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Eight
Retired Moderator
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 8710
Location: UK
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:39 pm |
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I'm shamelessly plugging the Fake Sites forum here, and the brilliant mentoring system the guys there have running, and I am doing it here so that those of you who don't ordinarily visit the fakes forum will see it.
I've been here over 4 years but have not had a great deal to do with killing fakes until recently, when a fellow mod suggested I try it. Thanks to the talented experts here, I've gone from knowing nothing to having 12 flags in a month. Although, given the advice and assistance I've had from them, the flags properly belong to Tsnerd, Ima Baeder, Artemis, and Freddy. There are many more fake slayers who have put their huge knowledge into clear useful information for new people, which helps a lot when you're starting out, or who post helpful tips and suggestions along the way. There's a real enthusiasm for teaching would-be killers, and you get a great buzz when your first fake dies and you know you've kicked a lad where it hurts. Not only does it save victims from being convinced by the fake site, but it also costs the lad whatever he had to pay the designer and/or hoster.
Get over there and give it a go. It may not be your thing, but at least then you'll know. And it may give you a real kick, as it has me, and then you won't have to think as I do - that I wish I'd tried it years ago.
Edited to add link to mentoring thread. |
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Mugatu
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:48 pm |
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As one of the most recent converts, I can say that even for someone who's not net savvy, it's fairly straightforward. Of course that's helped by the very good teachers that we have here, they are very knowledgeable and helpful.
I'm not going into site killing full time, but even for a standard baiter it's nice to have the skills to bump off any sites yourself that you may stumble on in your baits.
As they say over at aa419, "A lad cries when his site dies". |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:53 pm |
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Until now I saw it as just hard work with no or low entertainment value, but I might give it a try, if Eight likes it, it must be good |
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Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:58 pm |
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Just Jane
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:17 pm |
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Yes to all of the above. I have several baits now requiring attention that have kept me away from it as of late but hope to return soon. It can be addictive and the rewards are quicker than toying with the lads in the usual way. I'm far from an expert but the mentors/mods over there have been more than helpful (and patient).
Aside from the satisfaction of hitting the lad where it hurts, you get some nice bling for your sig line too |
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Eight
Retired Moderator
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 8710
Location: UK
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:24 pm |
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Thanks, bill. It may not be your thing, but then again you may find you really take to it. If you like researching stuff, and having a dig around the byways and highways of the internet, chances are this will suit you well. And if you like the smell of fakes being napalmed in the morning, it's definitely for you. |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:43 pm |
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I'm more the sniper kind of guy, now you're here, now you're gone, but I can re-school of course, adapt and overcome like the Yanks say (do they? hangs in my head from some movie or so?, my main source of "new" English, around here we talk crop, cattle and weather and that's it) |
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The Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 2885
Location: La La Land
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:14 pm |
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Yes the fake killing is good. It is not as "funny" as baiting, but for me it is good when I have some time to devote to hurting lads, but don't think I'll have the time to devote to a bait over time. I.E. I have 20 minutes NOW to do something, but won't next week, so a bait is out.
It is like being a sniper to me.... you send the abuse note to the ISP and BAM the lad's site is down and he had NO idea it was coming |
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Ima Baeder
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 18313
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:20 pm |
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Thanks for the plug, Eight.
We're very welcoming and have very helpful mentors contributing to the group mentoring project. We've been likened to drug pushers, I believe, which is apt in some ways as killing sites is very addictive.
Even if baiters don't want to devote a lot of time to killing sites, it is great to have the knowledge to kill the sites that come up in your baits. I've done this and those deaded sites are extra satisfying. |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:30 pm |
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@ Ima Baeder 77 kills! You are addicted
Read the info, very well organized, simple and thorough, I assume not every aa419 member will have access to the DB? So I best report it here.
Which brings me to my question, finding them pure luck or do we hunt organized over the WWW ? I mean is there a trick/way to find fake sites? Google for bank and check them all ?
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Results 1 - 10 of about 650,000,000 |
That's hard work |
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Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm |
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Ima Baeder
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 18313
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm |
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@Bill2, thanks for counting my flags, I haven't recently.
To answer your question, and for general information for others:
Where we find fake sites: Some people research to find them. For regular baiters, the most likely place to find them is in the course of a bait; the lad will send you a link to his site. Additionally, we often find the domain being used for emails for a script. I have found many fake domains in the surplus forum here. You can find them in your catcher account as well. There are other anti scam sites that note/post the fraudulent domains but don't report them to the hosters and registrars. We also post and kill those.
If you think you have found a fake site, you can post it in the Fake Bank forum. Posting guidelines are noted in a sticky topic there (but don't worry, we'll help you out). Request help and Site Killers will help you with the research for evidence of fraud.
Fake sites should always be entered into the DB of fake sites kept at aa419 before being reported. Only some members do database entries as it is extremely important that a site be verified as fraudulent before being entered and/or reported. Gathering information regarding the registrant name and address used also helps to track prolific fake site lads. Sites can be posted in the fake bank forum here and those members who do the entries will keep track and enter when appropriate.
I'm glad to have interest in this.
Edited to add a bit of info. |
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Mugatu
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Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 3773
Location: The star of India
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm |
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http://www.copyscape.com/ is a very good resource for finding copied site content. Credit to Freddy for teaching me that. |
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Thinking of using phone modalities? Attend the 419eater university on audio baiting.
"They made me to understand you are a Fraud Star" - Ikenna.
"I like traveling very much, it is so exciting and interesting to see foreign countries. but I have never been to foreign countries." - Marina.
"I will have you now I am highly reputable businness magnet." - Pam Doh
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Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:54 pm |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:58 pm |
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Some people research to find them |
Now if they please could contact me and are willing to teach me the ropes or just putting me in the right direction, then I would say I spend my Internet time well Seems like the right thing to do or I should start baiting phone lads again and I didn't have much fun doing that. (copy and paste)
Just found my first steps to killing a site back, Thanks SP, but we were interrupted by a bot attack on the eater then.
Thank you all for the help and info so far. An interesting Sunday afternoon to say the least. THANKS
Bill
(Gone studying this new subject for a while) |
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Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:03 pm |
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Mugatu
** Retired **
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 3773
Location: The star of India
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:07 pm |
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Post each one in a seperate thread in the fake banks forum. Start the title with the word "FAKE?"
The experts will look into them for you.
Edit: The first two are almost certainly fake, they are only registered for one year and the second one has very shaky registrant info.
They are hosted on Belgian and french hosting companies, go get them Bertrand! |
_________________ - because you deserve them! x19
Thinking of using phone modalities? Attend the 419eater university on audio baiting.
"They made me to understand you are a Fraud Star" - Ikenna.
"I like traveling very much, it is so exciting and interesting to see foreign countries. but I have never been to foreign countries." - Marina.
"I will have you now I am highly reputable businness magnet." - Pam Doh
"Sorry,i do not know you are all that: a destitute and nuts" - Ben Chris |
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Artemis
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 31267
Location: Lower Elements
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:38 pm |
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I can also recommend it
...and a registrar kill is the next best thing to....
I'm available at any time for those that need help. |
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Ima Baeder
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 18313
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:43 pm |
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A great tutorial for learning how to look for evidence of fraud on a site has been written by justjay and is part of the Eater University forum, here
A current list of Site Killing mentors is:
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Akai Ryu
Artemis
B.A. Ware
benjaminbunny
Freddy
full auto
HellRyder
Ima Baeder
justjay
maq
music man
Old No. 7
Oxygen Deprived
Pilgrim
smartbomb
Special_K
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Posting guidelines for the Fake Bank forum are here
Please post suspect sites or PM any of the mentors for help. Don't forget to sign up on the mentor thread Eight linked to if you'd like the introductory information sent to you.
I also want to thank Artemis for being very dedicated to the FB forum. He does a lot of great work in there. |
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Betty Hash
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 18 Sep 2008
Posts: 38
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:48 pm |
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Super thanks to the continuing mentoring of the above listed. And for the n00bs, it is kind of fun and addictive. It really doesn't take too much time either. |
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Dutch
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 4204
Location: Dislocated
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:22 pm |
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'error 404, this page does not exist' is one of the best errors I got from firefox lately |
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Corona
Baiting Guru
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 8809
Location: On ya left!
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:24 pm |
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VicMackey
Master Baiter
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
Posts: 116
Location: Farmington
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:53 pm |
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Eight's post makes it sound ideal for me. Tomorrow morning, once I've had my cig and the kettle's boiled, I'm on it. |
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full auto
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Joined: 30 May 2007
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Location: Lost in a digital age/provided by tor.
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:24 pm |
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@ Eight: Very nice post and thank you for the "shameless plug" for this program.
Now it's my turn to plug shamelessly, as much as the people helping in this program may be likened to drug dealers (nice one Ima ), I'll have to admit that the people that come running through this program are coming at it like spitfires and rabid dogs. To those who have entered and done their fair share of lad damage, you are DOING A GREAT JOB! We are just here to facilitate and help out whenever we can... you guys grease the wheels of this program with fresh lad pain, sweat, blood, and tears from all the site kills. Again, good job to the many killers I've seen coming through.
@ All those above wanting to check it out. Check out the list here. Any member on that list would be happy to pass you a starters guide to site murdering and help along the way to getting a kill. |
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smartbomb
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Joined: 14 May 2007
Posts: 750
Location: Air
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:32 pm |
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