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ernieh1969
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 93
Location: If you find out, tell ME!
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:00 am |
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Sorry if this has been posted before. I searched but didn't see anything.
Just wondering if you would share one or a few of the biggest mistakes you've made during a bait, what you learned from it, and how it effected the bait.
For me it's always patience. I have a nice plot worked out and struggle to let time pass instead of buying time and building trust. I've learned to semi-script my replies and set approx times to initiate the next step. I lost quite a few of my first lads due to pushing to fast and far. |
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:23 am |
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I get bored and quit answering the lad, he try's to re-scam me, but if they're just no fun their no fun. |
_________________ I don't do bling, I just do lads |
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atallman
Master Baiter
Joined: 25 Jul 2006
Posts: 105
Location: gone fishing
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:26 am |
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-Asking for a trophy picture on my first email
-Forgetting which email account I'm on and signing off in the wrong name although it is easy enough to recover from if they even notice it.
-Wasting more of my time filling in or creating forms or photo shopping things (they never open them anyway or you can find pretty much anything you need on the net)
-Sending them material which they can recycle and use on real victims
-Replying with anything longer then a paragraph.
-Not asking my mentor enough questions
-Forgetting to keep trace of international time zones which helps in prolonging the bait http://www.worldtimeserver.com/
-Not understanding the scam before getting involved.
-being a trophy whore
-Thinking I must reply straight away
-Forgetting that I have a real life and it is good to turn a computer off
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Anti-419
Elite Baiter
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 1804
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:50 am |
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Like the lads, some of my baits run on scripts. Well, I end up sending the wrong scripts to the wrong lads. Lads were not very happy. |
_________________ Barr Marc Hycinth: "I HATE HOW MY NAME IS BEEN RUBISHED AT THE CASHING OFFICE TODAY."
Safari Lad: "...your mails are a healing balm to my condiction here."
Jeremiah Nnamani: "With you I wouldn't mind being a fool for the rest of my life."
James Bruce: "Thanks for your mail and also your insult to my personality and company."
Baiting Record:
Trophies - 128 | 4 AM Airport Taxi - 6
- Sierra Leone to Nigeria - "...please help me ,you brought me here to NIgeria.take me out."
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thefife
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 2261
Location: Soaked in Holy Ghost Fiyah...it tastes like chicken
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:37 am |
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I'm Miss Perfect therefore I make no baiting mistakes.
Except one time, due to jet lag from a transatlantic flight (yes, that's right, it's the plane's fault) I meant to forward an email from the incomparable Pastor Ramesh to my mentor, but hit reply by accident. It was full of all kinds of stuff the mugu should not have read too. The mugu had mailed me 3 thick envelopes of stuff, which he was explicitly told not to do. Of course, they were all returned to him saying the address didn't exist (go figure) so he was confused, naturally. So after seriously freaking out, not able to reach my mentor & not getting any other help from anyone I had the Archbishop & the church's security team write emails to undisclosed recipients (mugu & some of my other characters who were interested in the situation ) about how we were hacked, by TWAT I believe, and all emails were to be disregarded and forwarded to the church for further investigation. If I remember correctly, I even sent him a little newspaper clipping of the unfortunate incident. I also gave him a call, which he was most appreciative of. He assured me he was still utterly devoted to me & the church & we all lived happily ever after. Sure, he is still awaiting the arrival of his bicycle (& rickshaw attachment which will be a total surprise for him), but let's not split hairs.
The end. |
_________________ Mercedes-Benz Safari Invitational Peter S0lomon Lagos to Calabar Lagos to Kano via Abuja (w/ OxygenDeprived)
Barr. Johnny Gawa: Hello Baby.
Let hope to make it more real for good. (+2 pics of him rockin his delicate underthings)
Pastor Ramesh:Dear Mother Guch33y B4ggs in christ,
...So we want repair our tached prayer house. If you would like to help us 500 dollars it will be great help...Now I am some pictures for your kind notice. I am waiting for your reply.
Thanking you. Yours in His service (+ Banner!)
Pastor Ramesh: I dont want any luxary life ...Presently I need bicycle. It cost nearly $100 dollars. If you give this it is great need for me.
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CowboyBuck
Elite Baiter
Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 1077
Location: Riding the Western Union Trail
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:13 am |
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I got two lads' barristers mixed up, actually worked out pretty well. |
_________________ Accra to Abuja to Lagos
Mr. King - May 2008 to May 2009
A few more
Right now I am getting pissed with your responses
And still you later claimed there are snakes on the road to the Western Union
Please for the sake of humanity help Mr. Felix and I to get this money |
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Bobtheelephant
419Eater is my life
Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 381
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:41 am |
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Us noobs really appreciate threads like this. Thanks for sharing your embarrassments all.
I'm having patience issues myself right now. |
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Master
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 2531
Location: AU
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:59 am |
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I am no expert but here is a little of my opinion
I am getting better but you begin to learn what to say to get their attn and what not to say.
I am really starting to see why you need a good plan(and experience) to stick to, so you can shepheard your lad into the required pen.
I tend to go a little stupid with them sometimes. but u lose lads that way if they are only hooked in the lip.
It just takes time to get some knowledge on how they work |
_________________ 2,633 miles:"i am coming to safari myself"
All you did is a bunches of fucked-up!FIRE burn the G0mers!
Shorty & Hectard escape from guantanamo
it was all a big fuck of disappointed
you are the fooliest baboom!
You are dead MUMU!!!! |
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Dott. Giascopato
Elite Baiter
Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1174
Location: Germany
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:25 am |
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-Forgetting which email account I'm on and signing off in the wrong name although it is easy enough to recover from if they even notice it. |
Me too. |
_________________ Dott. Giascopato
non importunare.
Some from: x7
Failure to complies with this order require a severe act by the mets and
purnishment by law. (The Metropolitan Police)
fork off.. ([email protected]) |
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Gnasher
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 2849
Location: Centre Stage in the Theatre of Cruelty
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:09 am |
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I think atallman's excellent list pretty much covers the most common mistakes. In a nutshell, don't try to run before you can walk. I would add don't assume it's easy just because the experts make it appear that way. A lot of baiting involves just chipping away at your lad and if you are lucky you will strike gold. |
_________________ x21
"you have to pay because he need to submit this form to the Federal Ministry Of Fancies" Barrister John/Mike/Richard Okeke
"they are in deed the swinders rotating about in the net and searching for whom they will stylishly defraud your belongings" A. Moron
"Please pray harder for God to guide and protect us during our travelling because flight airplane i observe is a very big risky" Abdul Karibu
"WE DOESN'T LIKE HOW DISOBIDIENT YOU ARE!" Coco Law Chambers
"BE INFORMED THAT YOU WILL INCUR DUMMERAGE AFTER 9 DAYS FROM TODAY" Burkina Faso Air Secure Air Service.\ |
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4X1X9
Baiting Guru
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 5905
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:48 am |
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Coming off holiday and forgetting which lad is linked with which barrister/bank. Write out a 100 times I must make a list before I go.
When I don't bait as an American and foget to delete my K7 number from my signature line. |
_________________ I can sense tunes of unnecessary logic in your mails, meaning that you can never work with us to actualize this project no matter how we try to convince you - Mr. Chidi 0kpala
You will have to munch the statistics of the transfer so I can give to them - Mr. James Hessom Hessom
If not that you only hide behind computer and be playing prawns with us - Benny Clifford
France - Luxembourg
x26 - 2012 x258 - 2013
x263 - 2014 x160 - 2015
x204 & x1 - 2016
x177 - 2017 x81 - 2018
x85 - 2019 x9 -2020
(Grand Total 1,262) |
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FrumpyBB
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 5988
Location: Germany
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:43 am |
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Forgetting to mask or initialize crazy characters´ names (once only is enough for google to find it) Vide here and here and here |
_________________ SIR,I DON'T ENTERTAIN RIGMAROLE AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR DILLY- DALLY.
the ball is in your cult
x 5 ARK & Co. incl. 1 safari w/ RS17 & NTBS
Dan the lotto man, ARK mugu wedding
Dennis the hitman, co-bait w/ Murry Guru
Zake (w/ SH, SL & Craig)
x 5 Modeling Mugu Meeting, w/ mewing_ghecko & Otterfan & SSC
x 2 another MMM w/ SH
x 13 Later shows and trips for the benefit of M00seknuckle, incl. the 0budu Fact Finding Mission
Come to our Eater University Baiting Tutorials Cos you deserve it. x5 x50+ x 4 --
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windypops
Baiting Guru
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 6059
Location: Planet X
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:54 am |
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... Baiters don't make mistakes. It's always the lad's fault. |
_________________ "No amount of semen donation will save this situation" Sanny Sanny
"We must disagree to agree" Raji Musa
If it's LADS you want. GoTo: http://www.yopmail.com/
and sign in with either ladmail or kentbrockman
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Jerome
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 237
Location: Paris, France
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:59 am |
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Esq
Poster Boi
Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Posts: 684
Location: MHC6 HQ, Australia
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:14 am |
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i have my initial asem as my signature in gmail.
i had a good bait going and accidently hit reply, sending the asem to a lad that i had going for ages.
i was worried, but it was all good, he didnt even notice it. |
_________________ =Mr Thomas (MHC6 Lagos) Lagos - Contonou
=Mr James (MHC6 Lagos) Lagos - Contonou
= I knew that MHC6 is one of the wonders in the World,and all of us have to exprience it,and understand it - Okunlola O. Thomas FMHC6
I WAS AT THE NOVOTEL ORISHA HOTEL TILL 11 PM THAT DAY AND I WAS TOLD BY THE HOTEL STAFFS THAT I CAN NOT SPEND A NIGHT THERE AND I HAVE TO LEAVE AND WHENT TO THE NIGERIA EMBASSY THERE IN COTONOU TO STAY TILL THE FOLLOWING DAY AND I CALLED YOU THE FOLLOWING DAY AND YOU ASKED ME TO RETURN BACK TO NIGERIA WHICH I DID AND THAT HAS BEING MY WOST DAYS IN LIFE AS WAS EXPOSED TO A FULL TIME DIFFICITIES. - Augus5tine J4m35 |
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Scambo
Master Baiter
Joined: 09 Apr 2008
Posts: 114
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:57 am |
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A while back I accidentally sent a picture of a man having sex with a goat to my favourite pet. Fortunately I realised soon after this and emailed him from a new account to say that the previous account had been hacked. I still have him hooked now 5 months later. |
_________________ i will make sure that i f*ck that your ass hole untill you beg me for mercy - M4riam 5angere
the wite men f*ck your mother ass and you are happy about it - 4nth0ny 41iu
You stinking, little, brainless, and unsuccessful son of a bitch. May your cruel soul rest in perfect argony. -K3v1n Agul0
in the name of the gods of our mother land Africa l curse you son of slave
hi thank you for the insults you rained on me and my family
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Corona
Baiting Guru
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 8809
Location: On ya left!
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:14 am |
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I was with FrumpyBB there and we learned a lot from that bait.
irish was helping me with that bait, I did the cc thingy and scammer knew that I was forwarding all his mail to someone else. |
_________________
x? x?
Free Pastor Frank
An Eater's Sweetheart Safari |
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Reaper
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 0
Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:19 am |
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I think I've made more mistakes on this forum then in baiting.
A few baiting ones are:
Rushing and not thinking clearly before emailing.
Messing up with BCC and CC a few times.
Putting the wrong name when emailing scripts out
etc.
Most can easily be fixed with a quick excuse or blaming the lad. |
_________________ 110+
x15 x18 50+
Shola - 4.3k miles Lagos - Abidjan | Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos - Sokoto "i have not eaten anything except water"
Mr Floyd - Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos -N'Djamena --> Abeche, with RS (7 days in hell ) "we are dieing here"
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- I am the King of Rome, and above grammar
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iamthewalrus
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
Posts: 49
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:39 am |
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Mistake I made at first was being too eager in sending my replies. The one time I didn't bother for 24 hours, I had a desperate paranoid email from my "fiance". She and the barrister still expect to hear from me daily.
Next bait, I will definitely be more patient and try to lead the pace more. |
_________________ x2
Yes My doctor has tried adminstering porridge (Mrs Joy, cancer patient)
So don’t insist to discuss monetary issues with me (Barr Fred J0nes, lawyer with a heart) |
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mcstability
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 19 May 2008
Posts: 49
Location: Watching, waiting...
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:55 am |
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Well i only started my very first bait last night. He didnt reply very soon so i thought describing my poodle's "motions" in vivid detail may have put him off... but i got a reply today.
I'm baiting as Mrs Brady Old Lady (though with a different name) out of Viz. And i suspect my poor poodle's bottom troubles (not to mention constant references to my dead husband stanley, and how things where better in the war) may take precedence in future emails over sending the lad anything he actually wants to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs_Brady_the_Old_Lady |
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firehouse5
Palm Wino Aficionado
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 4953
Location: swimming in Ogogoro
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:09 pm |
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I have made loads and loads of mistakes over the years. here are some of my favourites and how they affected the bait:
* Signing an email with my real name (more than once, unfortunately)
- I killed the bait immediately, too risky since there are many mugus in my area. Now I try to put myself in the baiting character mentality first, and I don't use the same free mail services for any of my personal mail (visual cues help remind me that I'm baiting, not myself).
* Getting baits crossed (any number of times): signing the wrong baiting character name, or calling a mugu by the wrong name, or referring to the details of another deal.
- Kept right on going - almost all of these are easy to cover up. Actually referring to the wrong deal can be an advantage, you can actually reveal to one mugu that you have another deal working with another one. this can get you some really great "expose" about how the other deal is a scam. From this I learned that it can be fun to drop hints that I'm involved in some other scam deal, even if I'm not.
* Baiting character knows too much:
- any number of times I've tried to anticipate a scammer's moves, but often this leads to problems. for example, mentioning anything about fees to be paid before the scammer brings it up. Fees should come as a surprise to most baiting characters.
* Having a scammer call some silly phone number:
- in my very early days I did this a lot, either just give him a random number from a big corporation, or an organization that I thought deserved some abuse. I learned this is a dead end to most baits - it serves no purpose and causes all kinds of problems for keeping the bait going.
* Taking a photo of a scammer:
- again in my very early days: i went to a large tourist destination where many people are regularly taking photos, to take pictures of a scammer who was meeting some other baiter's character. I vaguely knew that meetings often include "minders" but did not realize that this particular meeting included two very burly, serious looking gentlemen, each lurking near one of the two main exits. I managed to take one or two long distance blurry photos (of something else with the mugu in the "background") but then noticed one of the minders watching people very closely. Including me. Never again!!
Oh, i forgot:
* Putting too much info in one email
- a classic problem with new baiters - telling your life story in the first email when a simple "I'm interested" type email will do the same job. This applies not only to the initial emails, but also any other time in a bait unless your lad has been taught to read every little thing. Most of the time now I try to follow a simple rule I created myself about the info I include in any reply: 1. thank him for his previous message. 2. apology for something. 3. compliant statement. 4. specific question or problem. 5. another compliant statement. (6, optional: one off-topic bit of conversation).
I've also learned that there is nothing wrong with writing big long emails to the lads, in fact sometimes I do this anyway just for my own amusement. See also "using funny names".
* planning the plot in advance
- Some baiters are very good at setting up specific milestones or plans for baits, so this might not be considered "a mistake". It is for me, because I am just no good at long term planning..... my long term plans seem doomed to fail. I'm much better at playing along and not worrying too much about where things are heading (except for certain things, like setting up legitimate reasons why i can't use the phone, or why I am away from the computer for weeks at a time, that sort of thing). |
_________________ Has a scammer sent you a bank account? please report it to any moderator using the private message function.
GO PREMIUM!
Oct2004-Oct2016 12 years but Cheat alert: many silent months!
dozens Not as many piggies as you.
The details you sent do not match, check your records and reply immediate. I have forced to wait in office for two hours with out eating
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Just Jane
Baiting Guru
Joined: 12 Apr 2008
Posts: 2380
Location: On my pirate ship
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:11 pm |
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I am really starting to see why you need a good plan(and experience) to stick to, so you can shepheard your lad into the required pen. |
What a good analogy! Very true, too.
I've done a lot of the same things as the other people have said here. One thing I did (and only realized it recently) is that my voice mail on my anonymous phone has my main character's name in the message. All my lads from all my characters have been calling that number. It's kind of funny that none of them have asked why a different name is in the recording. |
_________________ x 18 x 64
Winner of the Summer Challenge Prize August 2008
- St4nley's Xmax Adventure - I am suppose to be your Lover and not your house lad. - St4nley
Cotonou to Lome x2, Cotonou/Lagos/Abuja/Yankari, Cotonou/Parakou, Lagos/Maiduguri, Lagos/Douala, Dakar/Gambia/Keyes - Hector w/ team Hectard
Barack Obama Scammed - Benin-Lagos-Maiduguri 'Oh Shit' - Hon. M4rtins
Cotonou/Lome - D Brown
Hector Dr David O |
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Yastreb
Common Street Thawth Vergabon
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 17388
Location: Leading my wolf pack
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:14 pm |
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Twice I've sent the wrong document to a Lad; once I managed to wriggle out, but the other time I killed off a promising bait. |
_________________ Son of a bitch!!! Your dead!!! Everything about your stinking poor life is dead!!! Get off my way you son of a bitch mother ....a man without father bastard....your dead Ok
May you never se the end of the year, May you sick and die in JESUS NAME AMEN.
MARK MY WORD, YOU SHALL FALL SICK, IF YOU DONT PLEASE WITH ME, YOU SHALL DIE OF THE SICKNESS, THIS IS MY FINAL WORD TO YOU
I HAVE PLACED YOU UNDER MY ORACLE GODS,
YOU SHALL CRY AND BEG FOR FORGIVENESS OR YOU DIE
x5 x2 x 246
x 5 - Oyenka Chidinma Lagos-Cotonou; Dickyboi Lagos-Accra; Femmy Lagos-Porto Novo; "Woody" Accra-Singapore; Henry Philip Abuja-Natitingou w/MG & DSW
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U. Sir Name
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Posts: 76
Location: In My Own Face
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:16 pm |
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I have VERY serious patience issues. My baits will go on for 3-4weeks, and then I'll get bored with them and call the lads out. I think the general consensus here is to never burn a lad, but I do it all the time. I have issues. |
_________________ I understand your concern,if this process is legal or not.Right all i have to tell you is that this process is illegal - Paul Lockett
Please take note my name is DAKORU BAKARE and not Bukake
i got your ATM card and you come and bring your information and also pay your $95 charge and collect the God dam card ok.
ok sorry i got you message, and i going to go fuck myself as you said. thanks very much. |
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Mugatu
** Retired **
Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 3773
Location: The star of India
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:49 pm |
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atallman wrote: |
-Asking for a trophy picture on my first email....... Replying with anything longer then a paragraph....Thinking I must reply straight away....
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Yep, I've done all three of those when I started. And occasionally I still do the last one.
Additionally I get bored and wander off halfway through a bait to start a different one. |
_________________ - because you deserve them! x19
Thinking of using phone modalities? Attend the 419eater university on audio baiting.
"They made me to understand you are a Fraud Star" - Ikenna.
"I like traveling very much, it is so exciting and interesting to see foreign countries. but I have never been to foreign countries." - Marina.
"I will have you now I am highly reputable businness magnet." - Pam Doh
"Sorry,i do not know you are all that: a destitute and nuts" - Ben Chris |
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