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hhv01
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 99
Location: Roman Empire
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:55 am |
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I did some sort of agent provocateur and placed an ad in Craigslist. If you like to have a look at it, just click this:
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/sys/1025763545.html
A lad mailed me and asked for my email address for Paypal payment.
I'm not very familiar with Paypal. To the best of my knowledge, it's being used by Ebay members for transfers within the Ebay community.
Does anybody here know how a Paypal fraud would work?
Regards,
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Craig007
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3123
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:58 am |
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Paypal isn't just for Ebay, it can be used for a wide range of payment "modalities". I believe the Eater takes Paypal payments for premium membership (Which I really must upgrade to again!) |
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grooble
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
Posts: 127
Location: drifting in the cloud
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:25 pm |
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I use PP a fair bit in RL outside of EBay. Basically you can send a payment to any email address.
The recipient can register and get money out to a card or account for a fee.
The use of paypal doesn't necessarily mean a scam, just a neat way of getting payments if you don't want to go through the expensive options of Bureau Service (Worldpay et al) or opening a Merchant Account.
That's not to say there isn't overpayment or fake paypal messages potential...
Edit: Just had a chance to look at the listing. Very good, I almost bought it myself |
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manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 4816
Location: Connecting my chair and keyboard
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:59 pm |
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With PayPal you pay for the convenience, but it means you can be paid by credit card etc. It doesn't however mean that the card doing the payment isn't stolen, the PayPal account stolen, etc which will be clawed back from you in such a case. PayPal is *not* a bank, even though they like to act like one, so they're outside of banking jurisdiction. This means they make their own rules, so should not be a serious option for high value transfers. If the person is genuine, suggest a different transfer method (eg caxtonfx.com for large amounts, or WU for smaller ones) and see what they say. |
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Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:19 pm |
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Someone told me that Paypal is a useful tool for when you want your eater USERNAME to turn Orange ...how does that work ? ...is it some kind of scam ? |
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:46 pm |
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Oh, I'm still not sure of that, spot! Just click on the Orange link in my siggy, and find out! I not only turned Orange, but I'm so damn cool right now, I can hardly stand myself! |
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mrsbean
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Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:21 pm |
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Some lads will also just spoof a "payment sent" email from Paypal in an effort to get you to send the item. Some of these spoofs are pretty darned convincing if you don't actually log directly into Paypal or look at the headers too closely. |
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hhv01
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 99
Location: Roman Empire
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:58 pm |
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Yep.
mrsbean wrote: |
Some lads will also just spoof a "payment sent" email from Paypal in an effort to get you to send the item. Some of these spoofs are pretty darned convincing if you don't actually log directly into Paypal or look at the headers too closely. |
Well, this guy wasn't really convincing. His English grammar is worse than mine. Gulp.
Any rate, Paypal seems to be a very alert company. Have a look:
''Paypal'' wrote: |
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42])
by store77m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:38 -0500
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
X-Spam-charsets: plain='Windows-1252', html='Windows-1252'
X-Resolved-to: xxx
X-Delivered-to: xxx
X-Mail-from: [email protected]
Received: from mx1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.200])
by compute2.internal (LMTPProxy); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:38 -0500
Received: from snt0-omc1-s12.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s12.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.23])
by mx1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8E0286F03
for <xxx>; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:37 -0500 (EST)
Received: from SNT101-W63 ([65.55.90.9]) by snt0-omc1-s12.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:28:36 -0800
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_54716044-e44d-45ed-ac2d-0734ae39cdcb_"
X-Originating-IP: [216.226.70.110]
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sender: <[email protected]>
To: <xxx>
Subject: *****NOTIFICATION OF INSTANT PAYMENT RECEIVED FROM xxx *****
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:36 -0500
Importance: Normal
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2009 15:28:36.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[92854150:01C98D26]
Dear xxx,
You have an Instant Payment of £4.600.00 GBP from xxx ([email protected])
Payment Details
Purchased From: xxx
Transaction ID : 3W492637HE3368307
Item Number Item Title Quantity Price Subtotal
YI902KD57
Sinclair ZX81, good condition, incl. accessories
1 £4.500.00
GBP
£4.500.00
GBP
Shipping & Handling via postalService to M18 8SBXX :
(includes any seller handling fees)
£100.00 GBP
Shipping Insurance (not offered): ----
Total: £4.600.00
GBP
Delivery Information
Address : xxx
xxx
xxx
xxx
Manchester.
United Kingdom
Address Status: Confirmed
Important Note: This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED"but will not be credited into your account until the shipment tracking number is sent to us for verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. The status of the payment is currently pending, we have noticed most sellers do not ship out the exact items as they have listed on facebook and we are keen on securing the facebook community. You will be required to ship out the item and email us its shipment details so as to enable us verify the content. Once we are through with the verification, your account will be credited immediately. Contact the PayPal representative who handles this transaction with the shipment tracking number via ([email protected]) immediately so we can credit your account as soon as shipment is confirmed.
Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited. Send reference number to us through this email: [email protected] and our customer service will attend to you. As soon as you send us the shipment's tracking number for security purposes and the safety of the buyer and the seller,the money will be credited to your account immediately.
* *PLEASE NOTE**
Once item has been shipped and the tracking number sent to us,
You will receive a "CONFIRMATION EMAIL" from PayPal® Team informing you that the Fund has been credited
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Got to invent a proof of shipment now....
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manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
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Location: Connecting my chair and keyboard
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:28 am |
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�4,600 for a ZX81? I loved mine until my Mrs made me throw it out, I should have flogged it to your lad |
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hhv01
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 99
Location: Roman Empire
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:17 am |
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manbiteslion wrote: |
�4,600 for a ZX81? I loved mine until my Mrs made me throw it out, I should have flogged it to your lad |
Now that's a pity!
But perhaps you keep a forgotten Commodore C16 or a VC-20 left in the cellar or the attic? Those sell at 6 grand plus 2,000 more for the datasette if you still keep it.
Any rate, the lad quoted me a delivery address in Manchester which I blanked out in the "Paypal notification". If here's somebody from Manchester or somebody who knows M., I'd be happy to PM him the address.
At your service,
Riffraff. |
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BobCat
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:48 pm |
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This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED"but will not be credited into your account until the shipment tracking number is sent to us for verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. |
This is proof it is a scam, Paypal never does this. They only send and receive payments, they do not act as escrow. |
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hhv01
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 99
Location: Roman Empire
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:05 pm |
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BobCat wrote: |
This is proof it is a scam, Paypal never does this. They only send and receive payments, they do not act as escrow. |
....and they probably have an email address of their own. On the other hand, quite a lot of bank directors, barristers and lawyers employ Yahoo for their business email. So maybe Paypal is happy with Hotmail?
Slightly amused,
Riffraff. |
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hhv01
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 99
Location: Roman Empire
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Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:09 pm |
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Sigh...
My business with brave Lawrence Anderson led to nothing. He even accused me of scamming him
History: I sent him my Sinclair ZX81 at a bargain £4,600 to Manchester. Parcel was sent back since nobody was at home to receive it. I sent it again, taking some precaution (there's so much robbery on freight, and fraudulence as well, y'know...)
me wrote: |
...I have now re-despatched the parcel.
To increase safety, it's not being sent to the address you quoted but to
a freight agency where you can collect it.
For collection, you need the tracking number and a password...
...To keep it sure, I would like to give you the address and the
password/track.number by phone. Please let me have your phone number... |
It took some 45 minutes, then
My customer, young Lawrence wrote: |
ok,i m not buying again,you want to scam me?
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I'm depressed. And I'm ashamed to have made so much fuzz with Paypal.
Really kotowing,
Riffraff. |
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