a scammer who isn't a scammer, repentant christian in need

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:11 pm

not sure where i pulled the address, but a search of the email address and you'll find his opening script.

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Dear Pastor, Brother and Sister,

How are you? I hope you are spiritually strong through Christ who strenghtens us. I am Evang. Ife@nyi 3mmanuel from The K1ngs Min1stries Im0 State.

I am a newly repented christian (been an ex prisoner) but through the revelation of the Holy Spirit I move into local gospel music to outreach the gospel with my confessions and testimonies to churches, comunities and beyond.

Ever since I started this project, satan seems to put hindrances arround my ways making it humanly impossible for me to accomplish the purpose, as my conscience troubles me to go and raise fund from old friends who are still in sinful deals, but believing God who makes all things possible, and been the aurthor and finisher of my faith (Heb.12:2). I have prayed to Him for help and it is led in my spirit to seek peoples assistance for finacial help.

The money I am charged for this project is quite big for me, but I persuaded that God can do all things, the amount is equivelent to US2500, I am requesting you to help me with any amount no matter how much you may donate, I will appreciate it more than you think.

Please even if you do not have to give, I need your encouragement and God will abundantly reward you.

Please Note that I send this letter to many other Men of God.

I dearly need your response

Disclaimer, not all things stated in my replies are beliefs held by me. I certainly do not want this to turn into a bible discussion. This is a scammer!

feel free to have a go at this turd.

he replied to our modeling grant ASEM with this;

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am not talking about doing business, but I think you are the right person, for in Christ we do not entertain modelling. It is sinful to naked just for money.

You are rich, why not you serve God now, by engage in other right and pleasing business to God. For what can it profit a man if he gets the whole world and loose his soul?

Remain Blessed

I figure what the heck, I'll play his little game and I reply

I find it odd that you preach to me about souls and God. A church does not ask where my money comes from when I give it. They take it without question and use it to better themselves.

I also find it funny that you state "It is sinful to naked just for money" and "For what can it profit a man if he gets the whole world and loose his soul".

You have not noticed the amounts of money a church wastes? They spend millions on a house of worship and leave the starving and homeless to fend for themselves.

Many religious teachings are based on hypocracy and lies. Do as we say, not as we do. You should spend more time looking through history, learning about the troubles religion has caused throughout the world instead of preaching to strangers on the internet.

J@ck

i thought for sure I would never hear from him again.. but as we all know, scammers are persistent lil buggers.

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In the name of God through Jesus Christ whom I serve, I need money but not to encourage sin. Yes many churches do not ask where money come from before they take, but God refused David to build house for Him just because David's hands were soiled with blood, which is sin.
If I need such money, I know what to do to get such money; I was a fraud star, a drug dealer, I repented not to by my power but by the power of God, so if I need such money I should go back to either dealing on Drug or 419 deal, but as I have been arrested by God, after meny years of warning, it should not be good for me to go back to it again because I will not only go to jail again, but I will run mad as these were the option that I got from God before I suffered the one I chosed.

I advise you to repent as you have made money now, never mind if God will allow you to still be wealthy, He will and give you a better business than this.

People build expensive Churches, yes ; but if it is the will of God, it is good, and it can never stop them from helping the poor.

You speak like; when judas iscarot asked that the alabaster box of oil should be sold and be given to the poor instead of pouring it on Jesus, and Jesus said to him; allow the woman to do what she is doing, for the poor will always remain on earth but Him (Jesus) will not. You see, Judas was not saying that because he liked to help the poor but because he loved money, which is why he was a treasurer.

I can only take money from people who will promise to repent and do it, else you have your money.

Bless you

hmm, lets see how far he will go.

You try to preach to me about my transgressions, yet you seek the thing that is the root of all evil, money?

It is sad that you have already judged me and you use the bible as an attempt to cover your sins.

As I stated previously, religion is filled with hypocrites and you have again shown are no different.

"Do not judge lest you be judged" Matthew 7:1

Therefore you are without excuse, every man of you who passes judgment, for in that you judge one another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. (Romans 2:1-2)

Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each mans praise will come to him from God. (1 Corinthians 4: 5)

For if you forgive men for there transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. "But if you do not forgive men, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions. (Matthew 6:14-15)

You know nothing of our business. Maybe our company only represents christian clients. But you are too filled with contempt and choose to place yourself above others.

perhaps you should look in the mirror and change yourself before you continue trying to change the world.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:51 pm

Interesting modalities, both his and yours. Kudos for tailoring your bait to fit his initial email. If you don't get him as a model, you may just overwhelm him with Bible quotes. Smile

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:00 pm

he's not really promising anything in return for your 'donation'. Maybe he is just an innocent internet begger?

Trophy Videos · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:37 am

@mg- could you pm me this boy's IP? I wanna see if it's who I think it may be....

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:00 pm

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Dear
You see where hold on, we always talk about judgement where there is correction and advice, yes bible says judge not ( LK 6:36+MT 7:1+ RM 14:13), there is a different between judgement, correction and advice. I only advised you, if you can go through my previuos mail, I said; "I advise you to repent as you have made money now, never mind if God will allow you to still be wealthy, He will and give you a better business than this"
Well you sound like a Christian indeed, but on your website, I saw what is enough to judge you if i'm to judge, but I never judge anyone, I can only advise and correct.After all Paul corrected Peter (GAL.2:11)
And please correct this; money is not the root of all evil, rather the love of money is the root of all evil (1TM 6:10).

I will pray to know who you are,

Let us be truthfull to each other than to put a stumbling block to ourseves. I would love it so much if you call me.

May God Bless you.

You seem to be quit knowledgable in your beliefs, unfortunately you seem to look at our business in lust. where as if i were to truly look at what we do, I would stand in awe at what your god has created.

you are sinful in your thoughts and to be honest, until you can see women without that lust, you are not a following the words that you quote.

To answer your question, I will not call you because i do not waste my time or money on deadend avenues.

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Dear J@ck,
Thanks and God bless you for your word, but to correct your impression of lust. I can never lust for what can never be my desire or food, but I count on what pleases God and what pleases devil. We al know the fruits of prostitutes, and in the kingdom of devil what is their nature, perhaps you know or have no knowledge about this.

Kingdom of dackness like nudity, prostitution, immoral sex, but in the Kingdom of God there morality, modesty in dressing and otherwise. 1TM 2:9

And each and every culture has it's appearance, Godly people have their appearance and worldly people have their appearance, which is why bible says; by their friuts you shall know them MT 7:20.

Well, I am quite convince in my spirit that you would be much useful for God, and God is much interested on you. You may not believe me now but when time comes you will believe.
I will like you to read your bible and pray all the time, even for your need. And tell me what you want God to do for you, but please do not ask me as was asked to Jesus Christ by His people "Doctor heal yourself", for one cannot scratch his back for himself. So I want your joy and faith in the Lord to be full, make a prayer request and I will do my part as the Lord directs me.

May God give you more wisdom and understanding about Him.

Ev@ng. lfe@nyi.

Mr Emm@nuel

Thank you again for your email I truly admire your commitment to your endeavor. I have already accepted the fact that I am indeed blessed. I have been given more money than i can spend in a lifetime, I have a big house with many expensive cars. I have given millions to charities and I am very happy with what I have done. All of this was done with hard work and sacrifice.

It is unfortunate that you chose to not be part of this blessing. If you are honest and hard working, the money i could give you would be far greater than you could ever imagin.

To settle your heart, my company does not nor will it allow any type of vulgar activities. We do not condone nudity or pornography. To be honest with you, I am offended that you reference "nudity, prostitution, immoral sex" when you refer to my company and the things we do.

be well

j@ck

this guy is kind of fun, a nice change from the usual.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:12 pm

this bait has the potential to become my new fav.

as anyone might have surmised from my av, religion cons are my current interest.

I have a theory that such scams might be the oldest con in man's entire history, pre-dating any kind of trade or commerce.

The promise of "soul saving" or "pie in the sky" after life leaves the victim feeling he actually RECIEVED what the scammer promised.

Trophy Videos · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:43 pm

This guy sure does like to see himself talk, and talk, and talk, Smile

I'm wondering when you will be able to get him to walk, walk, walk, to MG. Laughing

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:52 pm

What a wonderful week of charity lads & beggars!! I can't wait to help this guy!

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:47 pm

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Dear Jack
Thanks for your word, I'm sorry for my wrong impression over companies like yours. I have not been in such a business, I only wrongly thought it to be so.
Well, I so much like the way you appreciate the blessings of God in your life. But my brother, I am sure you are a Christian with such riches and blessing which God did not give to many people on this earth but few of you. I urge you to embrace Christ and worship Him with your wealth, I tell you my brother, God's Kingdom will be your inheritance as well.

I would like you to go close to your pastor or any man of God close to you, who is filled with Holy spirit, talk to him, he will help you more on what to do. I am in prayer for you, and I assure you that your friendship with Christ will make you more honorable and richer than you are, people will also call you BLESSED indeed; go through ISSAIAH 61:1-END, I tell you, the Spirit of God will be upon you if you embrace Him.

I am sure you did not comitte sin as I did in the past for money before I came to Christ, you may be righteous on your own but God wants us to have His own righteousness which comes through Jesus Christ, just as Cornelius in the Bible was righteous yet God asked him to receive His (God's) Righteousness which is in Christ Jesus by Peter ACTS 10:1.
I would love it so much if I should worship God with the wealth He gives me, I am sure everyone else loves it, and I am sure you will love it. This act cannot be called the love of money nor flesh nor the world because you love God with all you strength, with all you mind, with all your soul and with all your spirit, and in addition with all your wealth; what a wonderful testimony could it be on this earth and in Heaven.

Remember what I said earlier, I only need money to complete my project of audio recording (PREACHINGS AND SONGS) to enable me confess and testify God's works and messages in my local community as I'm led by the spirit, not to be rich with it. But to God be the glory if riches come. Hard working is mine by the grace of God, I can not speak about honest because in God is my honest through Christ Jesus.

May God leed you to His righteousness.

Ev@ng. Ife@nyi.

Emm@nual

I have become fond of our email exchanges and I must ask you this. What can i do for you? I am always looking for those deserving and willing to work hard for their beliefs. perhaps this is the break you need?

Please do not be afraid to ask me what is in your heart.

i would also like to ad that if you decided to become a member of our team, the possibilities for you would be endless.

sincerely

jack

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:48 pm

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Dear
I also enjoy discussing about God, mostly with people like you who has good and gifted understanding and wisdom. Because I had use some mistaking words yet you show your wisdom by the way you follow me and a young Christian.

If I am asked to state my needs, I would still make some mistakes but for now I need about USD2,500 to propagate the gospel of Christ through the audio recording. Please if possible, I need musical equipements which is also needed in the Church.

With your kind and Godly speach, I will like to be the member of your team. And please if there is any business you know that will be extended to Nigeria or Africa, my Pastor and I will be interested by the grace of God.

I would like to speak with you.

May God bless you and your Family.

Ev@ng. Ife@nyi Emm@nuel

hook set time to reel him in.

Emm@nual

If it is only the money you need I can surely send that to you. I also see that you are in need of musical equipment for the church, that also is not a problem. You only need to tell me what exactly you need and i will have it sent to you.

In your email you also stated you are interested in becoming a member of our team? I do not feel you are one that would be happy working at the level of an agent. I have discussed with one of my business partners, R@ndy 0ldm@n, and we have both agreed you are worthy of a managment position in our company. We are currently working with a few field agents in Africa and may need you to manage their work. We can discuss this position over the next few days and take care of any paperwork that needs to be completed.

Is this an acceptable offer?

J@ck

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:59 pm

I got this weird one...anyone seen one like this?

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I greet you in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ (Amen).

There lived a man. He almost died in the face of hardship. It came to a point that he almost committed suicide but suddenly, God Almighty sent help to him. The urgly situation in his life became a thing of the past. He became a wealthy man.

However, the rich man came across somebody with the same similar hardship he encountered. He had opportunity of helping the man with the wealth God Blessed him with but instead he ignored the man's situation. The man died.

Since then, the man has been living in guilt, blaming himself that he had opportunity to help but he turned his back.

With deep humility I come to you today.

I need your help.

Words are too few to describe my present situation. I have borrowed money to survive. I have sold my car, vertually all my properties to survive to the extent of selling my ring and my wife's wedding ring and engagement ring to survive.

Now there is nothing else to sell. I have been asked to quit the apartment am staying at the end of this Month due to lack of funds.

My wife gave birth Months ago. Two days later the baby did not make it. She lost a lot of blood during delivery. She needed blood transfussion but was neglected due to lack of funds. Infact I am confused this moment.

Please I beg of you In The Name Of The Lord. Help me. Nothing is too small. God Almighty The Creator Of Heaven And Earth will also reward you at the very point of your need (Amen).

Strange. Just simply replied with "That's terrible, what hospital were you at?" See what happens...

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:04 pm

tattoo him! NERV would do it.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:17 pm

@ yakuza. you are more than welcome to have a whack at him.

@ Ralph, I've been getting a few more begger emails recently. maybe it's the new trend?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:26 pm

Well, I'll see his response. If it's not a beggar, I think I might have the first member of Hon. Rev. Ph!l T. Sk@nqu3's congregation! Tw@T be praised!

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:24 pm

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Dear J@ck,
Thanks for your offer, it is ok. by me as long as it pleases God, which I'm convinced because all things work together for good to them that love God (ROMANS 8:2 Cool

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The items I need are guitar, piano, drums and speakers with microphone.

Here are my account details:
ACCOUNT NAME: EV@NG. IFE@NYI EMM@NUEL
ACCOUNT NO. 034011xxxxxxxx7088
INTERC0NTINENTAL BANK PLC
BANK R0AD, OW3RRI
NIGERIA

Meanwhile, I received a mail from R@ndy, He asked me what do I need, but I did not respond, for I think you will inform him about our discussions.

NB: Please my brother, do not forget to study the word of God, prayer and praises, for it is the will of God concerning us. And also confess Christ to your partners, friends and family.

Remain more blessed.

Ev@ng. I. Emm@nuel

Brother Emm@nuel

I have sent my secretary to the local music store to collect the instruments you listed below. I will have them shipped to you later today. Please clarify for me, 0werri, Nigeria is where you are? I should send the items there?

I have also had some thought about you joining our team, is this truly what you wish? I ask this because yesterday we had a new client contact us regarding a religious promotion in Nigeria and I had hoped you could help him with his needs.

We quoted him a price for our services of $76,o00.00 and he has accepted the amount. I know I have not discussed money with you, but if you were willing to join us, you would be paid the 15% commission that we pay all of our agents. This would mean we would send you $11,4oo.00 for your work on this.

Please tell me soon of your decision.

J@ck

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:55 pm

That should separate the men from the boys...

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