I think i've been scammed :(

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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 13

Here's how it started, i was sat at work looking for a new job and i sent my CV to a recomended agency who have a flashy website so i thought why not?
I sent them my address and low and behold the nxt day a £5000 cheque arrives, i am asked to get it cashed (which it is still doing) and then to have the funds sent to :-

Name: OLIYIDE O. DIPO

Address: 1-5 MEKAN WAY AKASI, NICOSIA CYPRUS.

This is from a company where the person replying is a Sarah Remington.

Please help and advise me what to do.

Many thanx newbie

Not quite a Newb Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 51

If you haven't already, do not send them any money. I'm assuming that they have your real life information, in which case you should cease contact with them immediately. Tell them you've already accepted another job, or something, then let them drop you.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:05 am

Hi, welcome and enjoy the stickies.

This is a common cheque scam, the check id fake or stolen, they are trying to use you to cash it for them - you send them the money before the cheque comes back as fake - dropping YOU in the brown stuff.

The people you are dealing with won't be at that address, the name looks Nigerian - it will be a 'borrowed' ID that can be used down the local western Union office.

You can't bait these guys, they have your real ID, just ignore them . If they ring put down the 'phone. If they email put them in your spam filter.

destroy the cheque, or mark it 'FAKE' and put it on your wall.

Find someone similar in the Surplus forum, and give them hell using another email account. Plenty of info on here on how to do that safely.

Baiting Guru Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 11857 Location: UK

I assume from your post that you have already deposited the check and are waiting for it to clear?

If so, contact your bank and inform them you believe you have deposited a fake or stolen cheque, don't wait for the bank to tell you about that.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 13

Thanks everyone, ill give the bank a call and let them know.
Now i really want to scambait these little SOB's how is the best way of going about this?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:51 am

Spiritual:

Do not do it from the real life e-mail and other information the lads have on you. Read the stickies around here and ask for a mentor. There is loads of basic information on how to bait these lads.

DO NOT do it from your real life information.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:30 pm

@spiritual...

Also, please post the website you responded to if you believe that's where the cheque originated. We have some Copperfields around here that can make scammy websites disappear.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:38 pm

I think I found the scam

Quote:

Hello,

I am Mr. Taylor Warren, the International Recruiting officer for Havoc Consultancy Group;
I am offering you a Job offer with our establishment that deals in the Import and export of Cocoa butter cream,
Rubber, Cotton, textiles and fabric materials which is based in the United States.

We are looking for a trustworthy representative in the United Kingdom on behalf of Havoc Consultancy Group that
will aid as a link between our company (Havoc Consultancy Group) and our customers in Europe for getting and remitting payments.

I would like to know if you are interested, respond only if you will like to work from home (part-time) and get paid weekly
without leaving or affecting your present job.

(PAY IS GOOD) if you are interested, forward the following information to Mrs. Sarah Remington the Recruiting offer of
Havoc Consultancy Group to the email address below:
[email protected]

FULL NAME:
PHONE NUMBER (S):
GENDER:
D.O.B (applicants should be 18 and above):
IDENTIFICATION HELD:

We would be expecting your email ASAP if you are interested to know more about your prospective job with
Havoc Consultancy Group.

Contract of Employment will be forward as soon as you are appointed as our representative.
NOTE: Forward your replies to Mrs. Sarah Remington.

Regards.

Taylor Warren
International Recruitment Department
Havoc Consultancy Group

It's on scamwarners.com too

LINK

I can't find a website. It just appears to be forum spammed all over the place.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 13

yea thats the letter/email that i replied to, the first company and the subsequent acceptance letter

To: Mr/Mrs/MissTo: Miss* ABC
Address: CBA,
ABC
CBA

Dear ABC,

Ref: Notification of Appointment

We have pleasure in confirming your appointment as a member of our United Kingdom
representative for our company [b]Havoc Consultancy Group situated 689 Charleston
Street, Chicago IL 60657. [b]
Your employment will commence with immediate effect at the rate of 10% of each
payment received from our customers. Payments will depend on how fast and effective
you are in cashing and remitting the funds to us. Because of operationally requirement,
payments can be in any currency but we will try our best to make sure that payments
coming from our customers are of your country’s local currency.

Your wages should be deducted before sending us our 90% after you must have deducted
the 10% which you are entitled to.

The terms governing your appointment must be read and well understood, it’s the e-mail
from us explaining your role as our representative. We cannot guarantee weekly payment
as it all depends on how effective you cash and remit pending payments.

“Note that this is a temporary Notification of appointment; we have placed you on
3months probationary period in which we will confirm your Permanent Employment
after 3 months, a contract of employment will then be sent to you in which your
signature will be required.”

Kindly keep this document for your record; we are delighted to welcome you to our
company.

Employee’s Signature ………………….. Date: 21/06/2008

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 13

I have been in contact with this wanker for a few days and he has been insisting that i send the money (once cleared) via money gram, what eva this is. I keep telling him that i dont want to be walking round with that kinda money on me and that i want to see his website this is the responce i get back
Hi ABC,

As i stated in previous e-mails, our website is currently inactive and we will send you our web link as soon as it is active and working correctly.

Secondly, we will not send you payments more than £7000.00 and in this case, we will make arrangements for an account where funds can be paid to.

For anymore queries, do not hesitate to contact me.

Sarah Remington.

any other ideas so i can string him along as much as he has done to me?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:11 pm

Even if the money appears on your account, don't touch it spiritualhealer. It's either stolen funds or posted as uncleared.

It depends whether the cheque is forged or a complete fake. Even if you wait a week or a month, and it is then returned unpaid after that time you will be charged back, and if it appears you made use of the funds, you could be prosecuted.

That's why it's best to tell your bank before they tell you. That way you can demonstrate that you are an innocent 'potential' victim and not a criminal associate. Do that and the worst you are likely to suffer is a charge for a bounced cheque.

It's quite a common fraud and worse because you not only lose money but can also end up in trouble with the law.

Baiting Guru Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 2922

@spiritualhealer-Reading your post (two above mine)-it appears that you are still in contact with him using your real life details.

STOP ALL CONTACT AND WALK AWAY

Tell him the bank told you it is a fake cheque and then ignore him. If he emails-file it in the trash, if he calls-ignore it. If he keeps calling or emailing you change your email address and/or cellphone number. If he threatens you with legal troubles, the FBI the EFCC or any other agency or govt dept it is all BS-and designed to scare you into paying him your money.

Well done though for speaking to the bank first-that's a lot better than them calling you in for a 'chat'.

As for what you can do now.

Go and sign up for a fastmail account or gmail or hushmail-they all hide your IP, using ALL FAKE DETAILS in no way connected to any part of your real life. Then come back here and sign up for a mentor whilst waiting for Cherrie to 'hook you up' read this little lot. Have a wander round the forums paying close attention to the top of the threads marked Sticky.

Oh and kiss goodbye to a social life... Very Happy

Baiting Guru Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 5727

To expand on what gomer said:

I don't know where you're located, but in the United States Federal Banking laws require that the funds for any deposit be made available to you at a maximum of five business days. This doesn't mean that the check has cleared though. Many people make the mistake of looking in their bank account, seeing that the funds are available, and assuming that the check has cleared. It could take weeks, or even months, for that check to run it's course through the banking system and come back as bad. When that happens, you are on the hook, and you are screwed.

Don't play with this guy. If you have to, tell him that you found out that the check is a bad check, and you have turned it over to the authorities.

Time is the key element here. The scammer will hound and harass you to get the money, as he's up against the clock. He has until the check bounces.

As was pointed out earlier, notify the bank immediately and tell them what is going on. Tell them about the scam, and that you now realize that the check is a bad check. You have (unwittingly) commited a crime in passing bad paper. If you tell the bank right now about it odds are about 100% that they will remove the funds from your account and you won't be in any trouble. The longer you wait the worse it will be.

Yes, some of these bad check lads have the resources to make up some very good web sites that look very professional. Just be thankful that you caught this before it came back and bit you in the butt.

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