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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

Hi, my name's Paul. I am so happy I found this board. I didn't know anything like this existed. I'm now learning that there are even more websites and other boards out there too, all with the same idea of messing with these scammers and bringing awareness to the subject. How cool is that? I've been doing what you call "scam baiting" for years, and just learned today about this whole sub culture of it.

Wow, this is great! I just read this EPIC article on here at http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm . It doesn't get much better than that. I love the Frasier and Reservoir Dogs references.

Anyway, somebody pointed me in the direction of this site after I created this the other day:

http://www.moneygramscam.com - (Includes NSFW popup) It redirects to a personal site of mine, but I like the domain name.

The link has documented communication of me and a gentleman looking for computer work. Of course there was fake checks involved, and real money that is expected from me.

It's still in the works.... but I doubt he'll be going any farther. Any criticism or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:17 am

Welcome to Eater Paul.

First order of priority is to change your name in here, I've just done a quick google, I'm fairly sure you are 3 of the Paul **** in the first 25 results.

Contact a Mod (with the Green tags) to have your nic changed to something more anonymous.

Other than that, have a good read around, the *stickies* in each forum are required reading, there will be a test.

Eater University is a good resource to get you started as well.

Have fun, bait safe

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:35 am

Welcome to the Land of Make Believe

Making sure you are anonymous is first in your order of priorities, as death threats mentioning your personal address or details are worrying, ones addressed to some far away place that your fictional character lives, are hilarious - which is why we show them in our siggy lines (along with the most comical ones).

What we have here are lots of tools and tips and many good ideas, and even some dumb ones that work quite effectively too.

We are merely inventive liars with a strange sense of humour Very Happy

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:36 am

Hello Original Poster, and welcome to Eater... Very Happy

The golden rule of Eater is to remain anonymous, and I have sent you a PM to explain this and to offer to change your username.

BTW, we have an excellent mentor programme which you will be welcome to sign up for:
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122306&start=350

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:36 am

nice bait Original Poster ...just out of interest, what would you have done if the scammer had agreed to send you the money you were asking for the bail out ?

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

irishemigrant wrote:

First order of priority is to change your name in here, I've just done a quick google, I'm fairly sure you are 3 of the Paul **** in the first 25 results.
Have fun, bait safe

I sure appreciate your concern, but I lost my anonymity on the web years ago. I'm not too worried about that anymore. Anyway, I just wanted to post once and say hi. I won't be posting much, just lurking. Thanks a bunch for the links and the *stickies* to check out. Much appreciated. Take care - Very Happy

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

Simba wrote:

The golden rule of Eater is to remain anonymous, and I have sent you a PM to explain this and to offer to change your username.

Hi, just PM'd you back. Thanks for your help Smile

I'll check out that mentor programme...

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

GomerPyle wrote:

death threats ...addressed to ...your fictional character..are hilarious - which is why we show them in our siggy lines

haha I've been reading some of the signatures here. Just classic. I could stay reading on this site for days. I love this kind of ish

MOD SNIP: Tidying the quotes - Simba

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

spot wrote:

nice bait Original Poster ...just out of interest, what would you have done if the scammer had agreed to send you the money you were asking for the bail out ?

Thanks!

I guess if he would have sent me the money, you have to first look at reality to keep him baited. So, now I'm out of jail, thanks to his money. So, since I'm out of jail and promising him his money, I guess I would have to create a new type of dilemma. Usually in my emails to these guys, it leads to me having a huge drug problem or a crazy incident that involves the cops, possibly hookers and other vices my character possesses. It usually gets pretty ridiculous. I did tell him I was in Vegas... so maybe I could have gotten married to some random girl at the Black Jack tables with his money and then wanted him to be the best man?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:40 am

^^^^ fellow Members will now point out our policies about Cashbaitng.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

No need to quote from post directly above yours -- JMR

Yeah, so what's the appropriate thing to do if you get money from these people?

Also, my posting is now finished at www.moneygramscam.com . I just got a two word email stating, "f*ck you" from the scammer. I'm going to end it.... and that's why I wrote "The End" at the bottom Very Happy

BTW - Is there anything better than this one http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm , or something close that someone can recommend? You don't understand how much I love this stuff. By finding this site tonight I feel like I've been reunited with a left arm that I've been missing all these years.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:59 am

To quote directly from the 419Eater Rules:

Quote:

Baiting for cash:- PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
Due to the possible legal implications involved, but more importantly because the possible dangers posed to baiters, please note that the Administrators and Moderators of 419eater.com no longer permit any discussion relating to cash baits or methods of extracting money from scammers on this board. If you feel the need to discuss such matters then please do so either by this board's Private Messaging system or by email – but be advised, we do not sanction or encourage such discussions and will play no part in furtherance of cash-baiting.

Any public posts relating to cash baits, other methods relating to the extraction of money from scammers will be immediately locked or deleted.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

New posting for this, because it requires a new answer.

So, I ended my posting on www.moneygramscam.com because the scammer is not going along with it anymore.

I know this info is probably on this site here, but I want the info now hehe

After everything is exhausted..... Do I let the scammer in on the charade?

I chose to, and here is my email:

Well, it's come to an end. It's been fun. We've had laughs, and we've had tears. Maybe one day you'll wise up to the evil that you are doing and get a real job instead of having to scam people for a living. You're scamming real money, from real people, you are ruining lives. I hope you're not religious unless you are trying to go to hell, because that's where you will be... and you can count on that.

Enjoy my website I made for you!!!

http://www.moneygramscam.com

F*ck yourself and die in a fire.

-Paul

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Note: I'm religious, but that has nothing to do with anything I just posted. I'm only using that because most of these scammers come from places that are more Christian than the White House (imagine that!). Which, makes me wonder how all these god fearing Christians can participate in this type of con in the first place.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

Simba wrote:

Snip... Any public posts relating to cash baits, other methods relating to the extraction of money from scammers will be immediately locked or deleted.

Cool. I didn't really think he would send me the money, I was just goofing around. Though, it would be pretty epic to get some cash from these guys. I'd feel pretty guilty to do anything but donate it if this ever happened. Anyway, if I continue to post here in the future, I now know to keep this subject off the board. Thanks!

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:38 am

Don't even "burn" a lad or let him know you are tricking him. Even though by the looks of it he already knows you are a joker, burning a lad means educating him as to how to spot future baiters. Its best to let them stew in their madness and rebait them. Wink

Trophy Videos · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:40 pm

Welcome to eater! Very Happy

Here's another scambait that really got me laughing, if you want to read another good one.
http://www.419eater.com/html/user_subs/crusade/crusade-to-a-fetish-village.html

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18313

Hi there, Mr. Cole and welcome.

To answer your question, and as Ex already mentioned, we don't recommend telling the lad he was baited at the end. First of all, there's not necessarily an end until you say so. I have been baiting the same scammer since May 2007 and he's told me I'm not serious and to stop writing to him several times. I don't stop and he just can't help himself. I will never tell him that I'm not a legitimate victim (or several legitimate victims in this case).

When you tell them that you were messing with them, it educates them about baiters. We'd prefer they not learn this. Also, we have many tools here that we share. If you use those tools on a scammer and then burn him (tell him you were baiting), the tools are also implicated, which is not fair to their creators.

It's much much better to just leave the lad hanging, wondering what went wrong.

Keep reading here. You're right, there is tons of great stuff to read. Very Happy

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

SlapHappy wrote:

Welcome to eater! Very Happy

Here's another scambait that really got me laughing, if you want to read another good one.
http://www.419eater.com/html/user_subs/crusade/crusade-to-a-fetish-village.html

OMG, this is the funniest thing I've ever read. Thanks for the link. He got the scammers to bathe in honey, have milk poured over their heads, make up over a hundred photos, create and ship banners across the world plus even more great tasks for the young lad.... lol Good, it serves him right.

Though, I don't know if I'm dedicated enough to this to make up a fake church website to bait scammers. Wow, that's hardcore.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 10

Ima Baeder wrote:

To answer your question, and as Ex already mentioned, we don't recommend telling the lad he was baited at the end.

Thanks to you and Ex. for this information. Yeah, I've been reading a lot here and can see why there is no benefit in doing this. I guess the only reason I did this is because you have that temptation to let him in on the joke, just so he knows how much time and resources that were wasted. But, even then... to just let him stew in his own confusion and anger is even better.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:31 am

^^ and remember; it's always the lad's fault. The lad is always to blame.

Trophy Videos · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:02 pm

@Mr. Cole - Glad you liked our illustrious and mega-poster Mod's safari.
He is a very skilled baiter, and he always seems to find just the right lad. Very Happy

If you got a couple of days, come on over and read Rumbero's latest safari. Rumbero's "on vacation" or something, so I'm keeping the lad busy for him till he gets back. This bait has involved many baiters here, and is completely insane, and still going.... Cool

If you want to read the whole thing, and I recommend it for hilarity's sake, start back on the link in S1mb@'s thread.
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133248&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Another ongoing bait that is even nuttier than the above one is juju4u and Master and others' safari here. Their lad is very stupid and impulsive, and it's gets him in real deep trouble. Laughing

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=145107

And of course, The Wickedest Evil Safari... Laughing

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133890

Enjoy your time here! Very Happy