Lad Finds Cure For HIV/Aids!

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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:26 pm

I've been in a state of partial retirement (as far as baiting goes) for the past few months, but today I decided to check my catcher account just for giggles. I didn't bother to go through all of my new e-mails, but I did flip through the ones that survived my spam filter. Usually for that to happen, a lad would have to write to me directly (operative word being "usually") which would imply that he is green and hard-working (relatively speaking, of course).

I though I'd seen just about every type of 419-esque scam in existence, but this one is totally new to me. Anyone else come across this?

[email protected] wrote:

HIV AIDS TREATMENT AND CURE HERE.
Are you suffering from the deadly disease know as HIV/AIDS?this is fred will herbal healing center south america (SURINAME). more that 70% of people are leaving with HIV/AIDS around the world.some die everyday due to the fact that the cure has not be found.
But there is only one place were you can get the healing/cure to HIV/AIDS and that is Fred will herbal healing center suriname.we just discovered the herbs to this disease and we have used it to cure more than 400 people from parts of the world.if you are suffering from this disease,contact us through this email address:
[email protected] or Phone: +597 837 3504.for the cure

This really rubbed me the wrong way for two reasons:

Firstly, I'd lived in Africa for many years where the HIV situation can be described as nothing short of an epidemic, despite what the governments try to convince the people. The hardest hit were, of course, those children who are born with HIV. They did nothing to get it, and yet they are born sentenced to a short life of painful degeneration and premature death. This scam trivializes their tragedy in the most unempathetic way possible.

Secondly, since yesterday I've been listening to the annual RADIOTHON on KRXQ. Every year, they run it to raise money for the UC Davis Children's Hospital; with great success, I might add. This scam illegitimatizes this and all other medical-based fundraisers and revolutionary health centers in the most irresponsible way possible.

Suffice it to say, I do plan on fitting dear Dr Willy into my schedule. I guess, why I'm posting though, is because I'm curious as to whether this is some kind of new modality (cure for HIV) or just something that's been largely flying under the radar for a while.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:04 pm

Lady Flossington-Dentyne has dropped him a mail

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:31 pm

I've seen similar, but they always included a host of illnesses that would supposedly be cured through herbalistic magic. I do recall AIDS was included, but they also offered healing for ailments such as "sexual malfunction" and "cancer of the hearts and brains".

So I don't think it's a new script - just one more focused on a specific disease. Apparently this lad's a specialist, not a generalist.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 16 Feb 2009 Posts: 78

Fr3d W1lly - I wonder if he realizes the humor in the connection. Nah....

Hellish Taskmaster Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 537

I've seen stuff for Ayurvedic treatment, but not this.

I've sent him an email. I can say that the AIDS has progressed so badly that I can't walk, and that the only airline that accepts people in wheelchairs is far away, and that he must come and pick me up.
But yeah, these scammers are horrible. The money ones are OK, you buy into them for your own selfish greed. (Not us, the people who actually get victimized) But for these, you think you're trying to help out someone.

Baiting Guru Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 5905

GSN_fan wrote:

But yeah, these scammers are horrible. The money ones are OK, you buy into them for your own selfish greed.

Are they?

I've baited many of the 'money ones' in the past and they are not above sinking to the depths this lad has if they feel they could make a buck out of it. Maybe their initial lie isn't as reprehensible and whether or not you choose to feel pity for victims who appear to have lost money through sheer greed is a point that will be debated forever on here but I wouldn't describe a NOK or an over-invoiced contract sammer as 'ok,' they are still con artists.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:23 pm

Miss Ev4 has just drop him an email about her "s1st3r" who has the disease. She's going to do some great mind f@cking with him.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:22 pm

This man has no shame.

Quote:

You are the one who have HIV not me.
...
you are the one who needs to be cured not me or western union.if you don't provide us with the MTCN number,we will not deliver the medicine to you and you are the one who will be ashame or die when the HIV turns out to be AIDS.

Just makes me hate him more. Although, I would like to see him say that to the face of an HIV patient. Twisted Evil

And if anyone is wondering why he's so pissed, since last week I've gotten him to click on somewhere around 1500 boxes on M7CN S3cure. He seems to have run out of steam though. Poor sod.

Hellish Taskmaster Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 537

At least he is the number one person on secureptv. He has answered 1400 questions. I'm trying to get him to show me the herbs are nontoxic by ingesting them while he is on tape.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:05 pm

Quote:

Hello,
We received your mail, so certainly we are ready to cured your sisther and i am here to tell you that i have cured almost 400 people in the world, and also here in south america, not africa, so we have prepared your sisther medicine to deliver , all we are waiting for is the western union M7CN from you before we can deliver the medicine, as i told you immediately she started taking the medicine, then it we take two month for her to be cured wih the HIV, after let her go for test again, certainly the result must be nagative.
So all you need to do now, is to send the money in a normal process because i want to the western union site for me to retrived the code to get the M7CN number, but is a log process to me, i dont have the time because i have so many people here to cured.
So immediately i received the M7CN number, then i we deliver the medicine to you, so by now you supposed to thank God that you have met some one like me , the i promised you certainly i we cured your sither, all i need from you now is the M7CN number, then live the rest for me and also bleived in God and have faith.
Dr fr3d w1lly.

So the bastard denies that he is from Africa eh? And he's right! His ip points to Pararimbo, Suriname. 3v4 sure feels stupid now, perhaps more mind f@cking is needed.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 518

I hope you guys are giving him hell. Smile

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:32 pm

Quote:

Hello,

We received your western union payment attachment, so one of my worker just want to western union now to cash the money so that we can prepared to deliver your sisther medicine, but the western office here said that the M7CN number is not valid which is here 8078558419, call your western union to verify the M7CN number so that we can cash the money and send your sisther medicine immediately because i dont want her to die .
So get patient, immediately we cash the money, i assured 100% that your sisther must be cured by me, so i am world hero.

Dr fr3d w177y

.

Even after 3v@ sexually harassed him the best he could come up with is "world hero"

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:05 pm

@ Larson : don't worry, this guy has a real crazy 'merican bastard on his *ss now Razz

I have to say, he's fast. 3 mails within the hour, i'd like to see some other lads do that Wink

Will see how long he sticks, he's still on script, but at least i can vent some anger on him if he snaps.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:09 pm

Ethian: Did you get him to say "i am world hero" too? Laughing

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:15 pm

Not yet, not yet... Best i got so far is " if you dont want to be cured, than get it in mind that you must die with the HIV." or "So now you have to gives thanks to God, that you we not die again for the HIV disease anymore." He's smoking some of his own stuff i think... Oh, and he now thinks 3K is enough... instead of the 27K he asked first... Sure a nice rebate.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:34 pm

Ethian: I'm trying to get 3v@ to sexually harass him into getting his picture.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:09 pm

Sounds like a plan Smile

Perhaps you can even get him to undress (if you can stand the thought). To me he's just pretty short and insisting on WU or Moneygram, which i plainly refused. Probably will twig soon, but then at least i can shout. My char is 100% straight and 'merican, so no pics so far (or wait... i can try, to prove he's just him). I'm just fishing for 4l4nizable accounts Smile

(and ofcourse trying to tell him he's stupid, but that's between teh lines)

[edit] Okay, this one is hopeless... His best option after i told him WU/MG is out of the question : " If you can't send the money through western union or money gram,you can come over to my country and you will be cured here.
Dr Fred Willy."
Like he wants me to fly my AIDS-crippled body over to Paramaribo, and slap him around... He'll just have to give me what i want, and we're done Smile

By the way, he must be quite desperate for cash, as i'm not exactly helpful to him, and he still comes back. 100% lazy, 100% stupid and 100% greedy. Yep, that's a lad.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 1043

Now I'm not one to wish AIDS on someone, but the irony would be delicious.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:44 pm

OK, this guy is completely insane. Here's the stuff so far :

Firing off, just a standard texty.

Quote:

Hey mister, ye say ye curin Aids? Sounds nice, but what are ye takin for it?

Quote:

Good day,
Well i am a harbal doctor located in south america in suriname, so i newly discover the medecine of the HIV cured disease, so we have cured almost 400 peolpe around the world with HIV, so if you are interested to be cured from the HIV, then we will send our medicine to you, and immediately you start taking the medecin, then it we take two month for the disease of HIV to be cure, then after that, go to the HIV test again, then result must be certainly nagative.
So send us this information details
NAME;
COUNTRY:
PHONE NUMBER:
ADDRESS:
Regards,
Dr fr3d willy.
00597 8373 504

Quote:

Ye say 2 months? And how long till the rest of teh crap is cured? Aint
got no whitey bloodcell in me body right now, ye know if they grow
back, or should i push me doc for a bunch of em? Anyway, better than
zip and the truckload of pills i'm eatin everyday now.

Name : Baiter,
Country : Louisiana, the States, me phone has been cut last week,
trouble with the company. Once it's up again, i'll give ye a nod.
Address : 27 Anderson rd,
46578 Cheneyville, LA

Quote:

Hello,
So we received your email, so the cost of the HIV medicine we cost you the sum of $21,000, but you have to pay the sum of $6,000 first, then immediately you are cured and confirmed from medical doctor that you are nagative in HIV, then you can pay us the balance.
As i stated in my previous mail, immediately you start taking my medicine for the HIV, it we take two months for you to be cured, so i 100% assured that you must be cured .
So now you have to gives thanks to God, that you we not die again for the HIV disease anymore.
So if you agree on this, then write us back for us to give you information on how you can send the money through western union and also we can start preparing your harbal medicine of the HIV to deliver to you immediately.
Dr fr3d willy.

Quote:

So ye're thinkin i can cough up 6 grand just for a buncha herbs? Might
as well keep eatin those damned pills, they cost me an arm and a leg,
but at least they work. Me doc would call me crazy, but heck.
Oh, you already had me info, check the last mail if ye can't believe
me, it's in there somewhere. W3stern Union sucks balls, that place is
rotten with Nigerian scammers these days, won't trust any cent to em,
no matter what. Dont ye have a normal banky, like the rest of the
friggin world?

Quote:

Hello,
Well i am here to tell you that this south america, if you are ready for the cured of you HIV, then we can accept the sum of $3,000 to deliver the medicine to you, but if you dont want to be cured, than get it in mind that you must die with the HIV.

Dr fred willy.

Quote:

I'll die anyway, no doubt about that... HIV will get me in a couple o
months if i quit takin me drugs, but as is now, i can live on like a
plant for a year of 5. Whaddaya mean with this south america? This is
the states i'm in, they too have HIV, savvy?

3K? Looks like we're talkin, but i still can't just pop me wallet out,
or i can, but it's empty. Bastard capitalists aint givin freebees to
disabled workers, ye know. Can try to send you 500 now, 500 next
month, and then we can see again. Somehow i need food as well, or i'm
6 feet under long before those 2 months gone. Oh, gimme a paypal or
states bank, then i know you aint cheatin on me.

Quote:

Hello again,
See since you have met me, then i assured you that you dont have to be worried, by special grace of God, you must be heal certainly and secondly for you to be heal, you must have faith and believed in God, that is my motor.
Well i can see that you condition is crtitical now, and i must cured you.
So all you need to do now is to send the $500 immediately for us to deliver the medicine to you, and as you stated that you we be paying us $500, is fine but i am doing this just because of God.
So in the case for you to send the money through bank, is not advisable because before the money reflect here, it we take like 2 weeks before the bank can remit it to us.
So you have to send the money through western union with this information details here..
RECEIVER NAME: D3RREK ADAMS
COUNTRY: SUR1NAME
ADDRESS; # 5 BARRON STR44T, PARAMAR1BO SURINAME.
CONTINANT: SOUTH AMERICA
So we wait your reply so that we can start preparing your medicine for delievry.
Dr fr3d willy

Time to nudge him to something else...

Quote:

Well, you still stuck with that Western Union thingy aren't ye? Not
buyin it though, i dont wanna loose me hard earned dollars cause some
nutjack runs off with em. That Western Uni is run by a buncha crooks,
i tell ya. Paramaribo isn't that friggin far, money will be there
within a week if i can just wire it. I can wait that long, sure you
can as well... Ye can go pluck yer weeds, and if you're back, money is
there if you send a good bank account. Sure must be a fast bank there.
Oh btw, money here doesn't reflect anythin, except me face if i look
into a coin.

Quote:

Hello Again,
See i am just trying to help you our for this disease, so since you dont trust western union, so go now and use money gram immediately to send the money, then one of our medicine delivery agent we be travelling to north america by tomorrow, then you have to send the money through western union or money gram , then immediately you wired the money, then send us your address so that when our agent get to north america, it can easily for him to locate you for the delievry of the medicine.
So that is the only option for us to cured you, so you have to do this now or you forget about it.

Dr fred willy.

Quote:

Yea wow, Mon3ygram. Aint that teh same company? Why do you so really
want to be untracable? Think i'm up to no good? I'm doing my best not
ter cheat on ye, making sure we can check this whole money-throwin,
and you keep wanting me ter throw me safety away... Is this not legal
or somethin? Bein sneaky and selling me duds for pills? Afraid i'm
coming down there? If that agent of yours is personally comin to drop
off the pills, he might as well take the cash with him. Ye know where
i live, told ye before,
Name : Baiter,
Country : Louisiana, the States, me phone has been cut last week,
trouble with the company. Once it's up again, i'll give ye a nod.
Address : 27 Anderson rd,
46578 Cheneyville, LA
whoppa. Now be a good boy and write it down, will ye?

Quote:

Hello,
My dear you dont need to be worried , okay send the money now in western union with this information details once again,
RECEIVER NAME: D3RREK ADAMS,
COUNTRY: SURINAME:
So as i stated in my previous email, you dont need to be worried, immediately you made the payment, just call me on phone to give me the MTCN number or you send it to me on my mail, so if we can received the money right now, then certainly our delivery agent we deliver your medicine to you by tomorrow,
And i assured, sine you have met me, then give thanks to God that you are heale now.

Dr fred willy

Well, he is a bit slow on the uptake. Time to tell him.

Quote:

HEY, ARE YOU RETARDED? I SAID NO WESTERN UNION! Come one. ever read
mail or so? Get awake mate...

Quote:

Hello,
We are not forcing you to get the cure from us,if you have other source,you can go to them.we have so many persons here and others who need the medicine just as you do and they obey what ever we ask them to do.the only method we can use to receive this payment is through western union or moneygram.HIV/AIDS patients from different countries sent money through western union and we receive it without any problem.you are the one who have HIV not me,you are the one who need the cure not me and if anyone should die or have problems is you not me.am trying to help you here and you are argueing with me.do you think we are here to play or what.if you are not ready to send the money through western union or moneygram,then goodbye and go with your HIV.
DR FR3D WILLY.

Quote:

Look mister willy, if you can't do normal business without your
western union or moneyscam, it's easy. Stick it up yours, i;m not
throwing my money away just because you want me to. If you want a
serious deal, it's fine, but that is going to happen with a normal
bank account, and with the normal transfer. Anything fishy, and i
quit. Got me point ? Great.

Quote:

If you can't send the money through western union or money gram,you can come over to my country and you will be cured here.
Dr Fr3d Willy.

Quote:

So you just say fly me to Paramaribo, and get meds there? Ticket alone
is going to cost me a grand...
" one of our medicine delivery agent we be travelling to north
america by tomorrow" Why don't you send the boy here, so i can pay
cash, he gives me the stuff, and we're there? Sounds like the best
plan to me, as i'm in no condition to fly. Once i'm improved a bit, i
gladly come and thank you in person, but as i am now, i have trouble
getting out of me bed, so gettin to New Orleans airport (which is
still half-flooded n crappy) is out of the question.

Quote:

Hello,
So i am so much sorry for your condition now, so i assure you, then you we not die and i must cured you, so the $500 i requested from you is just for ticket for my delivery agent and some other expenses, so you dont need to be worried, all you need to do now is to send this money through western union, and send me the MTCN NUMBER, immeidtaly.
With God all things are possible,
So have faith.
Dr fr3d willy
00597 8373 504

Ok, now you got it. Slap. Happy now?

Quote:

Yea God does best he can, but he surely never managed to tell you that
there is more than Western Union... really... someone reset your
brain, it's stuck in a loop.

Quote:

Hello
Well if you dont want to send the money through western union, then you forget about it.

Quote:

Then i hereby declare you a cheap scammer, that refuses to do normal
business... Go and try to cheat on someone else if you can't get your
brains (you have any?) together, cause you'll need em. Perhaps you
come back whining when you need the money. F*cker

Quote:

Hello,
Okay since you dont want to send the money through western union, so use the money to buy laptop and send it to me with DHL, with this address #51 mercurous straat, paramaribo, suriname.
So definetly i we received it by friday, then immediately i received it, then i we deliver the medicine to you.

See? Always another way Smile

(although it's not my way)

Quote:

Huh? I can't follow you on this one. You want me to buy you a laptop?
You do have a computer right, you wouldn't be typing this to me, so
why a laptop? And next, what thingy do you want? 500 bucks aint
getting you much here these days, perhaps one of those funky
one-laptop-per-lamer thingies for 300 bucks here, but you can pick em
up cheaper in Africa. For anything decent, you'd have to wait till
next month, when i get my money, so i can put the $1000 at once. You
in Suriname certainly have weird ways of sending cash...

Quote:

Hello,
the way for us to received the cash from you is only western union or money gram, so i dont know if you thinks that we are palying here, i have apatent i newly cured from canada, if you want i can give you her contact information to verify.
So you must be cure , and you we not die, if you can able to send this money, surely you we received your medicine by tomorrow.. Here is south america, not africa.
right

Quote:

Well, i dont really get what you writin, but i understand of it that
you have a patent in Canada? If you can send me details, thatd be
nice, i can do a checkup on em, and see.
I know you're in south America, Surinam is let's say 3.000 miles south
o this place, that must be pretty close. Still, if you only get
western union or that moneygram of em, i think it's one hell of a
cheapy country. Well, let me know what you want with that laptop.

Quote:

Hello,
you can contact my canada patient with this mail, [email protected].
I cured him 2 wekks ago, so if you are ready to send this money, then i we cure you.

Quote:

Well, i sent him a mail, will see what he says bout it... Still, tell
me what laptop ye want, and i might fix a deal here...

Quote:

Hello,
For the issue of the laptop, i we sell it here and get the money, since you are afriad to send the money through western union.
So all depend on you, either you send the money through western union or you send the laptop.

Quote:

Weird way, weird way. Ye must be outta your mind, cause if you resell
a thingy like that second-handed, it's worth a lot less than when i
buy it. Ye can't expect me to cover that part, so then you end up with
only 300 buckies. Not what i had in mind actually. I mean, get a grip
on things. Western Union sucks balls, Moneygram the same. I really
wanna get this done, but this just keeps going weirder and weirder.
Think it over, ye might think up somethin smart.

And that's where we ended....

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:49 am

Koko.Dk wrote:

So the bastard denies that he is from Africa eh? And he's right! His ip points to Pararimbo, Suriname. 3v4 sure feels stupid now, perhaps more mind f@cking is needed.

Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed when I did an IP trace. His phone number is Surinamese (?) too. Weird, huh?

Newdonym wrote:

Now I'm not one to wish AIDS on someone, but the irony would be delicious.

Amen.

Hellish Taskmaster Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 537

Larson wrote:

I hope you guys are giving him hell. Smile

Oh yeah. He's answered 1400 questions on secureptv, and I've told him that it has scammed me. I now work with a charity that wants him to fill out 9 forms.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

Quote:

you can contact my canada patient with this mail, [email protected].

I'm dying to hear about the miracle cure! There was nothing in the news about it here. Rolling Eyes

I wonder if he can do anything for one of my tragic widow ladies, who has cancer of the "pelvics"?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:17 am

Quote:

Hello,
Are you playing on us or what?we do not know who m4th3w b4ll0 is.we checked with the western union and this was their message.
Transfer Status

Error W0131 We do not have an order with the provided information. Please verify your information and click Check Status.
MTCN : 8078558419

I beleive you know what this is.if reallt you sent the money,go over to your western union and tell them to inform you were the money was picked up,the bank,country.I hope you are not playing on us because we only need serious people here.or do you want your sister to die? go over to the western union and get back to us.
Dr Fr3d W177y.

Well, it looks like the dolla chop fell flat on it's face. Damn. Any advice on how to reply back? Or is he going to drop me now?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:09 am

As long as you mail him back he won't drop you clearly Razz

This lad is not incredibly stupid, and he just plays it easy : you want to die? No? Then go WU. Well, he can get it if he wants it. The 'Canadian' has a terrible grip of English, it's almost like he's from Parabarimo as well... He's not that responsive though, i think our lad has more work to do... I hope that means he's loaded with baiters.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:56 am

Before I buy his medicine I want to know some things about it!

Quote:

Can you give me information on how the medicine is taken?
Is it taken on a daily basis?
Should it be taken before or after meals?
How many times?
Are there side effects?
Does the medicine contains extrahibitulosus (my friend is allergic to this)?
May alcohol be consumed while taking the medicine?
May tobacco be consumed while taking the medicine?
is there any substance present that may cause introdoctrinitis of the kidney?

His reply:

Quote:

Hello,
I received your mail,here are the answers to your questions.

1, The medicine is taken on a daily basis.

2, The medicine should be taken after meals.

3, The medicine is taken twice a day (morning and evening).

4, There is no side effect.the medicine will be sent to you along with instructions on how to use it.

5, The medicine is well treated and examined and it has prove satisfactory and has also be used to cure many HIV people.

6, No alcohol should be taken for 2 months while taking the medicine because it takes 2 months for the medicine to totally remove the HIV from your body.

7, No tobacco should be taken also while taking the medicine.

8, No substance of such.the medicine is to cure and not to harm.

I hope you are satisfied with this,if you have more questions,do not hesitate to ask.await your reply.
Dr Fr3d W1lly.

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