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high-seas-piracy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 77
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:29 pm |
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I got an email the other day from a Rich@rd Vale saying that he represents the Orchard Vale Trust, based in the UK.
It started out as a check-cashing scam and after I didn't bite he turned it into a 419. The full bait will come as soon as I start to get some real action.
His email traced back to Steisel, Luxembourg.
My question is this: I looked up the Orchard Vale Trust on Google and the NPO itself looks pretty legit. They seem to provide care for learning-disabled kids in the UK (acording to the web site). "Rich@rd Vale" sent his email asking for funds to help cure heart disease.
I'm wondering if this org is legit. As I said, the website mentions nothing about what my scammer is looking for money for.
If it's real I want to send the guys an email, let them know they are being used as part of a scam to make the lad take their URL out of his emails.
If they're not, I want to take down the website.
Anybody got any insight here? |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:33 pm |
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Why not drop the link here and I'll show you how you can check it?
That's the first step in killing a site, if....  |
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sir scam alot
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 5076
Location: Louisiana
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:35 pm |
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My guess he's piggybacking off their site. Basically, using a legit site to make money that would have gone to a good cause. |
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thud419
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 3193
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:03 pm |
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The best way for a bona-fide website to cope with that is to put a warning on their home page. There's no point in them contacting him; he'll laugh at them. Likewise closing down his email account will just have him opening another that you don't know about. |
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high-seas-piracy
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Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:03 pm |
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I don't want his address closed down (he's my current project  ), and he isn't running his email through them so thats not a problem.
The link posted in his email is www.orchardvaletrust.org.uk. |
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Cathartic Kate
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Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 1542
Location: Spooner Hall
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:08 pm |
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It shows a warning, though only on donation page.
PLEASE NOTE: We do not conduct fundraising appeals through our website or by email. Any contact received in this way is fraudulent.
edit - to add looks perfectly legit, but perhaps contact a mod. |
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sir scam alot
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 5076
Location: Louisiana
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:08 pm |
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Sounds like a case of piggybacking to me but i am on my cellphone at work so i will let one of the site experts look at it. |
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= Rev. JB Johnson. Lome to Parakou "i thought it will just be a day jouney. unknowingly to me that it will last up to one week."
2 = Harrison: Owerri, Nigeria to Cotonou, Benin and Accra, Ghana "i know ive been a sucker for twat "
= (Group safari) Oy3nka Ch1dinma: Lagos to Cotonou: "Thank you so much for the embrassment."
= Group safari - Dan Nkwerre: Port Harcourt to Abeche, Chad
2 = Barr. Mustapha Marlick: Lome, Togo to Abuja Nigeria and Accra, Ghana.
x15 (some survived) x280
<b>Have you kicked your lad today?<b>
Over $1 million USD in fake checks/money orders confiscated |
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high-seas-piracy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 77
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:11 pm |
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I guess my real question is this:
Do you think I am safe using the "Contact Us" form on the website to send an alert about the scammer, or will that scare off my lad? |
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sir scam alot
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 5076
Location: Louisiana
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:25 pm |
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Let a site expert look at the site first and see what they have to say. |
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= Rev. JB Johnson. Lome to Parakou "i thought it will just be a day jouney. unknowingly to me that it will last up to one week."
2 = Harrison: Owerri, Nigeria to Cotonou, Benin and Accra, Ghana "i know ive been a sucker for twat "
= (Group safari) Oy3nka Ch1dinma: Lagos to Cotonou: "Thank you so much for the embrassment."
= Group safari - Dan Nkwerre: Port Harcourt to Abeche, Chad
2 = Barr. Mustapha Marlick: Lome, Togo to Abuja Nigeria and Accra, Ghana.
x15 (some survived) x280
<b>Have you kicked your lad today?<b>
Over $1 million USD in fake checks/money orders confiscated |
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Dutch
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 4204
Location: Dislocated
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:33 pm |
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This domain seems legit. Registered 9 years ago, the WHOIS information checks out with the address on the website. Indeed the lad is piggybacking on a real organisation.
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canonical name orchardvaletrust.org.uk.
aliases
addresses 213.171.219.247
Domain Whois record
Queried whois.nic.uk with "orchardvaletrust.org.uk"...
Domain name:
orchardvaletrust.org.uk
Registrant:
Orchard Vale Trust
Registrant type:
UK Registered Charity, (Charity number: 326940)
Registrant's address:
Orchard Vale Trust
East Court
Doctor's Hill
Wookey
Wells
Somerset
BA5 1AR
GB
Registrar:
Fasthosts Internet Ltd [Tag = FASTHOSTS]
URL: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 16-Apr-2000
Renewal date: 16-Apr-2010
Last updated: 18-Mar-2008
Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.
Name servers:
ns1.livedns.co.uk
ns2.livedns.co.uk
WHOIS lookup made at 20:30:54 02-Feb-2009
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DonVito
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 19 Sep 2008
Posts: 93
Location: localhost@sea
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:33 pm |
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high-seas-piracy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 77
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:56 pm |
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KK, thanks guys. Keep an eye out for the scam posting soon. This one looks like a good trophy machine.
Edit: Warning sent via the website's Contact form.
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Just a heads up. I am a member of 419eater.com, a website devoted to taking down email scammers.
Recently I have been receiving emails from a man calling himself l2ich@rd V@le and claiming to be associated with your organization. He is trying to solicit donations.
In the email he includes a link to your website, adding credibility to his mock-up story. The link goes directly to your homepage, and someone unfamiliar with this type of scam could easily fall for the false connection. Many would not make it to your donation page and read the warning there.
I urge you to copy the warning about email solicitations onto your homepage (the page with the Google search function) as well. I am dealing with the scammer now and hopefully I will be able to shut him down temporarily, but others may be using the same trick he is.
Again, please consider adding a warning message to your home page.
Regards, |
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harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 1489
Location: Not Happy
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:29 pm |
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When he asks for money it will be so easy to send it to the real organisation. Will piss him off no end.  |
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sir scam alot
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Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 5076
Location: Louisiana
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:51 pm |
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Sending the money to the real charity will really put him over the edge. If you need help torturing him, let me know. You know how I hate charity scammers. |
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= Rev. JB Johnson. Lome to Parakou "i thought it will just be a day jouney. unknowingly to me that it will last up to one week."
2 = Harrison: Owerri, Nigeria to Cotonou, Benin and Accra, Ghana "i know ive been a sucker for twat "
= (Group safari) Oy3nka Ch1dinma: Lagos to Cotonou: "Thank you so much for the embrassment."
= Group safari - Dan Nkwerre: Port Harcourt to Abeche, Chad
2 = Barr. Mustapha Marlick: Lome, Togo to Abuja Nigeria and Accra, Ghana.
x15 (some survived) x280
<b>Have you kicked your lad today?<b>
Over $1 million USD in fake checks/money orders confiscated |
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high-seas-piracy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 77
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:24 pm |
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@SSA - Will do. I think this one will reach a point where I'll need to call on you for guidance. Right now I'm just in the prelim stages. Who knows? May even turn into a massbait if the lad is real icky. |
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manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 4816
Location: Connecting my chair and keyboard
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:22 pm |
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piggybacking charities is pure shitty  Give him hell!
I think your email to the real charity was a good one, maybe next time mention scamwarners too - and suggest they can put a link to scamwarners.com in their warning if they like (scamwarners is like our unevil alter ego), just in case anyone falls for the scammer.
Is that Joey in your avatar? JD, I retrospectively salute you! |
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