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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:47 pm

It's come to my attention, I've been catching some flak on 4ppl.com that someone is accusing my alter identity as a scammer, I've tried to tell them I am not, some people are sticking up for me...But in the case it leads back here, If people find out the identity belongs to Canadian419. People might start saying things, with illigetimate proof. I want to assure everyone here, I am a very honest and truthfull baiter, to the core. I make it a mission to stop theives and scammers. You all know me, and I would appreciate if anyone catches anything before I do, please set them straight. I'm sorry this has happened, and it may never leak back here. But just in the case it does. Thanks guys.

Here's some of the conversation exchanged.
Him:

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your a cad and a liyer i found your photo on hear http ://ww w.vojvo dinacafe.com /forum/sportska-centrala/2041-bodybuilding-i-fitness.html

read my profile see what i do best

Me:

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dude, i'm a 419 baiter, go away. I'm here to stop fraud and fight against internet fraud rings. Please do not reply to this mail again. Thank you.

Him:

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well your not to good are you ok as 1 of all asking some one not to reply to this mail again is not really going to work so if your as good as you say you are. or your who you say you are then give me you real email and let me put it in to the police records to see for my self not to hard so called dude

your a scammer as your on 3 scam sites and now i will be posting you on to 1 more with in the next 24 hours dude your full of bull shit and all so by your scam site you say your from have you notified 4ppl in what you are doing as if not you have broke protocol so this will bring me to reporting you to the ombudsman for internet safety and and anti scam

if you don't believe me cheek it out it is very easy do you home work scammer be for you come shouting the odds again think

Me:

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what are you talking about? are you alright? Look, I try to rid the internet of scammers, if you did do this research you would find that my email is apart of ANTI-SCAM sites. Take a look at 419 baiters and you will see what I am. Do some homework before sending insulant messages to me again. I was just being nice and telling you to not respond to this profile because I ONLY respond to scammers. Thank you for your time.

Him:

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as you can not read i sent you u my last email back to you so you can read it again as we at the Metropolitan Police Service think your up to some thing ells cheek it out now

keep away as we have jurisdiction over you on here you should of told 4ppl of you whereabouts and what your conduct is on this site i am on here by Recrest so i so deploy you if you say who you say you are keep away and get in touch with the Metropolitan Police Service in the UK to see who i am i am not impressed as i am not joking here is the last email read it please and don't write back as i will have you removed as a;; your doing is using the name 419 baiters this is the end of this ok and i mean the end

well your not to good are you ok as 1 of all asking some one not to reply to this mail again is not really going to work so if your as good as you say you are. or your who you say you are then give me you real email and let me put it in to the police records to see for my self not to hard so called dude

your a scammer as your on 3 scam sites and now i will be posting you on to 1 more with in the next 24 hours dude your full of bull shit and all so by your scam site you say your from have you notified 4ppl in what you are doing as if not you have broke protocol so this will bring me to reporting you to the ombudsman for internet safety and and anti scam

if you don't believe me cheek it out it is very easy do you home work scammer be for you come shouting the odds again think

Me:

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You sound like a regular Nigerian. I'm sorry dude, you have no authority at all. Please refrain from responding to this mailbox from here on in. Your english is terrible, you have no authority, and your clearly an idiot. If you HAD done research we would not be having this conversation. Remain idiotic, fool.

Regards

Him:

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no wrong very wrong we are trained to come across like that just to make things look like we not all there so you should feel right at home ass wipe

no we not the internet police but some thing more than that see if you have a brain cell try and work it out i don't care a shit if you write back like a child and try to up set me as i have had beater than you try

it take more of a man to say sorry but i no you will not as all you are is scum making peoples life a hell and lying to them do your home work and see who i am shit for brains and yes i have dune my home work your an out and out scammer that is all just black scum

please have a nice day o be for i go ask 4ppl what i do they sure to tell you as wipe

Him, Again:

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i dont give a shit what you think as i was badly scammed and i am after every fucker on here ok and i have 50 of us if i have to ok and that is now with you and the rest of your gay fucking friends as well come to the uk and have a go at me face to face and see how big you are now fuck of *DELETED* see if i take my self of i have 50 more people to take my place as they have all been scammed ok i lost all i had to some shit on this site and i wil not stop on to i have the *DELETED*

Me:

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thank you for getting to the Grits of it all. I am an accomplished baiter, I wish you would stop flagging me, The scammers will realize and stop contacting me. I have helped people, alot of people. I specialize in "love" baits. Do you happen to have the email address of the scammer who scammed you? If you could email me any information including the scammers illegid identity I can post it on scamwarners.com and hopefully warn any other potential victims. If you have any pictures and emails, i specifically need the initial scripts used. They are the most helpfull. Any Photo's s(he) sent you, and exactly what she was after (ie. cell phone, laptop, plain old money) I am involved with 419eater.com please stop harassing and bringing attention to me, I am not the man you after. Thank you. If you need any help please just let me know, I'll try to do everything in my power to assist.

Regards

here's his profile statement

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looking to stop scammers on this site and i will name and shame them and i will put up there photos up as well so get of the site and go back to your hiding hole all the photos you can see are girls that have been in touch with me and asked for money i will be putting names to them for every one to see that they can no longer hide to the rest of you please take care and as them if they have a web-cam and if not go chat to them as all they will do is ask for things just please be safe

I have no doubt it will continue. Stay tuned... I'm sure he will still not understand, if you guys are on 4ppl take a look at his blogs. "stuart69"

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:14 am

It sounds like you have found a complete whack job and a racist one at that.

You have done nothing wrong mate, dont worry, you will find these every so often, please dont invite him to join here, we dont need the help of racist loonies here

You know i have all the time in the world for those who have been targeted by scams, I get accused of being a scammer myself often, i have had death threats, it's all in a days work for those trying to help scam victims

Sad but for the best

Close that profile, open a new one and dont use a picture of anyone

Make the information about yourself such that no real person will fall for you and try again.

Appl have huge problems with scammers and dont do near enough to control it, they certainly are not the only ones out there who are bordering on negligent.

The other interesting thing is this whacko seems to think you are breaking the law by having false pretenses on a dating site, just wondering who he is trying to pick up, before closing your profile, contact appl and report the abuse, many people group scam fighters all in the same basket and even this person is single handedly lowering the baskets gene pool.

i kind of hope he doesn't find love, the worlds gene pool can not benefit by that Wink

No person deserves to be scammed, I feel bad and have genuine compassion for anybody who has been, but for somebody who has been through the pain and trauma to be so narrow minded, blaming all black people and accusing people out of the blue of being scammers, fanatical ravings to boot, this person has much to learn but sadly is too stubborn to listen, i bet his family and friends told him for months he was being scammed and he was too stubborn to listen to that as well.

You are making a noble, just effort to help people just like him, and he couldn't even hear what you had to say without making further accusations

I would be interested in seeing an IP from him if you do happen to get an email from him

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:35 am

Identities are a dime a dozen. Just create a new one and don't worry about it. Plenty of baiters have had their profiles closed from time to time, and I remember another thread in which Titania mentioned she baited a lad whose parting shot was to "out" her as a scammer online--apparently he did the same with his vics once they stopped paying. Maybe that's what kicked this off.

As long as none of your baiting profiles or eater lead back to you personally, nothing to be concerned about. As Murry said, keep your profiles as unappealing as possible to reduce the risk of attracting innocent people.

Get rid of the profile, but of course, you can always keep that identity/email in case you decide you need a fake lad for baiting...

As for this guy--he's clearly a few cards short of a deck--and just as obviously is not connected to law enforcement. Even without his wretched English, his behavior should make that clear--if he were really law enforcement, he would soon be out of a job for harassing citizens over the internet.

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:10 am

G'day Canadian, I take it this clown, is communicating via the web sites PM system, Hopefully it's not public, to all and sundry.
to read, Have you perhaps thought about running a bait on him. he seems to have a lot of problems with his diction, capitals and hasn't discovered what a full stop is yet.

Some of these quotes really need framing,

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i am on here by Recrest so i so deploy you if you say who you say you are

your a scammer as your on 3 scam sites and now i will be posting you on to 1 more with in the next 24 hours dude

no wrong very wrong we are trained to come across like that just to make things look like we not all there so you
should feel right at home ass wipe

please have a nice day o be for i go ask 4ppl what i do they sure to tell you as wipe

Forget trying to speak logically, The lights on but know-one's home. the chances are he's been baited before and has lost considerable
time and income. don't report him to the admin of the site, At the moment you know where to find him , getting him kicked off, will only allow him to start another character, with an unknown name.

Start another character and prase him for all the good work he's doing, ask him if you could help and see where it goes..
If you want a hand drop me a PM. I'll play judge advocate as well as anyone else. As for the ombudsman for internet safety
We can all play that game.. but try and get an e-mail from him, even if you have to set up another account, just for him..

I doubt your about to be carted off, Wink

But if you are, take your laptop with you. If ref'O camps can have internet connections so can prisons Confused

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:57 am

Hi Canadian I have just posted on 4pp for the dick head to see.

stuart69 get over it!

Girls who look like that, are models or porn stars. When you see these pictures on a dating site you should know they have been stolen by scammers.

Also sweetie you were probably talking to men, so just get on with your life.

btw just giving the Tony a slap, back for more he is!

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:31 pm

that's kinda funny, I got a slap for my fake profile (1 of 2). The pic is an actress, and apprently famous (which of course is why I used it). And who did I use??? Angela Lansbury!

My other profile has Nick Nolte in the Pic, and NO-ONE has spotted him, I've even had people ask me who's the dude next to me!

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:35 pm

You've wasted too much time worrying about this idiot - I wouldn't have even sent a "dude I'm a baiter" letter - I would have just ignored and deleted the first letter.

I have had a couple accounts closed down by 4ppl - I assume they were reported for some reason or another...I just make a new one and go on...

I've been called a scammer, which actually in a weird way made me proud since the lad had no clue I was a baiter Wink

Based on his English skills, I would create a new account and bait him, if it bothers you so much Wink

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:40 am

From what I see, perhaps he deserves to be baited, but unfortunately there is no proof that he is a scammer.

His english is not good but it isn't consistent with typical African,

He made racist remarks about black people

and there is a large part of the world who's first language is not english where white people also live.

I dont think its a lad, just somebody who is too stubborn for his own good who got scammed

Back when Pr0file L00ker was popular with the lads there were a couple of people like this who had some more unusual methods of keeping the world safe, I never payed too much attention

I do totally agree with Ivana's sentiment of not wasting any more time though

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:33 pm

I've actually learnt since he is a furious old man. He was scammed and lost EVERYTHING.
He had a stroke shortly after. He has apoligized and is sending me all the information about
His past scam-lationship. I will keep you guys posted. The reason I was worried it would lead to eater
Is because if you google my alias it leads to an eater thread. Anyhow, thanks guys.
Hilarious responces, and full of great stuff. Although you guys hardly needed to tell me
To wash my hands of the profile...somewhere in those beligerant responces I saw something.
Maybe this will help us put up another GOOD scammer up on scamwarners.com. Anyhow, I'm on my blackberry
So I'm going to take leave, cheers.

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:38 pm

Well done Canadian and thanks for the report clapping

Another why do we spend our time playing with scammers story Sad

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:33 pm

Well done indeed for finding out the full story.

So sad that he suffered so much.

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:08 pm

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I am a very honest and truthfull baiter, to the core. I make it a mission to stop theives and scammers.

@ Canadian419.

Yes you are all of the above and more.

A fine and skillful baiter, a wonderful mentor, you care and give your time freely to help, protect and benefit others.

You make a wonderful contribution to a very noble cause. You will find me in your corner anytime you need.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:23 am

Canadian419,

Are you Carlos? If so send me a PM I have some information on Stuart69 that might be of interest.

Rgds

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:33 am

what a weird story. i never expected that a bait could lead to this sort of exchange with a victim - i think i would just bail out if that happened to me. but it sounds like you handled it well, and maybe scamwarners can help him like you said, so kudos to you.