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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:28 pm |
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I have a dilemma that I would like some advice on from some veteran scambaiters. I have a guy on the line that I think will join my church and get a tattoo which will include the phrase "I Give BJ's". I would love to send him an email after he gets the tattoo that would totally crush him and explain the meaning of the phrase. I want to totally unleash on him for what a fool he is. My dilemma is I have read that you really are not supposed to do that. You should always make him feel as if the money is right around the corner and that if things do not work out that he is left wondering what happened. I would really like to go off on him.
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asiaguy
Elite Baiter
Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 1180
Location: Me Luv U Long Time
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:33 pm |
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If you have a Lad to the stage of tattoo, then why blow him up?
You can inflict more lad pain by keeping him on the hook for even more outlandish fun and games.
I've blown up a few lads and I later regretted it.
Usually I read a great idea on this board and wish I had the "silly putty in my hands" lad back to try the idea on.
The tattoo is just the beginning for any lad who is actually willing to get a tattoo! |
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fuck off and never contact me any more get this insult to your entire family (Barrister Philip Nowoke after 9 futile trips to WU)
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Captain Pike
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:35 pm |
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I don't believe in letting the lad know he's been burned. I want him vulnerable for any future baiters that he might encounter. |
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JMRazor
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:42 pm |
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^^^ Agreed. It's much more satisfying to run the lad through the mill for a year and then, when he questions all he has done for you, leave him hanging.
And you never know -- 6 months later you may hear back from him asking about doing business with you again. |
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manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 4816
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:47 pm |
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Don't hit the button! Instead, if he is too compliant and gets boring, pass him onto somebody! Compliant muppet lads are useful for those safaris where you need someone on the ground to act as a convincer/hitman/etc |
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Corona
Baiting Guru
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 8809
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:50 pm |
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Plus, we don't want them to know about us.
I just got a mail from a lad that haven't heard from in a year.
He still believes he can get money from me.
I have missed him. |
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dh_mac
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Joined: 21 Nov 2007
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:30 pm |
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Corona, Manbiteslion, JM, asiaguy et all.. I concur.
If you can get your crooked church friend to get some ink, and hopefully a bad one, then this is really the breaking point & the start of a Lad who really wants to jump through more hoops. Hell, maybe he can spread the word to his other knuckle dragging scamming buddies to get even more tattoo's. (.. you could open a local chapter of your faux church with idiot boy being the go between.. ) This has been done in the past with moderate success.
My vote is to just *drift* off into the sunset if things go south. You just never know with Lad logic with him always wondering what happened to you after you were dropped.. maybe he'll pass your email address to another scummy friend.. and yes, I've had a few idiots come back to haunt me and requesting $ after months of being MIA. If anything, this shows that they are more then keen & in their head, they feel that they still have some upper hand or their past story was somehow believable.
Remember: go slow.. and wave lots of money around him to show his new found 'faith' |
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
Posts: 1192
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:33 pm |
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Thanks for the responses. After reading them I have had a change of heart. Trust me, I would really like to blast a lad, but I understand your points and will keep da bait a goin'.
Now, I need a new piece of advice. After he gets the tattoo, how do I continue the bait without giving him the money? I am not talking about complaining of Western Union problems that are short term solutions. I would like some ideas to make this a much longer term bait. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:50 pm |
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:34 pm |
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C'mon, doesn't anyone have some advice on how to keep a lad on the line after he has followed through on getting a tattoo? What have some of you done to keep things going? I am very close to the lad getting his tattoo and I do not want to run out of time and then lose him after the time it took to get here. Any suggestions would be welcome. |
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Cachuma
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 May 2007
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:52 pm |
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I haven't done a church bait myself, but I'd suggest going into the 419Eater main site and reading some of Shiver's old church baits. I can't point you to a specific one, but I recall that he was able to string along some lads for an inhuman amount of time without ever actually sending them the money. You might get some ideas there. Also, a lot of it depends on what exactly you've been telling the lad, so it's hard to advise unless we've seen the bait. One thing I've done in the past is had my main baiting character get killed (hit by a bus - literally!) and then had another baiting character take over. You could do something like that...
Or, how about this? There's mutiny afoot in your church, and you've all had to pick sides, so your lad is going to have to choose which splinter branch of the church to join. And that will initiate a whole new set of joining rituals, as well as forms he'll have to fill out to declare his allegiance to your branch, and attest to his hatred of the other branch.
I'm just brainstorming here, but I hope you get the idea. Once you've gotten a lad to the tatoo stage, you can get as creative and outlandish as you want because clearly he's as gullible as they come! |
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manbiteslion
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:24 pm |
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Once he has the tattoo he needs to make his friends get the tattoo next... |
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:39 pm |
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You see that is exactly what I would like to do, but I was looking for advice on how to keep them going without receiving the promised donation. I have an idea in my head where the reverend is murdered and I could go a few directions from there, but I am hoping for a better idea where I could keep things going and add more "members". |
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Cachuma
Baiting Guru
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:53 pm |
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bobjohnson wrote: |
You see that is exactly what I would like to do, but I was looking for advice on how to keep them going without receiving the promised donation. |
Um...I'm not sure what you're saying. I hope you don't think I was suggesting that you actually send them the "promised donation"! My advice was specifically about keeping the bait going without sending the donation. Personally I like my idea of having the church go through a splintering - that would be an excellent reason for all donations to be halted until each member declares their allegiance to one of the offshoots, and performs all-new initiation rites. But if you don't like my idea, fine. Murdered reverends are always fun. |
_________________ Alex Mandl4: The past week has been the worst in my entire life, I have lost weight, I don't sleep at night, I left my job abruptly, and do you think it has been easy for?
Master Nicholas Radf@rd: I must confess that i am higly obliged to be a cretin, it is a rare privilegde.
= Mr. Mandl4 & Mr. Brown, 1480 total miles: Johannesburg to Gaborone; Gaborone to Maun; Back to Gaborone; back to Johannesburg.
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:22 pm |
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Ha, ha, have no fear. They will never get a dime from me!! It is not that I do not like your idea, but I was looking more for a brainstorming session. I wanted a bunch of ideas to think over. I have a really good bait going and want to make the most of it. -C- has already lended me his services and talked with the lad and it has worked out marvelously. The lad believes with all his heart that he is about to receive truckloads of money. I want to make the most of this opportunity. |
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Master of Puppets
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IM_Dumm
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Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:54 pm |
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There are many ways to keep stringing him along with a church bait.
There can be issues among the church board about his membership (some holding out for even more action, or not believing the tattoo is real). You can even promise more church money if he complies.
The church treasurer can run off with the money to buy you time.
There can be numerous issues with that pesky church paperwork. (Ask him why you haven't received his "fill in the blank of some form you never sent him or mentioned before").
Tell him you have fallen out of the church's good graces for being caught with a: prostitute, goat, goat and a prostitute...etc. and pass him to another persona who has to start the application process over again...
The ideas are endless. |
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bobjohnson
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:32 pm |
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Thanks, that gave me some ideas. I think I may have what I am looking for. I might try and add a safari into the mix. I think I will go with the forms, then have the church divide in a bitter feud, followed by the safari to meet me, when I am killed by possibly the rival church group.
Any other ideas are certainly welcome...this is a work in progress!! |
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Cachuma
Baiting Guru
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:02 pm |
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^^^So basically you're using every idea! It's a smorgasbord of lad pain. I love it! |
_________________ Alex Mandl4: The past week has been the worst in my entire life, I have lost weight, I don't sleep at night, I left my job abruptly, and do you think it has been easy for?
Master Nicholas Radf@rd: I must confess that i am higly obliged to be a cretin, it is a rare privilegde.
= Mr. Mandl4 & Mr. Brown, 1480 total miles: Johannesburg to Gaborone; Gaborone to Maun; Back to Gaborone; back to Johannesburg.
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softie
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:20 pm |
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One of my favorite Shiver church baits got to the point of the donation being sent and the shivers character got disillusioned by the death of his dear friend Mini Mouse. He was so disillusioned he ran off with the money and joined a circus, becoming a clown. He kept promising to pay the money back to the lad as soon as he made it big, writing often, sending photo's. Meanwhile shiver is also baiting the lad as a different member of the same church the lad just got through the initiation with. Of course this member was very sympathetic but as the runaway member had taken/destroyed all of his records, the indoctrination would have to start from scratch again. I mean rules are rules right? The runaway character in the end invested in a very successful snow importation business in the untapped market of siberia, where they obviously need more snow and have to import it. So it comes time to finally pay back the stolen indoctrination payout and he is killed in tragic circumstances.
At least I think thats how it went. My memory is a little sketchy at the moment it 7.15am here and I have been up all night tryna meet my RL deadlines.
My point is let your imagination run wild! One thing I notice with the truly hilarious and successful baits is they seem to always have multiple characters. The Lads do it too, it adds to the realism in some way.
I highly recommend having a read of Shivers work in the letters archive. Endless opportunity there to spark a plot in your brain to keep this lad in a world of pain. Good-luck!! |
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Tom_Phillips
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Location: Denial
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:50 pm |
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bobjohnson
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
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Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:27 pm |
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Thanks for the responses. I will look into them. If I need assistance I know where to look! |
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x6 2 for the hitlad B@l@ H@$$@n
:safari:x2 The infamous hitlad B@l@ H@$$@n
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Connie L. Gus
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Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:40 pm |
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Hi BJ,
One of the things you will see is that lads are lazy and they screw up. I may seem that you have on about to send you a photo of his tatoo but getting it is remote. I have never tried for one but I know about church rituals. The biggest thing is that the lads submissions are always crap. No Evangelism Committee would ever approve payment. Its not your fault, its the lads. |
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bobjohnson
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Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:42 pm |
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I hear what you are saying, but I do feel very confident the tattoo is coming. How good will it be? That remains to be seen. This bait has taken a LOT of emails to get to this point. I have had to pull out a lot of my weapons, but I finally have this guy hooked. He is very cooperative so I do not want to go down the route of insulting him or saying what he did isn't good enough. He has shown a little brains by researching on the internet as well, but not enough brains to be dangerous. He has even admitted to being a scammer. I of course have forgiven him. He is going to do a lot of good with this money. |
_________________ x37 1 for the hitlad B@l@ H@$$@n
x6 2 for the hitlad B@l@ H@$$@n
:safari:x2 The infamous hitlad B@l@ H@$$@n
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Captain Pike
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Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:55 pm |
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Here's a thought that just arrived a few moments ago.
Right when you are ready to send the donation, have the head of the church get killed in a ghastly motor accident (if you can time it so that the accident happens on 21 April it would be ironic....that seems to be the favorite fatal accident date in a lot of NOK letters that I get).
Then it will take three weeks or so to get a new head of church identified and installed.
And guess what? The new head will want things done in a new way due to a divine inspiration.
Before the head of the church meets his demise, it would be wise for a lay person who's part of the "Executive Church Council" be writing the lad. That way, this lay person can break the news to the lad, and then keep the lad apprised of the transition progress. Then the new head of the church takes it from there, and starts the initiation of the lad all over again. |
_________________ x13 x5 (393 days)
"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.
"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007
"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007
As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation. |
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