My Zimbabwean in South Africa is Nigerian.

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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:58 pm

Well, who'd have thought it?

But ai, me! The joy of the dolla CHOP! Why did no-one tell me how much fun this was?

OK. Mugabe's 'war vets' killed my man's dad, he's in a refugee camp in South Africa with the cost of the farm in a box, etc. Now; I've been to Nigeria, twice, and all over southern Africa. I know South Africa extremely well and I like South Africans very much. Everyone in South Africa <<snip -- JMR>> and now I know why.

I give him the MG form with the receipt, I "throw the original form away", he has to get the eight digits from The Secure Place. When I finally chop him and send taunting emails telling him how I'm going to be walking up and down Neighbourhood X of City Y with the new shoes I've bought with his man's money, he goes apeshit, entertainingly, and asks me, Barrister M------ (my choppa), if I'm Naija. Yes, I am, and my pidgin is fluent and course.

He's as Nigerian as they come. But he's in Pretoria.

I'm going to invent the southern African Gømah.

He's clicked more than a hundred boxes today.

He's going to be chopped again.

I like baiting.

EDIT: This probably isn't news to anyone who knows either baiting or South Africa, but I'm enjoying my first extended bait and felt obliged to share.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

Sounds like an excellent bait! Good job. Thumbs up

However, we try to refrain from furthering racial/ethnic animosity so your comment about South Africans' disdain for people from other parts of Africa is really unnecessary.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:48 pm

Absolutely understood.

This is a sort of special case, though, especially in the light of last year's riots. I was there when they kicked off, and the unique antipathy people felt for Nigerians was discussed on television. I'm not condoning it, I'm merely stating a fact.

I was surprised to get a 'South African' scammer because, for all the problems of poverty and violence South Africa certainly has, organised fraud and deception isn't a big thing. I guessed my guy was Nigerian before he told my 'barrister'.

And he was.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

You'll find South African scammers to not be all that rare. My longest running, and most fruitful bait, involved two South African scammers who worked in concert with one another. I had plenty of pictures and other means of proof to show that they were indeed from SA. Their ineptitude, however, may prove your larger point that South Africans aren't as accomplished at organized crime. Very Happy

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:51 pm

JMRazor wrote:

You'll find South African scammers to not be all that rare. My longest running, and most fruitful bait, involved two South African scammers who worked in concert with one another. I had plenty of pictures and other means of proof to show that they were indeed from SA. Their ineptitude, however, may prove your larger point that South Africans aren't as accomplished at organized crime. Very Happy

Heh. Judging by your MASSIVE list of trophy icons, I'm going to take your word for it! Smile

No joke. I'll feel bad squeezing South Africans, though . . .

. . . . for about thirteen seconds.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:53 pm

Some of my best mass phone baits have been set up by flooding ladland with an ASEM that expresses a South African scammer's interest in proceeding as a naive victim. I give them his number, they call it ad nauseum, and then complain to me by email about all the ensuing trouble, because they think that he and I are the same.

If the South African scammer is actually from West Africa, no big deal. But if he is native, then the potential for a heated verbal exchange with a West African caller is much higher. The vast majority of call-related emails that I receive originate in West Africa.

The language and cultural differences between the two regions are a simple fact of life and I don't mind using that fact to ratchet up the lad pain on both ends.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:54 pm

I had a scammer last year claiming to be a Zimbabwean refugee in South Africa and wanted Captain Mal to come to Pretoria - but the scammers (including the inevitable lawyers) were all in Nigeria.

At the time there were race riots in several South African cities targeting Nigerians and Zimbabweans, which added to the strangeness.

Actually that was a bait with a double layer of weirdness - such as when an apparent outsider tried to derail matters (by claiming to be the Lad and telling me the deal had been changed, and writing under a name very close to my other baiter persona to tell the Lad I was a liar).

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