A Special Tape Lad

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:07 pm

Hello there! This is my first bait, I was still waiting for a scammer to message my baiting email, but then I had the opportunity to bait a lad by messaging him first, I got the scamming email from this topic. I started posting my baiting there, but now I decided to make my own topic, I don't want to hijack his topic!

First, some background information about my character:

He is , a videogame character from SEGA, you probably know him, it's the flying two-tailed fox, Sonic's sidekick!
I'm using the character "plot" from the american Sonic comicbook series.

Most of the baiting is quite boring, but I will add almost all emails for completeness' sake!

Here is the format this lad is using:

Lad wrote:

Hello
How are you doing? well i just want you to know that if i am not a good guy i would go high than what i am to let you know.
I found a TAPE with i guess you wouldn't want the Public, Friends and Family to know about.
I am going to make this as easy as possible.
You dont have to know who is behind this email. But just know that, you know me and i know you too well.
Have a Nice Day."

The lad didn't sent me this message, as I was the one who started the "conversation".

I started with a do-it-all message:

I wrote:

Hi, sorry about the delay, but I'm really shocked, please reply with more information.

Lad wrote:

hey, If the tape should go out, your life and things you have worked for would all go. so are u ready to get the tape back?

I wrote:

Calm down man, this is not a joking matter, if the tape shows what I think it does, it's the end for me, I probably know who you are, I knew you were going to do something like that...

Nothing like a bit of personality!

Lad wrote:

Hello,
You Have 5 hrs after reading this mail to transfer the sum of $1000 usd

to a name and address i would give to you now, if you like try and play smart, then i would let you know who i am.
after sending this money i would then know if you are ready to have the tape or not... but until then if i wait and dont get a reply from you soon, confirming the payment you would get a link on where its been uploaded on the net... then i would share it to everyone you have ever know....

Name:
Address: London UK
Westernunion money transfer.

And if anything happens to the person who would pick the money over there,
I guess i would not tell you what will happen.

So you have 5hrs to do this.
just know that i willl know when this mail have been read.

Have a lovely day ahead.

His scripted email, and a failed attempt at sarcast at the end, still nothing special!

I wrote:

Sorry, but I don't know how this Westerunion [deliberate typo] thing works, I will go to this place and ask how to works there, but I live far from the city, my plane just broke and I'm too tired to fly by myself, I will have to use a bus, but it's REALLY far! I'm going ASAP.

Tails likes planes, and he can fly with his two tails too!
I made and excuse to not answer for some hours because I was going to sleep!

Lad wrote:

Hey you could save your self the time... which you dont have, and pay online.
www.westernunion.com

with your credit card.

Sorry buddy, too late now!

Lad, almost 6 hours later wrote:

Hey i guess you have some little mins left, i should have had from you....in the next 1hr you ass would go down.. so reply me.....NOW!!!

Sadly, Tails is still far from home.

I wrote:

Oh great, I was in the city! It's pretty far you know! I googled "Miles helping Ivo" and there's nothing, you gave me a second chance, right? Please give me a second chance, I was in the city!!!

A bit of repetition to show nervosism.

Ivo is Robotnik's (partial) real name, he is basically the big bad antagonist.

Lad wrote:

Well you are paying $2,500 for the tape now or i blow out!!!

Wasn't it $1000?

I wrote:

Ok ok! I will pay it! What do I need to do?!

Lad wrote:

do you have a credit card?

Lad wrote:

Hey go to the nearest westernunion of and make the payment to the name belows

Name:
address: London.
Amount $1000

Names: Ice Gold
Address London
Amount $1500

I wrote:

I told my friend Ivo about you, he said that I should ask for a photo of the tape, with a proof that it's new.

Photograph the tape with this email printed in the background, then I will believe you!

It's photo time!

Lad wrote:

For any other Request i will call it quit and do what i feel like...that is uploading the content of the tape. so if i get you the picture it would be $3000
then if any other thing i would call the shot here.

I'm not so sure about that, you will still have to fill some weird forms!

I wrote:

Oh, and I forgot to tell you, I want my name near/in the tape!

Oops, I knew I forgot to tell him something!

Then he messaged me with the photo:

Lad wrote:

hey this is what you asked first, nothing else.

No no no! It's totally wrong, I wanted the content of the email, not the address!

He sent another message too:

Lad wrote:

FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. WATCH YOUR NEXT MAIL. IT MAY CHANGE MY MOOD. NOW GO AND TO THE PAYMENT ONLINE OR AN AGENT. NOW!!!

NOW!!!? But I still want to have so much fun!

I wrote:

I told you that I wanted the content of the message in the photo! Not the email itself! I use this email for months, that's not a proof that it's real! If you really want the money, you will have to show me this tape is from today!

Lad wrote:

OH!!!
THAT MEANS U DONT NEED THE TAPE.....
DONT THINK THIS ABOUT THE MONEY OK.

WELL I TOLD U TO WATCH UR NEXT MAIL....

I GUESS I WONT BE NEEDING THE MONEY AFTER UPLOADING THE TAPE.

Nooo! Please! I really need this tape!!!

I wrote:

I want the tape, IF IT'S REAL! You can easily take a photo of your screen or write down my message, if you cannot do that, IT'S NOT REAL!

Angry and impatient lad wrote:

WAT DO U NEED ME TO WRITE ON THE TAPE? CAUSE U ARE NOT GETTING ANY SCREEN SHOT.

I already told him what to do, but I understand, it's not easy to keep track of so many conversations with various baiters!

I wrote:

I told you already, I want the tape with my name on it, and the content of my message on it, here is the message that you need to print or write down:

[My first request]

Don't forget my name!

Lad wrote:

He wrote my entire message in this piece of paper! Good boy! Laughing

I wrote:

I think this photo is enough, I believe you now, I will pay you, how do I pay?

And I have a question: ? I knew it!

Colin is Snively's real name, he is basically Robotnik's favorite thug. (Me and my inside jokes!)

I sent another message 1 hour later, basically begging, and then 2 hours later he sent:

Lad wrote:

Hey what are you still waiting for? are u sleeping?

Duh, you cannot expect me to remember the silly account information! Send it again, lazy bastard!

I won't quote the account information again now.

I wrote:

I tried to send the money, but then Western Union said that you will have to fill this 2-page form that I am attaching now.

I attached form A and D of the fake Western Union Anti-Scam Forms.

Quote:

Send it via Money gram
West Frank
London

He told me to use Money gram now, but uh oh, they have anti-terrorism forms too!

I wrote:

Oh, my friend Maurice Hedgehog told me there is a Money gram in Knothole, it's much closer than Western Union! Ok then, I will go...

Maurice Hedgehog is Sonic's (partial) real name, Knothole is the secret village the "good" characters live in. Yeah, more useless Sonic information for you!

Lad wrote:

when u get there make sure u dont tell them anything, just tell them u wanna send the money to a relative

Oh yeah, to make sure they don't tell me you are a scammer!

I wrote:

When I got there they told me that you will have to fill this questionnaire! They also told me that if you don't follow all rules at the top of the file, you will have to answer another questionnaire...
I asked if they are all using this kind of form, and then said yes, because of a new law that Obama accepted!

I attached the P.R.A.T. Anti-Terrorism form 2, I used only this part because you don't need to insert personal information to fill it.

Lad wrote:

hey i wont fill any form for any reason. if you like fill it if you like dont but the next mail i promise would be a link on where i post the tape.
your choice, and tell them i am a family member.

He wants the money or not?

I wrote:

I cannot complete the payment if you don't fill the questionnaire! I already told them you are a family member, but they still want you to fill it, it's not asking for any personal information, they cannot find out who you are by those simple questions!

Lad wrote:

hold on let em go and find where to print it.

Lad wrote:

Hey am i filling it online it here or what? cause i just print it came out very small i cant even see it.

What? He is probably trying to print the preview of the attachment, oh well, looks like I will have to explain the art of downloading attachments...

I wrote:

You need to DOWNLOAD the attachment first! The small image you printed is probably just a "preview" of the file...

Lad wrote:

Hey this is not the first time i have recevied money from money gram or westernunion. now you fill that form urself and give to them or your tape is out.

now go to another agent and tell them you are sending money to your brother and its urgent,
with this name

London.

and be careful of what you say when you get there. this is your last chance.

Aaaw, he is too dumb to print a file! And how many last chances to I have left?

I wrote:

I tried to tell them it's urgent before, but this law if very rigid, and if I insist they are going to suspect you and me. I cannot fill the form myself, they already know my writing style, it won't be hard to notice it's mine!

Why don't you simply fill the questionnaire? You don't need to include personal information!

Maybe you don't want to write it because I know your writing style, and may recognize you? That's it?

Now it's fill or drop!

I wrote:

hey this si the form.

Hope there wont be any other problem

He attached two images, looks like his scanner is too small to scan an A4 paper, or he is just too dumb. Now I will have to spin and photoshop them together!
The original images are quite big, 1584 by 2288 pixels, I cropped and provided thumbnails to save dial-up connections and small screens:

I will add the photoshopped version later!

Also, note a very interesting thing. The filenames of the images are Contract 008 and Contract 009. He already had to fill at least 4 of them! Should I tell him that this is very suspicious?

Lad, EXACTLY 1 hour later wrote:

Hey if i dnt hear from you i would guess the money wont be sent. then i would go ahead and do what i feel.

I wrote:

Ok, I showed up with the forms, but they said something like this:

"We tried to verify the questionnaire, but our automated machine detected a disturbing variance in the writing, bla bla bla, also, the ink used is too black or something."

Oh well, what should I do now?

Oh, too bad, now he will have to fill more forms. I just hope that it's not too ridiculous for him! (But this lad is really special!)

Lad wrote:

thats ur own problem. print the form and fill it urself or else?

fill it ur self and take it to them.

Uh oh, this might be a problem! I really don't want to drop this guy, maybe I should break the form barriers and bring another problem?

This is my first bait, but I hope you like it!

I will be updating this post with new messages!
What do you think that I should do next?

(If you notice any typo or error, please report it!)

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:57 pm

So he's bribing you with something on a video tape? What a modality. Has he told you what the tape contains? You tell him that you have so many secrets you want to know specifically what is on the tape. If it was that hit'n'run you did while drink driving then you want it.

Also, great work with the PR@T forms. I never get tired of lads filling these out. You could hit him up with a few of the other forms I've made. Some pages from the WU forms?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:20 pm

This lad has no creativity whatsoever, so I really doubt he will come up with something clever, he will just get angry and say he will "relaese teh tape".

Thanks! I tried to use 2 pages from the WU forms before, but he refused to fill them and told me to use Money gram instead, he only filled the P.R.A.T one because I told him that all banks are using this kind of form now! I think it's too late to go back to WU now, but I will try to make him fill more forms. When he gets bored of me I'm even going to try try a safari, but I really doubt this lazy lad will leave his chair, he is just a newbie!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:25 pm

The lad doesn't like the WU forms... I sent him E and F but he then told me to use Money Gram and sent me callisto's PRAT-forms...
Pure genius..

I will of course be telling him that the Money Gram computers refused them because they had already been used once... He'll pay for his laziness..

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:26 pm

Callisto, any chance on teaming up for that safari? By pushing him around a bit, we might just get him there Wink

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:28 pm

Haha, I will try, but I really doubt it will work! Just look at him, he cannot even fill a form! Maybe we can if we add a fake lad to "help" our little friend... But I don't speak ladish!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:53 pm

Nor do I... But this lad doesn't speak that laddish at all... So we might just use an educated "oxford" lad?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:25 pm

He probably speaks ladish, maybe this lad is too "little" to make a safari, but if we can keep him until the inevitable failure of all Money gram computers, we can always ask for some help from the ladish-speaking forum members!

Also, I photoshopped his form:

It's kind of hard to read, but I think the answer for the "Have you performed acts of kindness? Name 2 you did today?" is "Print Something for a Friend". Am I right?

He sent this email some time ago:

Lad wrote:

thats ur own problem. print the form and fill it urself or else?

fill it ur self and take it to them.

Maybe this is the right time to slooowly ask for a safari? But we need to remember that we think that he is a close friend/enemy that taped our dirty little secrets, it would be really weird to try to meet a stranger in another country because of a silly tape!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:43 pm

Yeah.. I still haven't told (tolled? I must be retarded) him that his form has been refused as I haven't arrived at the office yet...

Might we be co-workers who think another coworker/mutual friend has filmed us or stolen a tape?
Or will we make him do a small double safari? Provided he is in London we will both be at the 'other end of the city' and meet him a few hours apart?
Other ideas?

EDIT: He might even be that coworker that was just fired an decided to emigrate?
EDIT2: Fixed retarded spellingmistake
EDIT3: Maybe so many people have tried to send money to mr "W3st Fr4nk" through either Money Gram or Western Union that those to companies have decided all transfers to him will be blocked for about a week? And as that is the case... Well, we probably have to meet him and transfer the money? Or he might just have to give us a bank account, which we'll then pass on to dear Alan to get it blocked due to fraud. And a blocked bank account that is being investigated does of course provide lots of opportunity for doubt or an even stronger reason for.... brace yourself... safari!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:03 pm

I checked his IP and he seems to be from Nigeria (Surprise!), Lagos city.

First, we need to make him forget about bank transfers, we will then have to remind him that there is a hope... This guy is a prick, he won't do anything by himself, so we need to be friendly, we can even give him some presents, to "make sure he never tells anyone about the tape".

Some 100% risky free and compleatly legal expert's advice is encouraged!

My message to him:

I wrote:

This Money gram thing is certainly not going to work this way, we need another way of payment, do you have any ideas?

Let's see if his brain works... a bit...
Nope!

Lad wrote:

hey why dont you fill the form......
write wat ever you want on it and takt to them (westernunion)

see i would not discuss anything else with you again.
this si the last i would for you.

Maybe we should introduce our lad saying that he is doing everything wrong?

I requested for a mentor, I hope we can get one soon, this lad might be a problem even for a safari expert!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:45 pm

I just told my lad that his form bounced due to it already being used once...
I also asked him if my attorney didn't send any more mails (because he wasn't allowed to anymore). If it turns out that he has, I'll be mad at the attorney who will then tell the lad he has valuable information and wishes to help in exchange for a share of the loot...

LOL-EDIT: He just decided he's gonna fill out those WU-forms anyway...

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:06 pm

We might indeed need to introduce an extra lad.. But what will we make this lad do? Break into one of our e-mail accounts? Is there an experienced lad-actor around here?

In addition to that I'm going to try and get my lad to say that my attorney contacted him, so I can become angry and make my attorney switch sides. Then I've got someone with 'inside information' near to him, which could be a strong persuader...

EDIT: I also have a pending mentor-request. Not just for this though, I got about half a plan for something to _really_ humiliate a lad (inspired by bombardi3rs stuntman-bait)

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:13 pm

I think we can introduce the second lad by saying that ANOTHER person came up and said he has the tape, and of course, we tell the real lad's email address to the fake one, because something fishy is going on! Then the fake lad messages the real one saying that he is doing everything wrong, he can ask for even more money, and even make the scammed person travel to pay the money, no boring forms!

I think I'm going to sleep now, we also need to train our (real) lad to wait more time before thinking that it's time to use the scare scripts.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:19 pm

Nice one... I'm done with my lad for today too. I'll be off in a few hours and won't be back for the rest of the evening anyway.. And it will take exactly as many time for my character to get back from the MG-office.
Will you set up the fake lad? If you do, send me a mail from the fake lad at [email protected], though that address doesn't contain any numbers Wink

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:24 pm

If nobody comes to help us when I wake up, I will be the lad then! But I will have to research some ladish too.

Even if it doesn't works, I think it's a record, two photos, 1 form, and an attempt at a safari in my first bait! And all this in around 30 hours of baiting! This lad is really really special!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:34 pm

I got three photo's, your form, a scanned contract, lots of last chances and threats. And right now I'm waiting for 2 of NN's WU-forms, which he said he'll be getting at me ASAP.

Then there's two other guy's baiting this lad... I don't think he's done much real scamming the last two days...

And I've now got NN"s WU-forms back too:
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu85/masteroflads/westernunion.jpg
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu85/masteroflads/westernunion1.jpg

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:13 pm

The lads response to the first question on the WU form is hilarious!

Quote:

Because a goat would not stop at a red light so sharing a drink would be funny.

He's got a sense of humour. The rest of his responses are classic. Laughing

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:51 pm

There might still be hope at getting this lad to go on safari.
I got him to make another contract paper, but he wrote it on unlined paper and neatly provided name, date and signature but forgot location. When I pointed this out he got to it and just made me a new one, without me actually asking/begging/demanding it (or at least he said so).
(link: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1332131#1332131 +post above that.)

We might need some pro help on getting him to travel though, anybody want to help us out here?

EDIT: Doesn't M7CN S3cure provide us with automatic IP-trace? I'll direct him there tomorrow and then get a mail from WU that my lad actually comes from Nigeria which of course raises all kinds of scammeralert!! So we'll have to meet him there... on the wrong side of his country...

EDIT2:

Nurse Nasty wrote:

He's got a sense of humour. The rest of his responses are classic. Laughing

Yep, but that's probably the only sense he's got... I'm pretty sure he hasn't got the common one...