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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

OK, I am new so be gentle Very Happy

Here is a job offer on Madison Craigslist
http://madison.craigslist.org/lab/1022551482.html

Quote:

Maintenance Technician (Madison)
Reply to: [email protected] [?]
Date: 2009-02-05, 5:14PM CST

Seeking a full-time candidate for Maintenance Technician position.
Duties will include:
· apartment turnovers
· grounds upkeep
· minor repairs
Requirements
· Candidate must be flexible, courteous, and possess good customer service skills.
· This hands-on position requires working knowledge in the areas of carpentry, minor plumbing and electrical, and prioritizing work orders.
· Candidates must have a valid driver license, reliable transportation and available for on-call. Property maintenance experience is preferred but not required.
Qualified candidates apply by sending resume’ to this ad. *Hiring dependent on successful drug and background screenings.

* Location: Madison
* Compensation: $10 - $15/hr
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

PostingID: 1022551482

Found it around midnight, looked OK, so responded with cover letter and attached resume.

Got this response next morning:

Quote:

Hello,

I received your information and would like to speak with you further
regarding this position. I would like to arrange a phone interview as soon
as possible. Before I can do that I will need you to complete our
formal application. Fill it out below and get it back to me ASAP.

I do need to get this position filled right away, so the sooner
you get the application back the better. Please pay close attention
to the "background section" of the application. I do need this
completed 100%, including credit scores. If all looks good on the
application and it is filled out correctly, would you be able to start
near the end of next week? Please let me know. I hope you have a
great day, and I look forward to talking to you soon.

Please complete the form listed below and return to
[email protected] with the job title in the subject line.
Applications submitted without the job title in the subject line of
email will be rejected.

Edward Jackson
Staffing Director
eStaffing Pro
www.eStaffingPro.com
[email protected]

Application for Employment

Name:

Address:

City:

State / Zip:

Date:

Phone No.:

Email:

Position Applying for:

Date you can Start:

Salary Desired:

Are you Employed now?

If so, may we inquire of your present employer?

Education History

High School:

How many years attended? Graduate?

College:

How many years attended? Graduate?

Other Schooling:

How many years attended? Graduate?

Military Service?

Years and rank:

Special Work Experience or Extra Training/Skills:

Employment History
(List last 4 employers starting with the most recent first)

Name and City of Employer / Salary / Position

1.

2.

3.

4.

Reference
(Give the names of three people not related to you, who we may contact.)

Name / City / Phone Number / Relationship

1.

2.

3.

Background
(You must complete this section 100%, do not leave anything blank. If
anything is left blank your application will not be processed.)

1.Do you have a criminal record?

If yes, explain:

2.Have you ever been fired by an employer?

If yes, explain:

3.Have you ever stolen from a previous employer?

If yes, explain:

4. Credit Rating: due to the financial responsibility associated with
this position you must include your current credit scores from one or
all of the 3 major credit reporting bureaus in the box below.

**Important** If you do not know you credit scores, you can obtain
them online from a free resource located at www.YourCreditAid.com.

TransUnion : ________________
Experian : __________________
Equifax : ___________________

Interview Questions: (Please answer the questions below.)

1. Tell us about yourself.

2. Are you a team player?

3.What kind of salary do you need?

4.How long would you expect to work for us if hired?

5.What is your greatest strength?

Authorization
"I certify that the facts contained in this application are true and
complete to the best of my knowledge and I understand that, if
employed, falsified statements on this application shall be grounds
for dismissal."

Signature (Type or Sign):

Date:

I actually started filling it but something ticked me off... that credit score website doesn't look right... and I forgot to check the employer/hiring agency, so lets do it.

http://whois.domaintools.com/estaffingpro.com
... is 2 weeks old and owned by "Randall Smith" who owns another 161 other domains, California address.

now, the credit score he links to:
http://whois.domaintools.com/yourcreditaid.com
... is 3 months old, owned by "Bill Smith" who owns another 596 other domains, California based too.

Seriously, WTF! Possibly he would get more info in another 2-3 emails from some sucker. Anyone wants to help me mess with him or take it over?

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

Good catch, and good research!

Quote:

**Important** If you do not know you credit scores, you can obtain
them online from a free resource located at www.YourCreditAid.com.

It leads to a phishing site that will ask for all the information needed to steal your identity. Sadly many people will fall for it.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:23 am

I like this on the 'Privacy Policy' page Very Happy

Quote:

How You Can Access Or Correct Your Information
You can access all your personally identifiable information that we collect online and maintain by [description of the company access procedure]. We use this procedure to better safeguard your information.

Oh whoops - I think he was intended to put what it is - not copy the wording in brackets. Laughing

Even worse - the wording doesn't apply to what the site appears to be doing - which to be honest, is virtually nothing apart from a link to Wikipedia.

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

I'll shoot [email protected] an email and see what is up with the site. There seems to be some problems with it and I need my credit score NOW, so I can get my job in Madison.

@oompaloompa, Welcome to Eater, we need more cheese heads here. Very Happy

Quote:

I am applying for a job and I need my credit score. The job application suggested your service, but the website does not seem to be functioning, can you help me? I am unemployed and I really need this job. I only have 6 months of living expenses in my savings account, so I need the information fast so I can apply for the job. I know I have good credit, and I want to get my score before I start missing payments.

Joe

--
Joseph XXXXXX
[email protected]

Lets see how low these bastards can get.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Thanks for warm welcome!

What would you do besides messing with smartass like that? I just started to browse through some stories on this forum, but does it ever end up with baiter/scammer in deeper trouble or behind bars?

Baiting Guru Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 12237

oompaloompa wrote:

but does it ever end up with baiter/scammer in deeper trouble or behind bars?

Baiters, no. Scammers, rarely.

We waste their time so they have less time for victims. We also provide a resource for potential victims. Sometimes they Google the scammer's name or email address and end up here.

We also have a sister site that advises on potential scams, with real life stories of real life victims. http://www.scamwarners.com/

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Gotcha

Note to myself (and everyone else, too):

Never reply to anonymous Craigslist job offer, worst case try to limit amount of personal info you disclose.

I always send a resume in pdf file. Looks like this baiter was too lazy to type it in Wink

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

Looks like the "Privacy Policy" was lifted from an online merchandise site.
I didn't know gift cards for credit ratings were available! Laughing

Quote:

We offer gift-cards by which you can personalize a product you order for another person.
Information you provide to us to create a gift-card is only used for that purpose, and it is only
disclosed to the person receiving the gift.

And do 12 year olds even have credit ratings?

Quote:

For that reason, we never
collect or maintain information at our website from those we actually know are under 13, and
no part of our website is structured to attract anyone under 13.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:50 pm

I regulary place adverts on Craigslist for various services and usually get scammers replying to me.

Smile

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:44 pm

If they're US based you stand a chance of making this all blow up into a big shitty mess, so do contact your local fraud/law enforcers with a folder of printed evidence as a dossier to get them started and interested.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:25 am

What's the deal with the jobamatic site that's linked tot he "careers" at estaffingpro? There are real companies with real jobs listed there. I have a buddy that works for one of those companies and the site links directly with the real site..

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Imus_Naile wrote:

What's the deal with the jobamatic site that's linked tot he "careers" at estaffingpro? There are real companies with real jobs listed there. I have a buddy that works for one of those companies and the site links directly with the real site..

I think estaffingpro uses RSS feed to get some jobs listed from other sources, just to look more legit.

Master Baiter Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 209

Wow, thats pretty low. Lots of people are going to fall for this one.

Anyway, here's a thought. Reply back (if you're going to mess with them) with random credit score numbers (use something low so you look desperate).

When he sees he hasn't scammed you by getting all your ID theft info from his other website, ask how he knows that?

Then, try to find out if the guy has an OP in America or is doing this all from overseas.

BTW, this is my first post here, I just joined.

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