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pilgrim
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 May 2004
Posts: 1789
Location: In the colonies
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:23 pm |
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Since the repository of scammer emails at http://www.repository.izone.me.uk/ appears to have gone offline, I've been attempting to bait scammers posted here in the surplus letters forum by helpful baiters. But I've had several instances, too many, of my email replies being bounced for "no account". I realize this happens occasionally, but the frequency is simply too high for coincidence.
I suspect that someone with access to the surplus letters forum, probably with the best of intentions, is killing lad email accounts. Several years ago, I too killed lad accounts, but someone set me straight. Perhaps it's time for another reminder: killing a lad account does little to inconvenience the lad, since he can open a new account within minutes. But killing a lad account can and does spoil a bait. So please don't do it. Thank you. |
_________________ I know somebody in the wester union agent here, therefore i will not have any problem.
All the walfare of United States Citizen is my cosine.
x 140 x 45 x 2 x 9 x13 x 3 x 19 x 6 x 41 x 8 x 2 x 6 x 12 x 4 x 4 x 3 x 21 x 2 x 7 x 6 x 2 x 4 x 22 x 162+ |
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drew.p.coque
419Eater is my life
Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 383
Location: front, and low. lower!
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:39 pm |
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yep, mine have sent a auto generated reply.
was in mid chop too. |
_________________ *this deal is like a straw to a drowning man -chuck solodu
*Call me on my direct line so that we can talk for batter understanding-Aziz
*bank valued at USD 11.5M, left in account number:$286-41732-55
*THANKS FOR PLAYING WITH MY TIME, PLEASE KINDLY FORGET ABOUT THIS TRANSACTION
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mami
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
Posts: 657
Location: Usman Bello's Ex
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:42 pm |
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It's very easy for a lad to open a new account, however, not all lads are smart enough to keep a record of their baiters and victims' email addresses.... |
_________________ There's no such thing as a female with good looks who cooks and cleans. |
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Captain Pike
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 2579
Location: Starbase 11
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:50 pm |
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Unfortunately (for us baiters) there are people who think they are doing a public service by going out and killing as many lad accounts as possible.
Although their sentiments are in the right place, it doesn't occur to them that the lads will simply move on to new accounts and start over. |
_________________ x13 x5 (393 days)
"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.
"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007
"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007
As of 26 February 2009, $2,231,983.53 of fake checks and money orders have been intercepted and removed from circulation. |
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luckey
Moderator
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 5672
Location: Check the lost and found
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:56 pm |
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@mami: Maybe not the first time they lose a victim, but they certainly are the second time. Often they are in phone contact as well.
There are lots of good reasons for leaving boxes alone. They have been discussed here many, many times, but it never hurts to repeat my personal favorites:
When lads use the same email addresses for a length of time, they tend to get published on anti-scam sites such as this one. Victims can find them if they become skeptical of the deal they are involved in and do a little homework. Warning groups such as ScamWarners often rely on this as a means of convincing victims that they are involved in a scam.
However rarely, law enforcement investigations do occur. Closing boxes makes it much more difficult to track scammer gangs and find patters, and most importantly, evidence may well be lost.
Without question, it may be possible to spare a victim or two by closing boxes, but in my opinion, it does more harm than good. |
_________________ Moderator: \ˈmä-də-ˌrā-tər\: noun
A material which slows down neutrons after fission to speeds at which their probability for interaction with the fuel material is increased. |
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Gladesrunner
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 03 Jul 2008
Posts: 78
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:31 pm |
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Yes, same thing happened to one of my lads. Thought he might have twigged on me, but turns out his email address got shut down and it took him a couple of days to get a new one |
_________________ Rose/Samuel- Accra to Tamale (with OxygenDeprived)
Bank Accounts sent to Alan: 5
Stanley: "I told you i have no fucking money to call the Monster Mr. Glades. He is such a *DELETED* of a monster old dude."
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bearkat419
Baiting Guru
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 4445
Location: Houston, TX
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:00 pm |
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mami wrote: |
It's very easy for a lad to open a new account, however, not all lads are smart enough to keep a record of their baiters and victims' email addresses.... |
No, but fortunately for him, the victim - who really believes s/he is about to receive millions - probably kept his phone number. |
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Doodle Bug
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Posts: 720
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:10 pm |
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But killing a lad account can and does spoil a bait. So please don't do it. Thank you. |
There are many reasons for not Killing accounts, however People with the best of intentions are not going to be swayed with the “it spoils my bait argument” |
_________________ FUCK OFF. DONT CONTACT ME ANYMORE
you must tell the truth at least you supposed to tell me the truth.
i am not here to check or look for people piss in the streets of Abidjan
Who is this person Mickey Mouse???
trying to dercieve hoorable men like me. You are stupid man ok. |
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Nailgunner
Baiting Guru
Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 8727
Location: ̢̝̣̳̗ͅş̱̖̹͉̬̣̖h̷̗͉̘̱͍̗ͅr͉̙̖̥͡_̛i̦̞n̷͉͈̺̪̯̹E̸͎̫̭̞̙ͅ
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:03 pm |
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well at best it does nothing, at worst it clouds things and allows them even greater anonymity by foxing the efforts of urgentmessage.org and others.
and it ruins baits. |
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"I still have your name tattoo on me. No woman want me because of this"
"Baster ScamBaiter like you. just leave me alone, and delete my email from you least" |
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Roycropper
Baiting Guru
Joined: 14 Nov 2005
Posts: 7992
Location: Luxury Coffin
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:11 pm |
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A double edged sword, albeit a road we've been down many times before.
I'm forever answering promising formats, only for my carefully crafted reply to bounce.
Before I got into this, though, I'd angrily forward my latest lotto winning email to Yahoo, with a 'how the hell can you let them get away with opening a [email protected] email address?', expecting them to kill it. |
_________________ the European Union has bounced on our freckles
COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I WENT TO THE BANK
our Agent is Completely broke, pocketless and stranded
I WLL SEND AN AFRICA WITCH TO ATTACH YOU BASTARD
You go die like bird
i started shouting HALLELUJAGOBBLE but none of them notice me immediately police arrested me due to the shouting
f*ck u asshole ur damn mother will loose ur fcuking skull brain ur brain is nothing to compare with rat f*ck ur u
MY FRIEND ALEX WAS DETAINED IN POLICE STATION
I am not happy due to the question i answered at money office. Let me tell you do not play with me ok.
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Doodle Bug
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Posts: 720
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:19 pm |
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I'm forever answering promising formats, only for my carefully crafted reply to bounce |
Script bounced how sad what a shame
Edit to add:
In the it aint arf hot style
No need to post a reply to yourself minutes later. Feel free to use the lonely edit button. -luckey |
_________________ FUCK OFF. DONT CONTACT ME ANYMORE
you must tell the truth at least you supposed to tell me the truth.
i am not here to check or look for people piss in the streets of Abidjan
Who is this person Mickey Mouse???
trying to dercieve hoorable men like me. You are stupid man ok. |
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mewing_ghecko
lad harasser
Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1564
Location: I was born and raised in... oh look something shiny
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:52 pm |
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4 of my lads accounts, closed. one of the baits was going on 3+ months
my asem account disabled
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_________________ "nice try you want to spam my box asshole"
"fuck u and that of your company".
"ASSHOLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"FUCK YOU".
"I know person like you fucking scammer".
"FUCK YOU ASHOLE".
"fuck off" Mr Fr@nk Ch@ka
"You are nothing but a crook and a liar,how could you send a fake transfer receipt to me and think that you can fool me".
M00seknuckle co-bait Mrs ldris, Abidjan to Cotonou P3ter x2, Nigeria to Cotonou, Warri to Abuja
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bill2
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5495
Location: Yeah who can tell me where I am?
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:13 pm |
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It's all just part of the game, other people other games and your lad wasn't going to be your life long friend anyway One of the reasons I collect IP#'s, I can find my friends back, usually within a month they're back at their game and show up in surplus again.
I can imagine that some people, thinking doing the right thing, use the public surplus for killing email addy's, so have your lad make a special addy for you just to be sure that the transaction stays confidential at all times
An extra handicap in the game, just makes it more interesting to get to your goal. Sh!t happens, just be prepared or start over again. |
_________________ I don't do bling, I just do lads |
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Doodle Bug
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Posts: 720
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:07 pm |
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The worst we lose is a bait, not life saving's |
_________________ FUCK OFF. DONT CONTACT ME ANYMORE
you must tell the truth at least you supposed to tell me the truth.
i am not here to check or look for people piss in the streets of Abidjan
Who is this person Mickey Mouse???
trying to dercieve hoorable men like me. You are stupid man ok. |
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sheboppe
The Sparkly Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:09 pm |
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@Pilgrim - these folks might have a hand in killing your lad accounts. I'm not saying that they are responsible for yours, but go to their site and judge for yourself. |
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GomerPyle
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 8875
Location: Wherever I lay my hat
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:31 pm |
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I am a little suspicious that some of the mail providers may be trying to weed out scammers, though they seem more keen on closing my accounts than those belonging to Lads.
I opened a gmail account today and every mail I tried to send said it had been detected as potential spam. It was only a single test message with a simple hi.
... and gmail is very peculiar over attachments too. |
_________________ Fake sites killed 1 x 9 x 3 x 168 X
- the 'Asparagus Kid' - Accra to Lome - You Must surly Die in The Name Of Jesus Christ
- Steve - Lagos to Accra
- Frank - Lagos to Cotonou - co-bait with the vampire
- Shorty - Lagos to Cotonou - My Agro Base farming where i rearing chicken and other animals was set ablazed overnight and we do not know who is actual behinde all these evils! -
I and my crew was locked up for 3 good days….They wanted to charge us to court but later we are fined an huge amount of money…I asked them why did they arrest the men, they started laughing and saying all sorts mockering words! -
…because now, am left with nothing and remember i told you my Guy (Joe) gave up earlier this morning |
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reno419
Wannabe Baiter
Joined: 20 Jul 2008
Posts: 87
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:25 am |
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My catcher account is hotmail and a lot of the scam e-mails are indicated as not safe. I've been marking all the ones I've been getting as unsafe. I would assume this would only be a notice to potential victims and not the same as reporting or closing the accounts. Am I on the right track here? |
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Reaper
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 0
Location: Travelling in a fried-out combie. On a hippie trail, head full of zombie...
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:01 am |
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You're such a prick, Doodlebug. Way to crush Roy.
Yahoo loves closing lads accounts. Some people are just sick of the spam. |
_________________ 110+
x15 x18 50+
Shola - 4.3k miles Lagos - Abidjan | Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos - Sokoto "i have not eaten anything except water"
Mr Floyd - Lagos - N'Djamena, Chad | Lagos -N'Djamena --> Abeche, with RS (7 days in hell ) "we are dieing here"
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pilgrim
Elite Baiter
Joined: 19 May 2004
Posts: 1789
Location: In the colonies
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:01 pm |
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@sheboppe - I think you're correct. Looks very much to me as if these folks are the ones killing the surplus letter accounts. If I were part of this group (Heaven forbid!) the surplus letters forum would provide a rich source of scammer emails, especially since the repository has gone tango uniform (which causes me to wonder if there's a connection).
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1. We do close down the REPLY accounts and as quickly as possible - however these are only for the latest scams and wouldn't normally affect any ongoing baits you have on the go. As I'm sure you've noticed, the vast majority of scammers use a reply account in their emails to catch victims, however, after that, they then usually respond from a different account (a main account) which isn't quoted on their emails. |
If I'm trying to establish a bait, and I reply to the REPLY account only to find out too late it's been shut down, there is no bait. And since the lad has never heard of me, he doesn't have my email addy in a safe cache somewhere.
Bummer! |
_________________ I know somebody in the wester union agent here, therefore i will not have any problem.
All the walfare of United States Citizen is my cosine.
x 140 x 45 x 2 x 9 x13 x 3 x 19 x 6 x 41 x 8 x 2 x 6 x 12 x 4 x 4 x 3 x 21 x 2 x 7 x 6 x 2 x 4 x 22 x 162+ |
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sheboppe
The Sparkly Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:51 pm |
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^^ We had quite a debate with them about closing lad accounts, but it was like arguing with a stop sign. They are determined that they are right no matter what so it's pretty pointless to even try to get them to see that they really aren't doing a good deed like they think they are. |
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Doodle Bug
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Posts: 720
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:11 pm |
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You're such a prick, Doodlebug |
From you Reaper praise indeed |
_________________ FUCK OFF. DONT CONTACT ME ANYMORE
you must tell the truth at least you supposed to tell me the truth.
i am not here to check or look for people piss in the streets of Abidjan
Who is this person Mickey Mouse???
trying to dercieve hoorable men like me. You are stupid man ok. |
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Hoss
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Posts: 20
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:12 pm |
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Start by cutting off access to the surplus forum to those who use it to shut down accounts. |
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sheboppe
The Sparkly Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 5002
Location: United States
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:25 pm |
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^^ That is not something that we wish to do. Surplus is not behind a login so anyone has access to it. Blocking that access would be counterproductive. |
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wanamaker
Master Baiter
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 146
Location: van, down by the river
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:31 pm |
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In the last 4 weeks I have lost all my baits about 8, I pulled them all from surplus. Varying stages. Can someone Pm me some not so public lads? |
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Hoss
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Posts: 20
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:40 pm |
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I'm not baiting (yet?) so I have no horse in this race. Its just that the consensus of this forum seems to be that accounts shouldn't be shut down. According to the posts in that other thread referenced above the folks doing this don't care about that consensus, so why not prevent them from using this site to kill addresses? |
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