Ukrainian Vlad

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:28 pm

Hello folks,

Lately I have been baiting a "girl " form the Ukraine who claims to love me. I won't post all the starting e-mails, because they aren't anything special, but so far I have managed to make her believe that I will be coming to Kyiv to meet her. Only problem with this is that she needs a train ticket to get there. So I tell her that in addition to that I am sending her a gift, totaling the sum to $1000.

To send this, I needed her to fill in a form and she did it. Twice. Now during this weekend, her "love" has been the victim of a snake bite and is in a critical condition in a hospital somewhere in India. His good friend and colleague, John Smith informs her:

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Dear Ms. Dmitrenko,

My name is John Smith. I am an American working here in India for IwanAfuk Gold. My boss and owner of this company is Mr. Iwan Afuk who unfortunately is unable to come to work. Me and Iwan are very good friends and we were hiking in the jungle together this weekend. Unfortunately, Iwan was bitten by a snake and was rushed to a hospital. He is in a critical condition and is fighting to survive. He has given me access to his e-mail account and told me to send a message about his situation to you.

You might want to know that he keeps telling me what a fantastic girl you are and how the thought of seeing you is keeping him strong in the hospital. He even managed to talk to me today and tell me to contact you. Iwan is a strong fighter and I am sure he will be alright, but it could take some time. It is not the first time he was bitten. Once when he was in the Indian special forces he was bitten by a cobra and miraculously managed to fight himself back to life. However that time it took him 2 weeks before he was released form the hospital. This time it wasn't a very dangerous snake, he was bitten by what they call a "hoggorm" here in India. The reason Iwan is in danger is because we were far away from any hospital.

He mentioned something about a form and a payment going through MoneyGram. Do you have any information about this? I saw the form on his e-mail account but I do not know what kind of transfer you are talking about, how much, etc. Could you please give me some more information?

I hope the contents of this e-mail is not too upsetting for you.

Sincerely,

John Smith
Network Administrator,
IwanAfuk Gold ®

I got this reply from her this afternoon:

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Hi, dear Mr Smith! What had happened there?? I did not that something had happened there and how is Iwan now??? Are you sure that everything will be fine??? I do not want to lose him without getting know him better, we have just got acquainted and it is very important period for our relations cause we want to meet in Kiev!!!! Iwan told me that he cam arrive there and I will be able to meet him in Kiev!!!! about transfer i want to say that I just need some money for the ticket to Kiev 300$ and Iwan told me that he could send it to me!!! and A little surprise for me i some amount of money 1000$!!!! Hi is really generous man, yes?? You know him better then me!!!! but I want to get him in all spheres of the life, i think that you can understand me cause he is do interesting person!!!!! So he wants to use Money Gram and sent me some form that i have to fill in, so I did that and sent to him!!! And now I am waiting for what he is going to do next!!!Cause we have to book a ticket earlier cause it might happen that there will be no one when we need it!!

I want you to tell me about him if it will be not a problem for you. Cause it is such a great pain to stay here when he feels sick there))))

I want you to tell him that I am with him every moment of the day, i think about him and i send all my love to protect him from the all deceases that are there in India!!! Cause i love him very much!!! And i want him to get to know that!!!

Olena

Attached in this e-mail were two slutty pictures of her. She really is one cheap bitch Laughing

Anyway, I send this back to her:

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Dear Ms. Dmitrenko,

As a matter of fact, I just heard from the hospital today that his
condition is getting worse. I have not been allowed to talk to him
since Sunday, and to be honest I do not know what is happening. I do
hope that he will make it through and survive, but as of right now, I
can not be sure.

I will repeat once again what happened: Me and Iwan were walking in
the Jungle in Southeast India this weekend. This is an area known for
dangerous snakes, and Iwan was so unfortunate that he was bitten by
one. A long time passed from when he was bitten to he was taken to the
hospital, and that is why he is in a bad situation.

You should know that Iwan loves you very much. He told me on Sunday
that just being able to see your pictures is keeping him strong, and I
can understand him. You look absolutely beautiful on those pictures
you sent me.

I will keep you updated as soon as I hear something from the hospital.

Sincerely,

John Smith

So, what do you guys think? Some creative support would be helpful, she seems like she would almost anything, so give me everything you got Wink

Thanks.

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:39 pm

Suggest the classic - bait character death (newspaper clip) vlad named as sole beneficiary.

You could play the secondary character and a hot shot lawyer as well.

Forms filling and documentation mayhem as the carrot gets a dangled - while you play the vlad whichever way you desire.

Wink

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:07 am

Good to see you joining in on the fun

Just one point, you mentioned how boring the opening emails are, please post them as well, the early scripted emails are very good for any potential victim who may be seacrhing on your vlad to see if she is real, by having all of the early emails posted it increases the likelyhood of being found

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:03 am

Your going well if you can get a russian to return a form, let alone two of them.
Keep the news updates from the good John Smith nice and formal,
then with any luck she won't start putting the hard word on you. Also drag out the replies. If it looks like she's getting bored or fails to reply. tell her your good friend has died, and his last wish on this earth,
was that You look after her.
Then start the bait all over again. Wink

Could you perhaps post a photo of her-in-doors, She might be someone's others have baited before, and then they can give you more infomation on her

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:49 pm

Thanks for your help guys, I think I have at least a short term plan. I'm thinking of letting Mr. Iwan Afuk die and set up a will. To get the money, she will of course have to do a bunch of wierd stuff, but to inherit a multimillion dollar corporation, she should have to work, right?

Also, I know it's a little childish, but I'm thinking of getting her to undress before the camera (peer presure). Has anyone done this with a Vlad before? Anyone think it's impossible?

@weareborg:

It wasn't two separate forms, but she had to take the form back and scan it with a better scanner. I guess it kinda goes for the same, cuz she told me she had to pay some extra Laughing

@Murry Gurru: I'll post the opening mails soon, but right now I'd like to do it chronologically to try to keep the thread nice and tidy. The picture should help though.

Here is the reply I got from her today:

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hi, there!!! is true?? Hi has some problems there?? Maybe it will be better for him to get to another hospital, Mr.Smith?? I have not been sleeping for two days already, cause i am really worried about him! It is so hard for not to be able to make his condition easier((((( I am

in despair!!! About photos i want to say that i sent them for Iwan and not for you Mr. Smith, sorry that you got me wrong!!! I was hoping that you

would show him them and he would understand that i am with him through all the miles that are between us!!!!!! So , if you can show

them to him , ok!!! and i also want to ask you speak with them maybe there is a reason for me to come to India and give him all my attendance???? Talk to him cause i want to there with him and to take care of me honey Iwan!! I will be waiting for the reply from you Mr. Smith and I hope that it will be very soon!!!!

Olena

I send this to delay it a little:

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Dear Ms. Dmitrenko,

I am very sorry that I have not been able to send you a mail earlier, but I do not know anything. The hospital will not talk to me about his condition, and they will not let me speak to him.

Please do not get me wrong about the photos, I was merely paying you a complement. I will of course give them to Iwan when I see him.

I will do my best to give you an update as often as possible.

Sincerely,

John Smith.

Anymore suggestions are of course welcome, if anyone has seen this girl before and would like to share some info on her, then plz do.

Thanks for your help!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:04 pm

Is that Ol3na? Pretty blonde, big cans?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:35 pm

^^^ Yep, that's my girl Wink

Got more pictures too, bikinis and stuff. You like her? Laughing

Oh and please, if anyone should happen to have her e-mail, plz don't start a new bait until I tell you it's ok. I'm not sure how she's going to react to my offer and I don't want to lose her just yet. Thanks a lot Wink

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:38 pm

Sorry boss, I've been at her now for two months...are working with her alter ego "Tr@velling B1rd"? They are going to get me a H1B for her to come work for me Twisted Evil

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:32 am

I also know the face, and have baited it before, but that's not to say, it's the same scammer. They do share the photo's round, especially if someone's found a large set.

Arctic Baiter wrote

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Also, I know it's a little childish, but I'm thinking of getting her to undress before the camera (peer presure). Has anyone done this with a Vlad before? Anyone think it's impossible?

It really depends if she has got any nude stolen photo's. If she hasn't then your not about to get any. Just remember, your not talking to the lady in the photo. But a bloke called Ivan'off. Very few russian scammers are woman. I've had one on the go for close to six months, but there unusually.
Read this one, http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153237 And it's only just started talking about money, but I still haven't had a direct request.
Also I've found with the Russians, they seem to run in about 4 groups, Travel scams, you visit them. Interpreter scams, Straight money / Love scams, and Love scams where they shower you with porn photo's.

I've also had them drop me cold for even talking about sex. So if you want to keep it , go very slowly.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:53 am

Also, I find running them through a personal tragedy weaves the fabic of your bait together tighter and draws them in. Right now Ol3n@'s boyfriend, here anyway, is very ill. Some bug he caught in Italy helping out with the rescue efforts during the big earthquake there. I like to use current events to "authenticate" my character's stories.

She is apparently really hooked right now, too. She is going to gather information from the "travel agency" for me while I am convalesing...

Great pics from this one though,huh? I love the pics with her sitting in front of a plate of expensive looking food...what the heck is that? If she's gonna hit me up for money she had better be eating macaroni and cheese (Kraft Dinner to the Canucks) or Chef boy-are-dee. Hmmm... the makings of a trophy pic?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:43 pm

Good news! Iwan Afuk survived! However, he is weak and she will have to do a lot for him.

Here is her passport if it helps anyone recognize her. The EXIF data claims it is Photoshopped, but it looks like an old Ukrainian passport (they don't write them by hand anymore)

She looks innocent, but I'm guessing it's some kind of porn star. Also, any views on whether the two pictures are of the same girl?[/img]