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Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

Hello all, as many of you know I am still really new here, but I figured that before getting into baiting I would start my own "church" to fall back on for credentials. I got an account and domain (private one too, so no WHOIS checks on me Very Happy

).

I'm really close to it being complete (havent added the forum yet, and need to clean up some gfx and formating) so I figured I would let you all get a look at it.

Its at www.church0fh0ly0ak.info (just replace the 0's with o's).

Any ideas on how to make it look better/more legit are welcome. Also, once I set up a forum, I would love for some of you guys to stop on by, set up a forum account, and role play as members of a highly esteemed church that worships the wood goddess. Very Happy

Also, once I set up the forum and if there is demand, I will allow interested eaters to join the forum as "elders", so that you could use this church for your own baits (there would be a sub forum only for "elders" to help coordinate the "church's" "doctrine".)

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 241

hard to navigate once I click on a link. Also the disclaimer in the bottom look pretty noobish.

but hey, sign me up on the forum. i will be a prophet with 7 wives, living in a compound in Utah. I am sure the lad can live in one of my many houses with my virgin daughters.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

ramsey wrote:

hard to navigate once I click on a link. Also the disclaimer in the bottom look pretty noobish.

but hey, sign me up on the forum. i will be a prophet with 7 wives, living in a compound in Utah. I am sure the lad can live in one of my many houses with my virgin daughters.

Yeah, beyond the primary page, the only current way to get back is to click "home" at the bottom of the page. The noobish disclaimer I hope to be something that us eaters could laugh at (but maybe it is just too silly? Others, please chime in about it). I was going to make the banner pic go back to the home page, but if anyone else has suggestions for how to better navigate (remember, I dont want to make it EASY for the lad to use, just legit enough to be believeable) please tell me.

Also, have you "filled out" the new member form? It makes you wait 50 seconds, telling you it is processing, then brings up a red typeface that says that processing is taking longer than usual, and asks to wait for up to five more minutes. Eventually, you get an "Error 419 SQL server cannon be contacted" with instructions on how to DL the 3 (15 MB) bmp form files and how to fill them out by hand. Very Happy

I will get the forum up in the nest few days. Role playing for something like this could be real fun, esp if lad's are reading them. Very Happy

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:23 am

as a multimedia student, I would be happy to have a go at redesigning it and then sending back to you for uploading (I'm in melbourne australia). hopefully I'll have a bit more time as school starts again next week. I'd need help in importing the signup script though

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:26 am

I'd also get rid of the family pic, in case they use the pic to try scam someone else with, just lots of pics of stained glass windows, buildings and (VERY SMALL) pics of people

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

internationalchrysis, have at it. Just try to keep the HTML rather simple so I can edit it in notepad (the Web design tool I used Very Happy

). Just keep the text context and content intact (as that is what the site is based off of).

As per the pic of the family, I just googled "happy family pics" and grabbed a pic of a happy family... So not like such a thing is hard to get. I added it to show "happy people" to make the church feel like a great and happy place.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:36 am

Just one idea. In the FAQ's you state that those of monotheistic relgions cannot join. As many lads profess to be devoutly christian I think you will not hook them, unless you put something along the lines of you will accept Christians and Jews etc on the condition that they not only worship the wood godess, but they renounce their former religion and previous god.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:36 am

Will see what I can do. I have the entire CS3 suite, so can do some playing around. Pity you're not in Melbourne australia, I could give you a copy as well

Googled church websites, came up with this: http://churchbeauty.com

Hope it helps

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

Ophelia Dikki wrote:

Just one idea. In the FAQ's you state that those of monotheistic relgions cannot join. As many lads profess to be devoutly christian I think you will not hook them, unless you put something along the lines of you will accept Christians and Jews etc on the condition that they not only worship the wood godess, but they renounce their former religion and previous god.

That was the point Wink

. Basically, I didn't want to put that in the FAQ tho. That would be part of the baiting (IE they would have to provide "trophies" showing that they "totally believed" the new religion.). I'm sure various elders could find new and interesting methods of getting them to do this! Very Happy

@internationalchrysis, do what you can. If you can do this in all HTML 1.1 (or similar earlier standard) that would be optimal. (IE I would like to be able to modify it VERY easily in something as simple as notepad).

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:16 pm

Some words of wisdom regarding Religious Baiting.

I have experience , and some would say great success, in this modality. Check pictures & video for my work.

Firstly you could send ASEMs in reply to scam mails simply saying we cant help you, our church rules state we can only help other members. We are just starting out in West Africa/Whatever region you desire and our promising contact in Lagos-Nigeria just stopped contacting us without reason. He was about to receive his $50,000 in funding to start his mission, and if youd like to replace him we would love to talk to you about that.

Secondly get them to complete a set of forms. These can be as serious or as silly as you like. Aim for time consuming things, and things like requiring drawings to bring out your lads artistic side and waste alot of his time.

Thirdly ask them to prove their ability to attract new members by asking them to gather members together for a membership photograpgh. You could ask them to lift a banner up stating something like the following:

Church of the H0ly 0ak
Lagos-Nigeria Branch West Africa

Church M33ting Hall 0pening S00n

Br4nch Manag3r: Insert Mugu Name here
Project D1rect0r: Insert your name here

Church of the H0ly 0ak West Africa
(Insert relevant but funny remark here)
(Example "The Best Thing Th4ts 3v3r happen3d to West Africa)

Fourthly, along the way, if you receive a particularly dumb lad, you can say that he has been selected to be promoted to the next level in the church. This could be (example) F3llowship in the Church, where you promise more money, etc etc. Naturally this can involve another set of forms, or posing with more banners, both of which I have used successfully.

Fifthly, you should then say that your mugu is such an outstanding candidate and you would like to invite him to the West African Conf3r3nc3 for your church. At this meeting he will meet the other West African Pastors in your church and receive his funds. You could use the 5imba 5afari C4mp modality and get your mugu to travel to (example) Contonu-Benin and wait for the 55C bus to pick him up from the hotel. Of course thats never going to happen.

This is the steps I have followed, and twice Ive made it to safari stage, and currently one of my mugus still has faith even after that safari.

One thing I would advise is that if you wish to take this modality to the extreme, have a cell phone so you can take calls and re-assure your mugu that you actually exist.

If you need any more advice Ill try to help.

Regards Esq.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:33 pm

I'm not a church baiter by any means, but took a look around the site and put myself in a lads mindset ($$).

The resounding question was "what's in it for me". I see you make donations, but how much will you give, how much have you given? maybe a new members page showing recipients receiving the promised donations?

maybe you are looking at expanding? something to the effect of; we are currently looking for missionaries in Nigeria, gambia, Benin, etc.....

as i said, I am not a church baiter, just some thoughts i had.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:21 pm

I agree with gecko.
A "testimonials" page would certainly do it some good.

Maybe go into the trophy room and swipe a few pictures of some lads being baptized, building the monuments of faith etc.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 55

The disclaimer might look better if you add a horizontal rule above it, and eliminate the huge gaps between the lines. Just a thought.

EDIT: Look at www.tarvu.com for church site ideas, haha

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:01 pm

Quote:

Church of the H0ly 0ak West Africa
(Insert relevant but funny remark here)
(Example "The Best Thing Th4ts 3v3r happen3d to West Africa)

Hmmm...

"Planting the Seed of a New Faith"

"From a single holy acorn of faith, let the Mighty Holy Oak grow"

"The Holy Oak shelters all beneath its branches"

OK, those are more serious, but hey...

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:28 am

I luv these church sites Twisted Evil

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 241

<Bank accounts sent to mysterious Alan = 367>

That's a lot mate, enought to start a pig farm, ha ha.

how long did that take you?

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:40 am

Vulcan wrote:

EDIT: Look at www.tarvu.com for church site ideas, haha

Oh that is GOOD! I'm impressed!!! I think I may even have to dump the flying spaghetti monster as my chosen religion (pity really I'm quite partial to being a "Pastafarian")...

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:25 am

blah wrote:

I agree with gecko.
A "testimonials" page would certainly do it some good. Maybe go into the trophy room and swipe a few pictures of some lads being baptized, building the monuments of faith etc.

OOOOOh, (to papraphrase Krusty the Klown totally out of context), "Me rikey velly much!

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

Ok, I have taken suggestions in good stride. One guy may may a good CSS style sheet for me (good for if I need to change the "church"). Also, I like the testimonials concept (even though about it before posting the page, but my creative juices were thin (too much alcohol)).

Anyone want to make some testimonials? I figure if I have a testimonial from 5 or so different real people it would look better (and be more funny) than if I had just made them up.

Shoot me a pm, or post it in this thread (forgot if this thread is password protected or not.... hmm maybe just pm them to me).

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:31 am

I must report that I had a lot of trouble loading your site, Google did not recognise the address, I finally got it to load via Yahoo . Strange but true.

Get rid of the 'smiley" family photo, replace with one of Tom Cruse, far more impressive.

Not wishing to put your idea down, but I can't see where this is going, people that run religious scam's already have fake sites, If indeed one is needed in the first place. And while I don't do religious scam's I do have a cloistered member of the God squad on file, should religious advise, or counselling of the fallen be needed. Or a bit of fire and brimstone for the transgressors
The thing is how will scammers know where you are, or the scammed for that matter. Perhaps I'm missing the point, but I can't see a reason for a religious site to catch, trap, or convert scammers, back to the way of the light.
And if your intending to council the victims of scammers, Scamwarners does that already.
And while I wish you well with your project, I simply can't see the point of it.. Or what you think you will active..If in fact , you can attract anyone from the dark side in the first place.. And most off-um are far to busy sending out countless numbers of scripts, to have time to bother with any sort of forum.
And many, many people steer well clear of anything involving religion,, Just look at the way the 7th day's are treated when they call , right on dinner time. As for me I always invite them in, and discuss all and everything not connected with religion, Keep filling them up with tea, tell-um the dunny's busted. And more importantly don't let-um leave. three hours forty two minutes is my record so far. but now they just peddle right past. perhaps they don't like my brand of Tea

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

weareborg wrote:

I must report that I had a lot of trouble loading your site, Google did not recognise the address, I finally got it to load via Yahoo . Strange but true.

Get rid of the 'smiley" family photo, replace with one of Tom Cruse, far more impressive.

Not wishing to put your idea down, but I can't see where this is going, people that run religious scam's already have fake sites, If indeed one is needed in the first place. And while I don't do religious scam's I do have a cloistered member of the God squad on file, should religious advise, or counselling of the fallen be needed. Or a bit of fire and brimstone for the transgressors
The thing is how will scammers know where you are, or the scammed for that matter. Perhaps I'm missing the point, but I can't see a reason for a religious site to catch, trap, or convert scammers, back to the way of the light.
And if your intending to council the victims of scammers, Scamwarners does that already.
And while I wish you well with your project, I simply can't see the point of it.. Or what you think you will active..If in fact , you can attract anyone from the dark side in the first place.. And most off-um are far to busy sending out countless numbers of scripts, to have time to bother with any sort of forum.
And many, many people steer well clear of anything involving religion,, Just look at the way the 7th day's are treated when they call , right on dinner time. As for me I always invite them in, and discuss all and everything not connected with religion, Keep filling them up with tea, tell-um the dunny's busted. And more importantly don't let-um leave. three hours forty two minutes is my record so far. but now they just peddle right past. perhaps they don't like my brand of Tea

Ahh, I think I see what you are missing from why I made the "church". I made it as a "concrete" foundation for my baiting alter ego. Nothing more. Basically, it is to help legitimize my character so that the scammers will be more likely to believe I am the real Reverend of a real organization. It is easier to make up a church than to make up a company or corperation (which would be likely to be registered and easily searchable).

Basically, the church site is just a foundation for my ruse. (But with help from others, it could easily be used by other baiters as an easy foundation for some of their baits). IE If it evolves well, it will be just another tool in the baiter tool chest for others to use while baiting.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:47 am

Thanks for your explanation.. I hope it works out for you..

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:41 pm

I must admit I was caught out when my lad asked to see the church website. I just told him that I was outraged that he might think that our Holy Order would share the same cyberspace as all the violence, pornography and other works of the devil, such as Barry Manilow fansites.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 77

Father J@meson McFlurri3s may renounce the church of St. Titus M0n0m0 and begin praying to the wood goddess.

He is also the managing partner of the TK4M Investment Group, and has avoided any loss in the latest economic issues. He's looking for some tax breaks on his multi-million-dollar tax fee.

I also have some potential parishioners for you. Where are your branches located?

Not quite a Newb Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 77

Nice to see some people may want to use the church site as a backup to encourage their lads into believing them more.
As for where the branches are located, just make up whatever you want and I will add it into the info if you want. I can even add Father J@meson to the contacts if you want, just provide whatever fully correct, honest, and totally real contact info to me... (We all know what I mean when I say that Wink

).

There is another member on this forum that is doing up some CSS for my site, and the pics I saw looked awesome, so expect the church website to look much more professional in the near future. I am also dragging my feet on the forum atm, but I should get that up sometime soon.

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