Turning the usual 419's, etc. into love baits...

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419Eater is my life Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 327

I was wondering, is it always so easy to turn the usual scams into love baits? I first tried that with my hitlad, and while I didn't think it would work at first, things took a turn and it worked out very well. Of course, then I had a big problem of sorts and had to drop the lad. I was disappointed a little, but there are always plenty of other lads to have a go at. So I thought I'd try to give it another shot, and turn a typical NOK scam into a love bait. The first email I sent in reply to his initial one, he read it and his reply to me mentioned nothing about the intitial scam. He is interested and wants to get to know me better. He's been looking for love and wants a foreign girlfriend. I've also played around with a couple other lads doing the same thing of sorts, and I have not yet been disappointed in my results. Apparently, they are indeed reading my irst emails to them!
So I wondered, is it always this easy, or am I just lucky?

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:51 pm

If it is easy, then I am a failure. If it is luck, then I am unlucky.

I'd like to think that you are just especially skillful. Then you can share your experiences and tips.

After over 100 non-romance Lads, I've just got my first was-another-scam turned into a love correspondence. I like it. But that was at his initiation, not mine. Whenever I've tried, my little flirtations and hints have been firmly ignored.

So I'd be interested to know where I'm going wrong.

(I don't have any problems with Lads from dating sites, and I avoid love talk with Refugees: it is just those others I fail at.)

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:58 pm

I've managed it once with a NOK scammer. I sent him a photo he commented on how attractive I was, so I told him that he was very good looking. A little bit of flirting later and he was calling me his wife and declaring his love for me.

I managed to get him to 'divorce his wife' (he provided a court declaration confirming the divorec), and got a handwritten poem, a drawing of some flowers and a will out of him.

419Eater is my life Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 327

@Branwen~ What I have been doing is being very straight forward about it. With the hitlad, I was just hinting at first. Then I flat out said things to him. "I bet you're sexy!" "I really LOVE your aggressive attitude!!! Come on, boss me around some more!!!" "After I pay you off, I wanna hook up!" Things like that.

When I reply to the straight 419's, my first emails are something like, "I got your email, and you can tell me more about what you need, but please, tell me more about you, too! I've been wanting to meet someone from _______, I heard all the men there are sexy!" Things like that.

As a female, I've always heard men like it when you're straight up with them, and they don't always take hints too well, or like it when you beat around the bush. I just thought maybe lads were no different than the men in my country. So I kind of approach it like that. The only thing is, I've noticed some lads can be quite pushy and forward right back. I had one demand my phone number or he isn't talking to me anymore! Shocked

I haven't replied to him yet.

@B8er~ You got him to divorce his wife! lmao... and you just have to love it when they put their efforts into writing poems and drawing things for you. The will just tops it all off perfectly! Twisted Evil

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:34 pm

That is interesting. My most successful targetting-romance-lads character was an experimental assertive type, who also got impatient (and quite bad-tempered) very easily. My most successful current one is straight-speaking and tends to be suspicious of lads' motives (always guessing the wrong motives, of course!) and tells them so.

My general-baiting characters are much more demure, however. Sweeter types who would only drop a subtle hint and a gentle compliment. Obviously too subtle and gentle.

I think I'll try an increasing self-confidence for them. I want to find that balance or middle-ground between 'gullible' and 'smart/sharp' that works the best.

Maybe it is just called 'being open'. Not necessarily smart, just open about feelings/hopes/dreams. Maybe less of the (stereotypically) British understatement.

I will learn in time, I hope.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:19 pm

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I had one demand my phone number or he isn't talking to me anymore!

I have yet to use the phone or send a photograph - and never will. If they threaten to pull the rug - I just tell them what they are going to be missing; a saucy, daring minx that teases the scripts and info out of them.

I can lie better than them any day of the week and the scripts and stuff gets posted at Scamwarners where it alerts and in many cases saves potential "real" victims.

It like a game of chess, they need to send me photos, so that I can "fall" in lurve with them, but my scanner is always broken, and my obsessively overprotective Father monitors my phone.

I suppose I am simply more callous than the scammers, whether my character is male or female, I just use whatever I need to offer to them to get what I want from them. I can be and am, anyone, anywhere, any age, rich or poor.

Wink

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:16 pm

It works well, since many 419ers are part-time romance scammers just the same.

The constellation "main character interested in the lad´s business, his secretary open to romancing the lad" has worked out repeatedly, and it gives the scammer an additional safari reason Wink

Ask SlapHappy or redshoes when I´m not there Wink

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:55 pm

I suppose lads tend to think that a woman in love with a man will give him money even more readily than she will pay "fees" and "bribes."

It works out great for the baiter, too, as love lads are so deliciously slappable - they always seem to say or do something that my baiting character takes offense at. And then they fall all over themselves apologizing to keep themselves in my good graces. Mr. Green

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