: Mike
>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:01 PM
>>
>> Yes, but I am getting ready to leave again for South Africa to check on another crew. If he can get here quickly, I will meet him in person and do the interview. If he takes a few days, I will put him in contact with my forman, and he will arrange the interview and pick up.
>>

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<barrister> wrote:
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>> please we are on the same side and he will be with you as soon as i have my fees now.your forman will do the rest job on your behalf. please am i getting my fees so i can release HIM now?

There's a shock..... He wants fees up front? The bastard!!!

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> From:
> Subject: Re: Re : Notification Letter
> To: "Barrister
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:20 PM
>

> You can not even send him till I get a look at him to make sure he is fit. If he is not fit, I can not use him at all and there would be no reason for him to travel to Jega.
>

> Sir, maybe you do not understand. I can not pay you till I at the very least see a photo, front and back, of the man you plan to send with my company name. This is so both you and I know he is real and can do the work.

Now this was new to me.... it came in at about 445pm est, just now.

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<barrister> wrote:
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> i understand you as you said but i want you to foward your company full detail in regard to the recognition of the federal republic of nigeria. once that is done i will call the man to send me his photo and i will scan it and forward it to you. before anything else will take place i will see that my fees is ready

Ok, now what? Do we have fake credentials? I highly doubt he can check them, or do I send this as I thought I would:

"I am sorry Mr Ben, I will check with my contacts but you must understand I am talking to you from a camp in North Nigeria.... I do not tend to cary my government license with me on a prospecting trip and keep them in my tent. If you can not provide a photo of the man, i am sorry but our business in that matter is done then we will have to continue only on the oil contract.

Mike"

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:01 pm

Now he is getting pissy, he just followed up with this:

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 , Barrister @yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have seen your mesage now and the issue is that are you ready to provide
> the information about your company? if you can then you will see the man
> soonest.please where is your man in lagos because am out of location now
>

And then this!

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Now i have notice your company is not registered and you have commited and offence by not going through the constitution of the federal republic of nigeria. according to section 256 code 24. please i think the an action should be taken now to see your firm is off the atmosphere.

Huh??

Wanting to at least waste some of his time, I sent him this delaying note:

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Sir, I am not sure I understand you. Do you want me to pay you BEFORE I even know that you have a man for me?

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:18 pm

Wanting to keep the lad on line for as long as I can, I broke down and sent him this. (with a nod to Nurse Nasty)

Me to lad:

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Sir, please understand that I do not carry my company papers with me
to tent camps in the middle of the bush. My company is a contractor
for XXXXXXX Inc. out of XXxxXXXXX USA. You may be able to google
them as I do not know the web address off the top of my head. They
take care of all the government work and visa's for us. I know that
part of the contract is tht we have to hire about 80% of the staff
from Nigerian Nationals. Once I get back to South Africa, I can send
you likely any information you need on us. But I cant do it from here
on a satellite internet hook up.

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:04 pm

You're a premium member so you have access to the bait sites. If you wish to add another character to your bait, I can setup and mail forwarder from one of the businesses to suit your bait. This will give you the separation between characters that ensures communication problems between head office and your field staff. It's good cop / bad cop scenario.

You've planted the seeds to get this scammer to travel, so far so good.

Offering a better and believable deal is what you've done, so offering small tidbits of authenticity is the next step. Scammer's love some sort of paperwork. Gives them something tangible. I've offered employee cards, which is just a single image with the website information and some text assuring them that if they hand this card to the field staff they will be employed. Getting to a location you'll need to make them feel they are special and despite all the others who are looking for work, you'll make sure they are chosen.

Act indifferently to their situation. Treat them as they treat their victims. Give them the promise of something better and make them feel special. Feed the ego a little.

If you need some specialised help, I'm here at your disposal. Very Happy

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:19 pm

Thanks, PM sent.

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

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i think the an action should be taken now to see your firm is off the atmosphere.

My first bit of advice would be to slow this thing down, this bait has some potential.

Get with NN and set up that other email addy. Did you get Skype set up and running? If not, I can make a call in the morning.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:09 am

^^^

yes I did. I sent him one to his other email, the one I originally responded too and said this:

{Cliffs notes: I need help, your lawyer is shit, can you help me? you can call and I can call!}

The idea being that I am desperate for help.

Twisted Evil

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Sir,

I am sorry to bother you but I have run in to a sang with Mr Ben, your
barrister. Your barrister seems to be playing some sort of game and I
do need some help here. Since I met you I would like to ask you the
same question I asked him.

My company is a small contract organization that works for larger
corporations in Africa and other parts of the world. Our current job
is on assignment for Kellogg Browns RotoRooter. As such we
do a geological work in prospecting for precious materials. Currently
my team in northern Nigeria is in desperate need of a man that can
translate English to French. For this we pay a fee based upon his
ability. All we ask for other than he speak English and French is
that he be of sound body as we do a lot of hiking in the bush.

I asked Mr Ben for help locating a man but he seems to be of the idea
that we will pay him even before he confirms he has a man to send
me!!! Can you help? Do you know anyone that can translate English to
French that can work for us for about 6 months to a year? If you do
please call me at 202 xxx xxxx and leave me your number. (It is a
satellite phone transfer so you may not get me but I WILL return your
call.) or reply to this message with your number and I will contact
you.

Otherwise we can communicate this way but know I am on a satellite
email hook up which as you know, is not the best in the world.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:20 pm

Well, looks like RotoRooter is licensed in Nigeria, my lad bought it and is even now looking for the right man.

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Barrister John R. Ben<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Mike Howard,
>
> It is very certain you are the right person i will deal with in terms of
> services and bussiness transaction. am now convinced your organization has
> licence and operate under the canopy of the federal republic of nigeria.
> thanks for more information about your firm. please i will forward to you
> the photo of the man i have found for you and as soon as you receieve it
> please get back to me.
>
> Barr. John R Ben.
>
>

In speaking with my mentor, I was given the sage advice to let him stew for a little bit and not talk to him at all. So no reply yet! (Well, unless he gets me the photos!)

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 120 Location: USA

It seems like this may result in an ITP going on safari and not a scammer.

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:07 pm

^^^ I doubt it....

UPDATE!

So he sent me a photo... and it was of Taye Diggs in a suit! Well since they screwed that up guess they will have to try harder. He is still trying to get me to pay him up front before any one "leaves." I made it a little easier on them though. My plane will fly down one or two towns over to pick him up if I can get it arranged... Smile

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:22 pm

^^

so far

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