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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:58 am |
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Hi guys! I'm new to the forum so kindly redirect me if I'm posting in the wrong place. I wanted to let you all know about a scam I recently discovered.
There was an ad in the newspaper about a 2 year old dog with the email address [email protected]. Upon emailing the "owner" you will receive a response that the guy is a missionary living in Africa and cannot keep the dog, and he also has another dog, both of which are free to a good home... you just have to split the shipping cost with him.
I know this is probably an old one but I thought someone here might have fun with it. Please let me know if anyone converses with this guy! I'd love to hear about it.
Mod edit to mask email. - JF |
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Juan Freizwidatt
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Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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Location: Hanging out at In-n-Out
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:07 am |
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I have edited the email address out of the OP because we only allow them when the full particulars of the scam are included (the lad's format as well as the headers). This is to ensure that only lads are targeted. Feel free to post the full email in the Surplus Letters forum.
Unfortunately puppy scams are big business. The stories vary but the results are invariably the same -- fees needed to cover shipping, or vet bills, or customs fees, or whatever. These are insidious scams because, like romance scams, they prey on good people's emotions. No one can accuse such victims of greed. |
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"HOW DOES IT SOUND TO YOU THAT ANOTHER PERSON IS DEALING WITH YOU AND ASK YOU TO CONTACT ANOTHER PERSON AND NOW YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THE OTHER PERSON WITHOUT THE KNOWING OF THE PERSON THAT ASK YOU TO CONTACT THE OTHER PERSON"
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UbuntuKid
Master Baiter
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
Posts: 156
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:04 am |
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Could you scan the newspaper ad?
The reason why the above policy exists is because people could make posts similar to yours, with their (insert anyone they hate... ex, coworker, boss, etc)'s email. |
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blah
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1775
Location: Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm |
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Took it upon myself to inquire about his puppies.
Here's what I got.
He's in gmail, so no header info really. He also attached a few pictures of a young Yorkie.
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Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.150.156.9 with SMTP id d9cs39856ybe;
Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:50:45 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.114.14.8 with SMTP id 8mr478112wan.76.1239162644034; Tue, 07
Apr 2009 20:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:50:43 -0700
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Subject: Regarding My Puppies
From: jude bradley <[email protected]>
To: M Mark <[email protected]>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=0016364176853778d70467030992
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364176853778cd0467030990
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear xxx
Thanks for the interest getting my puppies. Kindly note that i have 2
yorkies,one male and one female which i'm willing to get a new home for.
The male is named jack while the Female is named kati,jack is 14 weeks old
while kati is 13 1/2 weeks old ,and jack weigh 2.5lbs while kati weigh
3lbs.Also, it was due to my missionary call that make me want to get them a
new home. Me my three kids together with the pups are here in Africa for
our missionary call.
So, after a while, i noticed that the weather here in Africa is very bad for
the pups health and i'm thinking to get them a new home back to the state.
Also, please be informed that i'm not selling this pups to you but i'm
giving them away for free to a good home where they'll be at rest and cared
for.
I don't know if you'll prefer to take both pups or you prefer to take either
the male or female,but i will be glad if you can take them both because i
have never separated them before and them love each other so much. Please
let me know if you can create a good home for the pups.
Kindly note that you and i will be splitting out the shipment cost of the
puppies to you.Please get back to me if you're interested and please provide
me with your telephone number for me to contact you immediately.
Thanks and God bless you.
Best Regards,
Jude Bradley.
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Craig007
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3123
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:39 pm |
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A colleague of mine was nearly scammed by one of them - I am awaiting information from her so I can bait this guy. However much I dislike pets, I understand other people can grow quite attached to them, and it is a stupid thing to capitalise upon. |
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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:04 pm |
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UbuntuKid wrote: |
Could you scan the newspaper ad?
The reason why the above policy exists is because people could make posts similar to yours, with their (insert anyone they hate... ex, coworker, boss, etc)'s email. |
I don't have the ad anymore I told a friend of mine about the email and he introduced me to this site after I'd already tossed the newspaper in the trash. Next time I'll make sure to get a picture of it. |
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blah
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1775
Location: Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:05 pm |
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I've started on him already. He good with quick replies. |
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With all due respect. you nothing but a cheap scum.idoit and heartless man!! - Turkey Smith
please daddy don't lunch your powers on Mr.alex! - my "son".
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M7CN Mangler+SecSh1eld+Allst@r= How dear you make me go thru such stress.. - Fr@nk West
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ScammedOut
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 1440
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:13 pm |
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Yorkie puppies? I thought it was a 2 year old dog?
I would be sure to inform him that I work with rescued dogs, and no one should give away intact purebreds for free. Of course you want to pay him an adoption fee. |
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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:16 pm |
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ScammedOut wrote: |
Yorkie puppies? I thought it was a 2 year old dog?
I would be sure to inform him that I work with rescued dogs, and no one should give away intact purebreds for free. Of course you want to pay him an adoption fee. |
But what do you do when they ask for your name and address to ship the dogs? Give them a fake one? The address of a McDonalds? |
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blah
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1775
Location: Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:20 pm |
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@puppypurchase
Here's what I use.
http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/gen-male-us-us.php
I'm asking him how "aggressive" Yorkies are, as I am interested in starting up a dog-fighting ring for Yorkies and other small breeds. |
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With all due respect. you nothing but a cheap scum.idoit and heartless man!! - Turkey Smith
please daddy don't lunch your powers on Mr.alex! - my "son".
M7CN Mangler - 1998 clicks. This process is absolutely embarassing. - Sgt. Jones
M7CN Mangler+SecSh1eld+Allst@r= How dear you make me go thru such stress.. - Fr@nk West
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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:22 pm |
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No need to quote the post above, as we can see it. P
Ahahahaha, oh do let me know what he says. |
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B8er
Associate Boomdazzler
Joined: 16 Feb 2009
Posts: 13625
Location: In self-isolation practicing social distancing
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:42 pm |
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I've been assured by him that they get on well with other animals, I had to ask as I'm worried about my pet haggis she's such a timmid little thing. |
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Inkerman
419Eater is my life
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 384
Location: North of the Border
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:58 pm |
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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:05 pm |
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I've emailed and asked him if his dogs are circus trained to play the piano. As I'm sure he knows, it's illegal to adopt a dog in Utah without training it in piano. |
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Master of Puppets
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Posts: 3294
Location: Pulling the Strings
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:15 pm |
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What's more... Here in Holland the dog's need to be trained to use the bathroom (just like we do), and there needs to be photographic proof to support his claim that they are trained. |
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blah
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1775
Location: Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:47 pm |
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He doesn't seem to keen on sending their pedigrees to me before the purchase.
Just sent this off.
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Dear Jude,
I understand that you want me to take your word for it, but you have to understand exactly where I am coming from. I have been scammed by internet fraudstars before with purchases of miniature fighting animals, and I have lost a lot of money when the little fuckers got their asses kicked by pure-breds.
I am certain that you have others interested in your dogs, I too have other people that are trying to sell me their dogs.
If I am going to put the Yorkies up against other Yorkies in the ring, then I just need some assurance that they are 100% pure-bred fighting Yorkies.
Sincerely
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With all due respect. you nothing but a cheap scum.idoit and heartless man!! - Turkey Smith
please daddy don't lunch your powers on Mr.alex! - my "son".
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M7CN Mangler+SecSh1eld+Allst@r= How dear you make me go thru such stress.. - Fr@nk West
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ScammedOut
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 1440
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:49 pm |
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PuppyPurchaser, you live in Hawaii, right?
The lad does know that prior to shipping he needs to fill out a of bunch of complicated forms and spend a bit of money, doesn't he?
Maybe he can start with this:
http://hawaii.gov/hdoa/ai/aqs/AQS-278.pdf |
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manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 4816
Location: Connecting my chair and keyboard
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:08 pm |
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Badger Grylls
Chemically Abused
Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 395
Location: Outlying Wastelands of Bolton
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:09 pm |
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Has anyone tried Shiver's exotic meat modality yet? |
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PuppyPurchaser
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:15 pm |
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Beautiful forms~! I've informed my lad that due to my being in Utah I will need scanned vet papers and a photo of one of the pups on the piano... I can tweak these forms to be Utah certified I'm sure. |
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blah
Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1775
Location: Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:22 pm |
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Still doesn't want to send me pedigree papers.
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Mark,
Thanks very much for the quick response.I understand where you are coming.i am aware of the scams going on around the globe.I myself i need assurance that my pups will be taken good care of and not giving them to you then when it gets to you you will have them sold to another person.
This is why i am spliting the shippment charges with you to have you convinced that i am not giving out some mutts miniature yorkies.otherwise you will have to take care of the charges alone.already i have paid my half with them now and the dogs will be taken to them as soon as your part has been recieved and hopefully the pups would move tonite if not then tommorow morning.
You have my word mr Mark.my pups are akc registerd and every papers will accompany them.let me know what you the status is now.the shipping office dont stay all day.I await your response. |
Am not quite satisfied though.
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Dear Jude,
I will be off to the Western 0nion in a minute or so. Could you answer a couple more questions on the dogs please?
How are their tempers? I have found that animals tend to get angry when they are purposely beaten and starved. Whereas the anger that they harbor helps them do well in the fights, I am hesitant to let them be around my kids. Are they aggressive? I like aggressive Yorkies that really know when and how to attack their opponent(s).
Regards |
Maybe he's in denial that I intend to pit his dogs up against each other in a dog-fighting ring. |
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With all due respect. you nothing but a cheap scum.idoit and heartless man!! - Turkey Smith
please daddy don't lunch your powers on Mr.alex! - my "son".
M7CN Mangler - 1998 clicks. This process is absolutely embarassing. - Sgt. Jones
M7CN Mangler+SecSh1eld+Allst@r= How dear you make me go thru such stress.. - Fr@nk West
<a href="/forum/donate.php">[Click here for dirty nasty pr0n!!1]</a>
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Vulcan
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Posts: 55
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:14 pm |
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PuppyPurchaser wrote: |
ScammedOut wrote: |
Yorkie puppies? I thought it was a 2 year old dog?
I would be sure to inform him that I work with rescued dogs, and no one should give away intact purebreds for free. Of course you want to pay him an adoption fee. |
But what do you do when they ask for your name and address to ship the dogs? Give them a fake one? The address of a McDonalds? |
Give them a fake address. You don't want to give them an address of an innocent third party (mcdonalds)
You can make a really fake sounding address and they'll usually not say anything about it. Always use a fake name and an email address that isn't tied to any real email of yours. |
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ScammedOut
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 1440
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Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:34 pm |
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You have my word mr Mark.my pups are akc registerd and every papers will accompany them |
He isn't a very good scammer. These puppies probably cost 800$ - 1200$ each from a reputable AKC breeder.
You also need him to scan and send the AKC papers, since you've been duped by backyard breeders before and got dud puppies. It would be fun to see him send some Googled pedigrees of St.Bernards that were born in 1999.
ETA As a dog lover, I just had to get in on this one. Can't wait for the reply.
Later..I sent this:
HI!
I"m inquiring about your puppies! I've been trying to find dogs like these but none are available in my area!
Please tell me something about them - age size colour are they housetrained and how much you want for them?? How much to send them to canada? do they have pedigrees? Will they be okay with the cold weather we have here? We do have summer but its not very long! I would give thema great home!!
I hope theyre still available! Plse answer asap!!
Thanks
mrs. B3tty Wh1te
He didn't answer any of my questions but just sent the same cut/paste reply everyone got.
He did include pics, stolen from someone's site:
http://tinyurl.com/chgfuf |
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B8er
Associate Boomdazzler
Joined: 16 Feb 2009
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Location: In self-isolation practicing social distancing
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Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:06 am |
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^^^ Did you get any kennel club papers? He told me that he didn't have access to a scanner, so I got him to send me the dog's kennel names and the details of their parents.
It's good to know that the puppies are well taken care of though, they have had all of their innoculations and
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...they also recieved full anti-matter treatment when they got here |
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_________________ "I DENOUNCE THE MUFFIN MEN" - Ma Kim
"YOU ARE WALKING DEAD MAN. YOUR WOODEN COFFIN IS READY TO SWALLOW YOU AND YOUR DIRTY GENERATION"
"all chaps are ass-less by design otherwise they just be leather pants" - jose_cuervo
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x 335 🚽
x 4 x 1746 x 1904 - Fake cheques: $4,392,620.83
Team Woody - Ghana to Singapore - 11535km |
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Yastreb
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Location: Leading my wolf pack
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Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:17 am |
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...they also recieved full anti-matter treatment when they got here |
How big an explosion would that be, I wonder? |
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