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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:56 pm |
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bombardier wrote: |
If they did or didn't so what? the lad is responsible for his own actions therefore he would be responsible if he happened to get slotted in the process. |
Couldn't the scammer use the same form of logic for their victims? Aren't the victims responsible for their own actions? The scammer's aren't putting guns to their heads, and making them write checks. |
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Slightlyoutofit
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Feb 2007
Posts: 14310
Location: Foraging for Nuts.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:57 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
But when I have avenged a love one, I was not such a fool as to confuse vengeance with justice. |
Maybe you need to go and look up the dictionary definition of "Vengeance".
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infliction of injury, harm, humiliation, or the like, on a person by another who has been harmed by that person |
That sure as hell looks like handing out a form of justice to me.
As for trying to get the lads killed? That has nothing to do with the statement you made nor with my reply.
If you want to discuss the "Getting them killed" aspect then come out and say it. Don't hide behind wordplay and suddenly drag it up when you think you can gain a point. It's boring and not very clever. |
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God will see you true for all this you have done to me you bastard. - Collins Kalu
MAY THE HAND THAT TYPE ON KEYBORD BECOME STRICKEN AND TRANSMIT VIRUS TO YOU ENTIRE BODY. - Dr Linda Akeem
oh what a mess its time cabbage punks like u will be expose for trully what they are. - David Cole |
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N.O.R.A
Baiting Guru
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
Posts: 2358
Location: Enjoying all the love from Africa.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:58 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
bombardier wrote: |
If they did or didn't so what? the lad is responsible for his own actions therefore he would be responsible if he happened to get slotted in the process. |
Couldn't the scammer use the same form of logic for their victims? Aren't the victims responsible for their own actions? The scammer's aren't putting guns to their heads, and making them write checks. |
The victims are responsible. They pay the costs, you know. They are VICTIMS. They may suffer till the end of their life. |
_________________ "I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE,IT WILL DO A LOT OF WONDERS TO MY BODY" [Lad being baited since May 2009]
"Yes,Miss N0ra is a prostitute,a slut and a professional harlot." [Another Lad, being baited since May 2009, to one of my characters]
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"set him straight first on the pimple soaps and cleansers,then suggest the other..
we don't want a pimpley,less wrinkly botoxed man running loose" [SlapHappy]
My Mentor is a young, hot, sexy man or woman.
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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:02 pm |
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Okay, those guys are obviously violent criminals. However, I feel no sympathy for that victim what so ever. I think that person was incredibly foolish and stupid to have fallen for that scam, and to have flown to south africa. It was either greed, stupidity, or a combination of both, that got him to fly to SA in search of that pot of gold. Just as I think Adamu was a fool to travel to spitting distance from Darfur, I think this guy was a fool to go to travel to SA just because he got an email from a stranger. |
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bombardier
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:03 pm |
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Slightlyoutofit
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Feb 2007
Posts: 14310
Location: Foraging for Nuts.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:03 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
The scammer's aren't putting guns to their heads, and making them write checks. |
You're really out of your depth and displaying your ignorance again.
Some of the things the scammers do to their victims to get them to pay are far, far worse than having a gun put to their heads.
But hell, they even do that as well. Go and take a look at the Hitman scams. You really need educating before you put your foot in your mouth again. |
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God will see you true for all this you have done to me you bastard. - Collins Kalu
MAY THE HAND THAT TYPE ON KEYBORD BECOME STRICKEN AND TRANSMIT VIRUS TO YOU ENTIRE BODY. - Dr Linda Akeem
oh what a mess its time cabbage punks like u will be expose for trully what they are. - David Cole |
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Wurzgnubbel
419Eater is my life
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Posts: 441
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:08 pm |
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It seems like it all breaks down to the question if enjoying other people's suffering can, considering the circumstances, be "morally justifiable" or not.
And to the question if enjoying to see scammers suffer makes you a "sadist", an opinion which some of the baiters here gladly share while others don't. |
_________________ Now i know that you are nothing but a rouge, a killer, a resist, aback bitter, a lie, a tourt, a nornentity, a surscy human being. (Mister Larry Kent)
the test question here is still who is the bastard b@la h@ssan, so were did you change the test question, and there is no change in this slip, this is the first slip you sent to me, you are wasting my time and dont call me a bastard in your next mail. (Hitman B@la H@ssan)
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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:09 pm |
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Slightlyoutofit wrote: |
Go and take a look at the Hitman scams. |
A friend of mine actually got one of the hit man scam emails about a year ago. We both just laughed about it, because it was obviously absurd. |
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Slightlyoutofit
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Feb 2007
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:10 pm |
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^^ To you maybe.
But what about to the little old lady living on her own? |
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God will see you true for all this you have done to me you bastard. - Collins Kalu
MAY THE HAND THAT TYPE ON KEYBORD BECOME STRICKEN AND TRANSMIT VIRUS TO YOU ENTIRE BODY. - Dr Linda Akeem
oh what a mess its time cabbage punks like u will be expose for trully what they are. - David Cole |
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bombardier
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:11 pm |
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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:12 pm |
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Slightlyoutofit wrote: |
^^ To you maybe.
But what about to the little old lady living on her own? |
so being a little old lady robs you of your common sense? |
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SlapHappy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 9612
Location: Floating up and down with happiness.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:13 pm |
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Couldn't the scammer use the same form of logic for their victims? Aren't the victims responsible for their own actions? The scammer's aren't putting guns to their heads, and making them write checks. |
Difference? The scammers do not use the same logic. The victims are fooled by criminals. The scammers ARE putting guns to their heads, and pulling the trigger.
You have done no suggested reading by the members here, so go away.
My opinion of you stands. You are a sadistic, callous, asshole troll.
Jojo, loved the scene, very pretty. and the soups look good, too. |
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x10 X2 MM:Mikex2, JohnK, D@rlington, Ob1, Armstrong, Ismail, TG&Friend
x3 Nancy, Security Guy, Robert Accra-Tamale
(19 mo.) Tina and Joe's Safari - Accra to Niger & Timbucktu
Z@ke & Charlie -Wulugu Or Bust Safari- Lagos to Paga & Tokwari X2 - 3800mi.
x3 H3ctor & C@leb - Yankar1 & Parakou
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bombardier
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:14 pm |
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Slightlyoutofit
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Location: Foraging for Nuts.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:18 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
so being a little old lady robs you of your common sense? |
We can't all reach the lofty heights of intellectualism that you have, Sigmund.
You don't show a lack of empathy for the victims. You show a disdain. Big difference.
Maybe you need to revise the emotional side of your argument. |
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God will see you true for all this you have done to me you bastard. - Collins Kalu
MAY THE HAND THAT TYPE ON KEYBORD BECOME STRICKEN AND TRANSMIT VIRUS TO YOU ENTIRE BODY. - Dr Linda Akeem
oh what a mess its time cabbage punks like u will be expose for trully what they are. - David Cole |
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Tommo Shanter
Baiting Guru
Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 5378
Location: Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad. - Euripides
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:18 pm |
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@jojo
I think you breached the zero tolerance rule on religious discussion by posting that nativity scene picture. You really should know better. |
_________________ £1,052,334.30 (=US$2,121,125.60) lads fake cheques out of circulation (at 11/6/2008)
x135 (at 26/9/2008) x138
"i see your not interested in the transaction but catching your fun, calling names and my muckery of me." - Usman Bello
"You need to visit a good psychiatrist very fast, because some nuts are missing from your brain." - PROF.SOLUDO
"...it is very important you forward the your cycling proficiency certificate which by right belongs to you." - Prof Charles Soludo.
"note i can still change my mind to blow you off and whenever" - T0ny 'The Killerman' Erik
YOUR GENERATION WILL ROAST IN ABSTRACT POVERTY,BASTARD IDIOT -Daniel Mensah
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Professor So And So
Elite Baiter
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 1337
Location: Hash Conditions
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:20 pm |
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Ah, so the note in arabic was altruistic and benevolent. I understand now, thanks for clearing that up. |
You should have seen the one in French. |
_________________ - Ibrahim - Lagos - Parakou - "Find out if there is any western union money transfer from the 5imba camp"
- Mr. Green - Germany - Amsterdam, Holland - "I'll be in a brown check suit and trousers and a brown shoe."
- Mr. Mark - Accra - Tamale - "I thank you so much for the pain,time,money and life that you caused."
- Mr. Neill - London, England - Glasgow, Scotland - "Yu are really causing confusions between us all."
- William - Accra, Ghana - Maiduguri, Nigeria
- Miracle - Benin - N'Djamena, Chad - "Too much mosquitoes"
- Godspower - Ghana - N'Djamena, Chad
- Adamu - Lagos, Nigeria - Abeche, Chad (100 days in hell) - - "SAVE ME"
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SlapHappy
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Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 9612
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:21 pm |
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@Bombadier - I know you weren't talking about me.
only one moron in this thread, now. |
_________________ x Reven U., Fats Walla, Donny
x10 X2 MM:Mikex2, JohnK, D@rlington, Ob1, Armstrong, Ismail, TG&Friend
x3 Nancy, Security Guy, Robert Accra-Tamale
(19 mo.) Tina and Joe's Safari - Accra to Niger & Timbucktu
Z@ke & Charlie -Wulugu Or Bust Safari- Lagos to Paga & Tokwari X2 - 3800mi.
x3 H3ctor & C@leb - Yankar1 & Parakou
x2 Charles and Friend-Amsterdam to Vatican
Issac to Chad
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music man
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Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 14807
Location: East Harlemshire , yo!
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:21 pm |
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Where's a Mod when you need one? This thread is going nowhere. We already have an ethics thread etc and nothing that is said here will make one scintilla of a difference to Dirt, Jade and the rest of the "moral mazers". They have obviously wandered into the wrong forum.
Can i hear the sound of keys and a lock? Can i be the first to say IBTL?
Of course i might be wrong. In which case this thread should be on about page 25 when i get up for my brekky. |
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You will rot in jail.watch your back- any shadow could be mine ! YOU ARE VERY EASY TO TRACK IN YOU NEIGHBOURHOOD ! DRUNKARD AND A SCUMBAG LIKE YOU!
mike lawrence (cheque scammer)
Go fuck your dead parents asshole!!!How can a deaf fool make clean money..The money that you have will never be spent on anything reasonable.
So fuck off..dont reply me again until the cops get your stinking ass...
Lyord Melson- cheque scammer
$4.002million and £214K in fake cheques taken out of circulation. (updated May 2009)
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Edrondol
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:21 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
Slightlyoutofit wrote: |
^^ To you maybe.
But what about to the little old lady living on her own? |
so being a little old lady robs you of your common sense? |
No, but being lonely and isolated sometimes does. Plus, scammers know that the elderly are more prone to this sort of thing because (1) some of them are in declining mental health and (2) they are not from an age where people did stuff like this on such a large scale.
Remember that the elderly are largely internet novices who don't know the difference between spam and a legitimate email. Add in the fact that they have no clue what a spam filter is and you have a recipe for financial disaster.
You have raised some valid points, but your admitted lack of empathy has made you sort of a pariah on this board. Kinda like going into a biker bar and arguing that Harleys are pieces of crap. At least here you'll keep your teeth and only be answered in (mostly) educated discourse, but in either event it seems that you are guilty of not knowing your audience.
Or you're a troll.
Either way, nobody is going to take you seriously and your continued arguing is like my trying to get my wife to dress up in a schoolgirl uniform and call me "Professor" - an exercise in futility.
Oh, and IBL. |
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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:22 pm |
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SlapHappy wrote: |
The victims are fooled by criminals. The scammers ARE putting guns to their heads, and pulling the trigger.
My opinion of you stands. You are a sadistic, callous, asshole troll.
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No, no they really are not. The victims 100 percent have the choice to send checks, or to fly to south africa, or any other thing that they do. There are many reasons that they might chose to believe the scammers, to chose to cut a check, or buy a plain ticket, but it is still a choice, it is not armed robbery.
And your opinion is pretty spot on, really. I am a sadistic, callous asshole. |
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Ima Baeder
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:23 pm |
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Okay, those guys are obviously violent criminals. However, I feel no sympathy for that victim what so ever. |
I didn't ask you if you felt any sympathy. You already indicated that you didn't have that capacity. My point was that you said that scammer's targeted physical property, not people. They DO hurt people and not just take their money.
I'm glad that you and your friends can recognize a scam email. Please do help others you know who may not have this knowledge, so that we can prevent more victims.
Many victims are not necessarily in the United States or the UK and wouldn't recognize the same red flags as you. |
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bombardier
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:24 pm |
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jojobean
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:27 pm |
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DirtMcGirt wrote: |
I am a sadistic, callous asshole. |
How did you get a callous? |
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DirtMcGirt
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:29 pm |
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Edrondol wrote: |
You have raised some valid points, but your admitted lack of empathy has made you sort of a pariah on this board. but in either event it seems that you are guilty of not knowing your audience.
Or you're a troll.
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I'm probably just a troll. I just found the TAL broadcast to be interesting, and wanted to explore some of what I thought was interesting about it with the baiters. I find this sort of discussion to be interesting, some people find it anger inducing and distressing. Each to their own. I really don't care about how my audience views me, gaining acceptance from strangers isn't a high priority for me.
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trying to get my wife to dress up in a schoolgirl uniform and call me "Professor" - an exercise in futility.
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Silly rabbit, that's what prostitutes are for. |
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SlapHappy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 May 2006
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Location: Floating up and down with happiness.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:30 pm |
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And your opinion is pretty spot on, really. I am a sadistic, callous asshole. |
You forgot to add the "troll" part.
Mods? Remove the troll, please. |
_________________ x Reven U., Fats Walla, Donny
x10 X2 MM:Mikex2, JohnK, D@rlington, Ob1, Armstrong, Ismail, TG&Friend
x3 Nancy, Security Guy, Robert Accra-Tamale
(19 mo.) Tina and Joe's Safari - Accra to Niger & Timbucktu
Z@ke & Charlie -Wulugu Or Bust Safari- Lagos to Paga & Tokwari X2 - 3800mi.
x3 H3ctor & C@leb - Yankar1 & Parakou
x2 Charles and Friend-Amsterdam to Vatican
Issac to Chad
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