Author |
Message |
The Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 2885
Location: La La Land
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:32 pm |
|
Please move to correct forum if this is not it...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece
It would appear that the UK is going to require some kind of positive ID for cell phone purchase. I thought in our discussions in the UK you could get a pre-paid for cash and not have your real life details associated with it.
Is there a real chance of this passing? |
_________________ ---
The Man
YOU ARE A CHILD OF SATAN WITH YOUR HUNGRY DIRTY BODY ,TUNDER FIRE YOU BIG HEAD IDIOT !!! HA HA HA HA HA
IS THIS HOW YOU DECIDED TO TREAT US AFTER ALL WE WENT THROUGH?YOU MADE US TRAVELLED TO ABUJA AND INDEBTED US.
"Cursed is your mother that gave birth to a family-disgrace like you. Cursed is your father he could not control his lust for anything under skate"
"hey u crakhead motherf*cking nitwit, from the way u express the cockamamy sh*t that ur dumb brain is made up of it's so obvious that u never really made it past elementary school but anywayz dogs don't have to go to school afterall."
(Lagos to Abuja)
x2
<---in lieu of a brownie. TS
x8 |
|
|
|
Craig007
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 3123
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:47 pm |
|
Jesus Christ.
Yet another invasion of privacy. I won't say much more, cause I'd go political
A passport to buy a phone? Pick me up from the floor. Soon we won't be able to sneeze without someone at GCHQ sending the bomb squad round
I sincerely hope this does not pass, for more reasons than the obvious.
EDIT: After re-reading the passage, I don't need to say anything, this paragraph says it all:
Quote: |
...to create a huge database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain. |
|
_________________ CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL
x7
Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
100% RISK FREE TRANSACTION
CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
|
|
|
bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:01 pm |
|
Hey no problem, they're not that expensive, buy one for all your good friends and I'm sure you'll get a few back that you can use.
That's simple enough, but can you imagine the trouble you're in when one gets stolen or lost, or just swapped with a friend
And if you ask can I use your phone? They'll pick you up for interrogation? Smart idea, simply brilliant |
_________________ I don't do bling, I just do lads
Last edited by bill2 on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
|
|
Nurse Nasty
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: Australia, where a dingo stole my eski
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:10 pm |
|
|
|
|
streaded
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 Aug 2008
Posts: 147
Location: Streded in hash conditions
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:36 pm |
|
of course they have not thought about the fact that criminals will happily use a stolen phone
the value of a stolen phone will go up massively meaning criminals will try harder to steal them.
someone steals your phone and you will be investigated for any activity related to calls made on it.
the same goes for email messages, if your account gets hacked you will be in trouble for it no doubt.
still it is good to know that inspite of the economic crisis our government has plenty of money left after bailing out banks to do this to make our lives safer |
_________________ Streaded here reading about TWATs adventures on holiday |
|
|
|
Mr Tambourine Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 3398
Location: Magic swirlin' ship
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:55 pm |
|
Even if it happens, it will take months. More than enough time for criminals and terrorists to stock up with pay-as-you-go phones. And they have them already. |
_________________ is always Good when you have the zeal to be a hitwoman when you out of school,it makes you bold and reall and it makes you more high than any other of your friend.
NOW AMBACK FOR YOU AGAIN STURBORN SHIT
you dont have a phone.that makes makes you joe butt
Fuck you and go find something to do man. Stop disturbing me please.
This is definitely why you will remain and die in poverty, ignorant of good things and easy acknowledgment of bad things and words. Shame on you, you wicked generation children.
i went you to no that this is not a cheld pray. i went you to get back to me
we are not scammer,we hate scammer as you do.scammer make out life harder and harder,a lot of people think we are scammer,in fact,we are not!! please trustt us |
|
|
|
bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:02 pm |
|
Look at those new markets then, foreign redirect your number sites, your anonymous internet phone number and no more free internet in hotels, library's and airports, smart move, that must have taken some really smart person a long time to figure that out. |
_________________ I don't do bling, I just do lads |
|
|
|
Pastor Frank
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 12237
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:44 pm |
|
How would they prevent someone from picking up something like this on Ebay? |
_________________ "Father Juan are sure that you are man of God,because your behaviors showed you as unbeliever" -Mary R |
|
|
|
Mugatu
** Retired **
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 3773
Location: The star of India
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:54 pm |
|
^^ Exactly. You'll never stop the second hand, cash only sales of used phones. All it does it makes it hard for law abiding people to buy phones. Terrorists can still get hold of them through their usual underground sources... it's not like they've ever bought them from a shop anyway, and they're not going to start now.
I can't see this getting passed, it's just unworkable here... though NN's comment makes me think twice, clearly it happens elsewhere! |
_________________ - because you deserve them! x19
Thinking of using phone modalities? Attend the 419eater university on audio baiting.
"They made me to understand you are a Fraud Star" - Ikenna.
"I like traveling very much, it is so exciting and interesting to see foreign countries. but I have never been to foreign countries." - Marina.
"I will have you now I am highly reputable businness magnet." - Pam Doh
"Sorry,i do not know you are all that: a destitute and nuts" - Ben Chris |
|
|
|
Esq
Poster Boi
Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Posts: 684
Location: MHC6 HQ, Australia
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:58 pm |
|
i got my vodafone and registered it with a computer operator. they said please say your d/lic #. I said 1122334455.
Ive never heard anything back from them |
_________________ =Mr Thomas (MHC6 Lagos) Lagos - Contonou
=Mr James (MHC6 Lagos) Lagos - Contonou
= I knew that MHC6 is one of the wonders in the World,and all of us have to exprience it,and understand it - Okunlola O. Thomas FMHC6
I WAS AT THE NOVOTEL ORISHA HOTEL TILL 11 PM THAT DAY AND I WAS TOLD BY THE HOTEL STAFFS THAT I CAN NOT SPEND A NIGHT THERE AND I HAVE TO LEAVE AND WHENT TO THE NIGERIA EMBASSY THERE IN COTONOU TO STAY TILL THE FOLLOWING DAY AND I CALLED YOU THE FOLLOWING DAY AND YOU ASKED ME TO RETURN BACK TO NIGERIA WHICH I DID AND THAT HAS BEING MY WOST DAYS IN LIFE AS WAS EXPOSED TO A FULL TIME DIFFICITIES. - Augus5tine J4m35 |
|
|
|
The Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 2885
Location: La La Land
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:44 pm |
|
I have not looked into a pay as you go phone here in the US, but I suspect it is a call in to activate situation where you can lie like a lad about your info, and as long as you paid cash for the phone you are good to go. |
_________________ ---
The Man
YOU ARE A CHILD OF SATAN WITH YOUR HUNGRY DIRTY BODY ,TUNDER FIRE YOU BIG HEAD IDIOT !!! HA HA HA HA HA
IS THIS HOW YOU DECIDED TO TREAT US AFTER ALL WE WENT THROUGH?YOU MADE US TRAVELLED TO ABUJA AND INDEBTED US.
"Cursed is your mother that gave birth to a family-disgrace like you. Cursed is your father he could not control his lust for anything under skate"
"hey u crakhead motherf*cking nitwit, from the way u express the cockamamy sh*t that ur dumb brain is made up of it's so obvious that u never really made it past elementary school but anywayz dogs don't have to go to school afterall."
(Lagos to Abuja)
x2
<---in lieu of a brownie. TS
x8 |
|
|
|
Mugatu
** Retired **
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 3773
Location: The star of India
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:53 pm |
|
^^ From what I've gathered from other conversations in the past, the ones you buy at Wal Mart etc are pre loaded with credit, and I believe that to activate the number, you just make a billable call. There is no requirement to register.
As you say, if any of the companies do require you to register, it's easy to provide false details. I've done it with a few of my UK numbers. |
_________________ - because you deserve them! x19
Thinking of using phone modalities? Attend the 419eater university on audio baiting.
"They made me to understand you are a Fraud Star" - Ikenna.
"I like traveling very much, it is so exciting and interesting to see foreign countries. but I have never been to foreign countries." - Marina.
"I will have you now I am highly reputable businness magnet." - Pam Doh
"Sorry,i do not know you are all that: a destitute and nuts" - Ben Chris |
|
|
|
manbiteslion
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 4816
Location: Connecting my chair and keyboard
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:26 pm |
|
It's another attempt to get the whole database etc behind the ID cards idea a step closer. Ridiculous for many many reasons including ...
It'll take years - the (any) government has proved time and time again incapable of managing massive IT projects (NHS, CSA, etc).
All our unencrypted calls and emails can already be plucked off the air/wires by MI5 if they want them.
It does absolutely zero to improve security (Madrid train bombers - Spain have ID cards, didn't stop them)
We are already one of the most monitored countries in the world - there's a CCTV camera for every 14 people living in the country I read somewhere - even if that's an exaggeration there are still a staggering number compared with other countries.
The Lords (second parliamentary house) will block it thank god.
Don't stand for it, search NO2ID to see campaigns against this nonsense. Write to your MP saying you'll vote Tory if they oppose this whether or not it's true - Cameron can scare Brown off this I'm sure for now, but the buggers will keep on trying I'm sure!
I'm actually not anti the state being able to protect our interests as a nation by following the actions of hostile elements - it's generally one of the key roles of government to protect its voters - but this kind of balderdash contributes nothing towards that goal so must be opposed.
my 2p again, for what it's worth. |
|
|
|
|
Gnasher
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 2849
Location: Centre Stage in the Theatre of Cruelty
|
Posted:
Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:22 pm |
|
Mugatu wrote: |
^^ Exactly. You'll never stop the second hand, cash only sales of used phones. All it does it makes it hard for law abiding people to buy phones. Terrorists can still get hold of them through their usual underground sources... it's not like they've ever bought them from a shop anyway, and they're not going to start now.
I can't see this getting passed, it's just unworkable here... though NN's comment makes me think twice, clearly it happens elsewhere! |
How so? I don't think they need a DNA profile yet, just a driving licence or some other picture ID will do. And I think here in Oz it applies to purchasing a new SIM card, not a phone? Of course the crims will find a way around it. However, it makes it difficult to bait using a totally anonymous and untraceable phone number. |
_________________ x21
"you have to pay because he need to submit this form to the Federal Ministry Of Fancies" Barrister John/Mike/Richard Okeke
"they are in deed the swinders rotating about in the net and searching for whom they will stylishly defraud your belongings" A. Moron
"Please pray harder for God to guide and protect us during our travelling because flight airplane i observe is a very big risky" Abdul Karibu
"WE DOESN'T LIKE HOW DISOBIDIENT YOU ARE!" Coco Law Chambers
"BE INFORMED THAT YOU WILL INCUR DUMMERAGE AFTER 9 DAYS FROM TODAY" Burkina Faso Air Secure Air Service.\ |
|
|
|
angusmactavish
419Eater is my life
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 252
Location: Oglethorpe's colony Atlantic (GMT-5)
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:41 am |
|
I bought a prepaid cell phone here in the US a couple of years ago for my (now) 80 year old dad and as best as I remember, all we had to do to activate it was dial a phone number and punch in a code included with the phone. Of course, every time he adds time to it, he has to give HIS credit card number.
A co-worker has his phone stolen from his car. The police told him there would probably be only one unauthorized call within minutes of the theft and then the phone was probably thrown in a trash bin. Exactly what happened. Probable drug deal according to the authorities.
Every time I've dealt with my cell carrier I have to give them personal information that I think is more related to my ability to pay the bill than my political and/or criminal affiliations.
Absolutely no political intent in the following: I love British TV, one of my favorite program(me)s is MI-5 or Spooks as it was known in the UK. Currently I'm following "The Last Enemy" on PBS. I was watching an episode with my niece and remarked, after a scene filmed from a high rise flat in London, "wouldn't you like to live in London with that view?" and she replied, "not with all those cameras".
my advice to her was, I suppose with technology going where it is, the sort of world depicted in this story is inevitable, guess it's best to assure you're on the "inside"
No politics, just smart-ass sarcasm.
|
_________________ U BE MAGA U ARE VERY WICKED I MUST TELL AND STUPID - Charles Blaise
Listen, my contact with you in this transaction does not warrant you to insult my personality for any reason. - Godwin Luis
x18 |
|
|
|
internationalchrysis
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Aug 2008
Posts: 3793
Location: Romancing the (Blood from a) stone!
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:21 am |
|
Nurse Nasty wrote: |
They do that in Ozland. You can't get a unregistered mobile phone and package without giving them a drivers licence number. It must have something to do with all those dangerous terrorists we have in Australia. |
If you don't drive, then the ID thingy gets annoying. I bought a phone for my daughter recently and they wanted ID from both of us... But I agree, we're SO flooded with terrorists here in Oztraylia. I can't get on a tram with bumping into a C4 package.. . Ooooeer |
_________________ Proud "member" of "The Todger Club"!
x1 (Senegal to Gambia)
"You can go now and f*ck yourself with a donkey or horse because you really need to be f*cked by a donkey or horse"
(George Michael's brother Frank/Frannypoo)
"You are a dead meat!"
(Léon the (Not so) Professional)
(19 in total:
x2 Léon the (not so) Professional. x4 Via Swindler's list. x4 Via Will and Grace the Law Firm. x3 *Hitman, x1 Hitman: The sequel!, , x1 Haiti scam, x1 The Bimbo (via Umbongo Chambers),
x1 Rita the ETA eater, x1 Via Team Doughnut, x1 Via Prince Emaka, x4 via the Nazis) |
|
|
|
N N N
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
Posts: 689
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:57 am |
|
you will just have to learn to talk in code on your mobile so use a phrase like (for example) "I'm going to bomb the white house" when you are about to go to the bathroom .... that'll confuse 'em! |
|
|
|
|
harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 1489
Location: Not Happy
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:51 am |
|
I've registered lots of SIM's and it's like everything else if you are an honest person you won't have a problem. If you need a phone for criminal reasons there's not a law in any land will stop you. I've put crap in the registration details as well it works so no real hassle. It will be a toothless law if they pass it.
However I'm sure someone will get busted because they had a secret number for the mistress or for baiting. The terrorists won't even bat an eyelid. |
_________________
|
|
|
|
Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:00 am |
|
Same in France.
At least we can be "anonymous" for 2 weeks:
I just bought an Orange Bic Phone, cash, pre-paid and ready to go.
I've read all the papers (even the little characters) and they make it very clear that they will cut the line if they don't receive a scan of an ID card (yes, of an ID card) within 15 days. Grrrrrrr.
I don't even understand the purpose. |
_________________ http://jeromegrancher.blogspot.com/
French-speaking scambaiters community:
http://forum.croque-escrocs.fr/
|
|
|
|
sunshine
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Posts: 2804
Location: Anywhere a lad needs setting on fire
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:05 am |
|
Even if the phones are no longer anonymous (and this law will be passed - remember all those other ones that would never pass and are now on the statute books) I think it's very unlikely that a lad would ever find out who the real owner of a phone was...
... oh hang on this is the government that loses millions of people's bank details in the post, sells second hand computers containing personal data, leaves CDs of army recruits details on the train...
Are we sure that Gordon Brown isn't an oga? |
_________________ so dont push my spirit to do a bad fasting for your head if not you will confam your self as a died person okay - Pastor Divine
OBOSH WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. YOU WILL NEVER SEE GOOD THING IN LIFE. OGUN WILL KILL YOU BASTARD SUN OF OBOSH. - Dr Oilyseagoon
AN ALIEN YOU ARE FROM THE PIT OF HELL - Abraham
I have explain this whole process to you so many times over and over again. - Spencer
Praveen - Hanuman Junction - Hyderabad x2
Bola - Accra - Cotonou Alex - Accra - Abidjan Austin - Accra - Abidjan
George - Accra - Cotonou - Lome - Niamtougou Toks London - Milford Haven
x170 Engineer Cooke vs. Temeraire x8 |
|
|
|
Red
Baiting Guru
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 2543
Location: 6°27′11″N 3°23′45″E
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:11 am |
|
FYI this is the current situation in India. It is not a big deal and means that if there's no photo record against your SIM card then there's a problem.
Simple solution to a big problem if you ask me. |
_________________ x36 x6 x2 x10 x5 x4 x6 x8 x2 x2 x11 x3 x3 x13 x3 x2 x3 x3 x2 x4 x2 x2 x2 x4 x3 x3 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2
1k3: West African Tour
Ben: Lagos (Nigeria) - Accra (Ghana)
x10 |
|
|
|
Roycropper
Baiting Guru
Joined: 14 Nov 2005
Posts: 7992
Location: Luxury Coffin
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:06 am |
|
It'll never work, there are already too many anonymous SIM cards out there, unless they switch them all of and make people re-register.
As has been said, stolen mobiles will become more valuable.
Coming in the same week as they say they want a database of all our email and website visits, , what they don't mention is that, if you have it switched on, we can all be tracked by mobile already, as comes to light in prominent court cases.
I don't think any of this will be allowed to happen, however high on a Police / state wishlist it may be. Do you think Lord Soandso (the Professor's rich cousin) will want the papers to know that after visiting Madam Spanky's, he went home and logged in to largeladiesbendingover.com? |
_________________ the European Union has bounced on our freckles
COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I WENT TO THE BANK
our Agent is Completely broke, pocketless and stranded
I WLL SEND AN AFRICA WITCH TO ATTACH YOU BASTARD
You go die like bird
i started shouting HALLELUJAGOBBLE but none of them notice me immediately police arrested me due to the shouting
f*ck u asshole ur damn mother will loose ur fcuking skull brain ur brain is nothing to compare with rat f*ck ur u
MY FRIEND ALEX WAS DETAINED IN POLICE STATION
I am not happy due to the question i answered at money office. Let me tell you do not play with me ok.
x4 6Yrs x6 |
|
|
|
SlapHappy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 9612
Location: Floating up and down with happiness.
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:40 pm |
|
Lord Soandso will just use a stolen phone, Roy.^^ |
_________________ x Reven U., Fats Walla, Donny
x10 X2 MM:Mikex2, JohnK, D@rlington, Ob1, Armstrong, Ismail, TG&Friend
x3 Nancy, Security Guy, Robert Accra-Tamale
(19 mo.) Tina and Joe's Safari - Accra to Niger & Timbucktu
Z@ke & Charlie -Wulugu Or Bust Safari- Lagos to Paga & Tokwari X2 - 3800mi.
x3 H3ctor & C@leb - Yankar1 & Parakou
x2 Charles and Friend-Amsterdam to Vatican
Issac to Chad
Be A Cool Cat, Like Me Trophy Videos Cool Stuff
|
|
|
|
Donato
Baiting Guru
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Posts: 2922
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:53 pm |
|
So glad i left...
I seriously recommend some further reading on this matter... |
_________________ ^^^ damn tree hugging hippy. -imike
Your are a complete ASSHOLE!! Dont you dare mail me again BASTARD!!!-george harrison
- lots
<i><b>Free Pastor Frank!!!</b></i> |
|
|
|
Lord Ba'al
Master Baiter
Joined: 08 Nov 2007
Posts: 170
Location: The Kingdom
|
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:35 pm |
|
It's a bit late now thought with all free sim cards you can get off o2, orange etc. |
_________________ Mr Koffi John - Please return this massage to the sender if gotten in error.
Jóhn Mártins - You think you can scope me.
x1 |
|
|
|
|