First bait *updated!* Lame phone call + Now Panic!

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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:23 am

I started this bait before I left on a road trip back, from where I was working, to my home.

Email I sent.

Quote:

Lim Dul to johnsiviya
show details 1:04 AM (22 hours ago) Reply
fromLim Dul <[email protected]>
[email protected]

dateFri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:04 AM
subjectA recent email.
mailed-bygmail.com
hide details 1:04 AM (22 hours ago) Reply

wow!

Interesting, thank you. Would you please send more info?
Lim Dul

I got this email this morning.

Quote:

dateFri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:37 AM
subjectURGENT REPLY(+xxxxxxxxx).
mailed-byyahoo.com
signed-byyahoo.com
hide details 6:37 AM (16 hours ago) Reply
Images are not displayed.
Display images below - Always display images from [email protected]
Dear Lim Dul ,

Good Day,
I received your mail regarding the Cashier Bank Draft that my Director left here for you, Yes, He told me to keep the Cashier Bank Draft for you before he traveled out of this country for investment projects.

Now that you have contact for the Bank Draft i have one question for you, Are you coming to pick it here by yourself ? Or do you want me to send it to you through an courier company ? Incase if you can not come by yourself, send your full contactinformation to me again to enable me register for delivering.below

YOUR, FULL NAME....................
YOUR, COUNTRY.......................
YOUR, HOME ADDRESS:..................
YOUR, OCCUPATION.....................
HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER:.................
OFFICE TELEPHONE NUMBER:................

Send the information immediately if you can not come down here in person I will meet the Courier Service Company today to confirm what it will cost to deliver the parcel to you. am Awaiting for your reply,

Thanks Sincerely
Mr.John Siviya
+xxxxxxxxxx

I want to try and make him think that I'm going to have 30 armed men meet him, but I don't know how I should build up to that.

Sidenote: how do I get headers out of gmail?

Other sidenote: ++points to who figures out the name I'm using. (shouldn't take long with google...)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:01 am

I sent him this.

Quote:

Please understand the lateness of my replies. I am extremely busy with my work.

Name: Lim Dul
Company: Leshrac and Szat INC.
Home: Tesserhorn
Country: Kjeld

I seem to have misplaced my phone numbers at this exact moment. So I cannot provide them.
We will have to keep this to email for the time being.
As for picking it up myself, or via a courier company, I will let you decide as I must get back to my business at hand.

sincerly,
Lim Dul

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:22 am

To get the header in gmail: open the message; at the right top, click the down arrow next to "Reply"; click "Show original"

You are off to a good start. There is no right or wrong way to do a bait.

My one suggestion is figure out now what do you hope to accomplish once you have him convinced about the 30 armed men. What will you ask him to do that will irritate him, cost him time and money or significantly inconvenience him? Figure it out and work your bait in that direction, building the story as required.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:27 am

Well I'm giving him the choice of which way. I don't doubt the courier will require some kind of s3cur3 transfer....who do we know could do that?

Also I just noticed that wasnt a ASEM modality he was using. There was supposed to be a previous set up email that didn't get posted along with the surplus. Very Happy

I'll have to use that to add confusion.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:30 am

Here is the header from his reply.

Quote:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.103.178.3 with SMTP id f3cs8964mup;
Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.141.176.13 with SMTP id d13mr1601453rvp.196.1212748630613;
Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.51])
by mx.google.com with SMTP id f21si7019044rvb.0.2008.06.06.03.37.08;
Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 98.136.44.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.136.44.51;
[email protected]
Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2008 10:37:08 -0000
Received: from [69.147.65.154] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2008 10:37:08 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2008 10:37:08 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: [email protected]
Received: (qmail 16822 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2008 10:37:08 -0000
Received: from [81.91.227.14] by web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:37:08 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: xxxxxxxx <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: URGENT REPLY(+229-934-111-51).
To: Lim Dul <[email protected]>
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-832169407-1212748628=:98383"
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I tried to remove what I noticed other people remove. I don't know what 95% of this stuff is though.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:38 am

I get Benin, his phone number confirms it.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 42

ip2location.com/emailtracer.aspx says Lagos?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:34 am

My 11 year old son says your name is from Magic the gathering or some such thing... is he correct

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:43 am

^ yes, yes he is correct.

Lim's actually a necromancer. Very Happy

(did I say 30 armed MEN? Twisted Evil

)

Btw, anyone driving north. Don't go to indiana. Unless you like state wide swimming pools. Seriously. Then I FINALLY get home to what? No reply from john. But the zebra girl has my other Magic the gathering related request for a cheap 800!

side note: do I get anything for doing a bait while driving 2000 miles? Yes...? no? Confused

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:02 pm

Welcome to the active-baiter fold! Cool

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:42 pm

So I got a WU request

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

How are you? i hope fine, i received your message and the content was well noted. To avoid any delaying, below is information where you will send the sum of $115.00 to enable courier company deliver your Bank Draft to you.

informations where you will send the fee through western union.

Receiver's Name...........John Mocha
Country Name............Benin Republic
State..........................Cotonou
Postal Code.............00229
Text Question.........A
Text Answer..............B

Thanks sincerely yours
Mr.John Siviya
+xxxxxxxxx

Anyone know how to send a photo that they cant trace?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:08 pm

I sent this replay.

Quote:

Lim Dul to johnsiviya

How can you be asking for the fee when you havn't told me which company you are using to send it? Also If you would not mind sending a photo or identification scan for my business contacts list. I always like to see who I am working with incase I have....future business with them.

Lim Dul

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:31 pm

Edited the whole thing for emails and numbers.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:14 pm

I think he's gone. But no worries! I sent out more seeds!

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:55 pm

A few days ago John decided to come back! Laughing

Joy of joys! Now I can get to paying him...or wait. Did I just make him FORGET money?

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul ,

Below is the information of courier company in our country

1. U.P.S

2. TOP CHRONO

3.FXDEX COURIER

These are my findings, therefore you are to choose any of this option above for the delivering of your draft but just be rest assured that your draft will be delivered safely. This are well known and efficient courier company here in Benin .

I wait to receive the payment information to enable us proceed.

Evangelist : John Siviya

Sniff

He didn't forget me. Twisted Evil

My reply of course

Quote:

Thank you for the reply. I have been waiting for it to arrive for several days now.

I have a question. Which of these companies will you be using? I remember saying that I wanted you to decide on all these tiny details. I still leave it up to you to choose which company to go with. Or if you prefer other methods that we could use to arrange the transfer?

I do hope your next email is a little sooner than this one was. My business is starting to get hectic lately so we must hurry if we are to conclude business soon. I would like all these small money matters cleared up quickly.

But what is this?! back to hide n go seek? My email to him

Quote:

You've seem to have vanished?

Then 4 days later I get this. With the subject : STOP DELAYING

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

How are you? i hope fine, i received your message and the content was well noted,there all good companies,just choose one and let us proceed.

Thanks sincerely yours
Mr.John Siviya

Nice polite but.....Bad mugu..BAD LAD Evil or Very Mad

Quote:

How dare you claim that I am delaying this You are the one delaying this process. I wait for days for an email that only tells me that you don't know how you want to complete our business. I ask for what company you are using, and instead I get a list of several. Then you ask me to pick one when twice I have told you to handle such logistics as is correct for our transaction. Then I wait days again before you tell me that I am delaying? I think, sir, that you have a very mistaken image of what is going on here. You are the one that is supposed to arrange how it gets here.

Email me again with the information after you have selected the best courier. YOU stop delaying. I will have to decline your business if you continue to keep with such long delays from when I hear from you next.

Lim Dul

Whoops he better back down and get together! Tomorrow was a new day and a new mail!

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

How are you?i hope fine,i received your message and the content was well noted,OK
LET US USE FEDEX COUREIR SERVICE COMPANY, to aviod delay send the delivery charge which is $115 to enable the company deliver your cheque to you

Thanks
John Siviya

Oh dear. We wanted to speed things up I thought?

Quote:

John

Thank you for the prompt reply. Fedex is a good choice. I will send the fee directly to Fedex to speed up the process.

Lim Dul

Uh oh!

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

It's like you don't understood me please i need your phone number to call you.

Thanks John siviya

Don't you remember? I misplaced it. Oh well have THIS one.

Quote:

John

What are you talking about? I am sending the fee to Fedex to enable you to send the evelope. Is this not what we agreed?

If you really must have a phone number I will have to give you one of my corporate branch numbers. It is in the United States, so the phone service should be good, and the fees will be much cheaper than calling Klejd which I believe is almost a dollar a minute. The people there will take the message, and I will be able to receive it.
If no one is watching the phone just leave a voice message. I can receive that remotely from my office here in Klejd, but it will cost me international fees. Don't worry it is much cheaper to call out of Klejd than into.

xxx-xxx-xxxx

Lim dul

I know he wont read all that. His head would fry.

Quote:

HELLO

PLEASE CALL ME +xxx-xxxxxxxxx

JOHN SIVIYA

Quote:

HELLO

THERE'S A MESSAGE IN FIRST NUMBER HERE IS MY NUMBER

I TOLD you to LEAVE a message if no one answer.... Evil or Very Mad

Quote:

john

What are you going on about. You wanted to call me and I provided a number that we both can easily use. Now you want me to call you. I simply havn't got the time for extra calling.

If you got a recording when you called that number then leave a message. I can recieve the voicemail messages at any time of day or night. Now please Stop Delaying. You're the one that wanted to speed things up. I still don't see what is wrong with sending the fee to Fedex. I'll check their prices. Maybe it's not enough money.

Lim Dul

Can't believe he forgot ALL about the money and just wanted a phone call. Evil or Very Mad

You're slowing down the process of getting paid! Twisted Evil

But what is this? No phone call and no Email? But he was so prompt for three days?! I couldn't have slapped him to hard could I?

Wonder if THIS will do the trick of lighting a fire under his cafe chair.

Quote:

John

I received a phone message early this morning, on the line I gave to you, from someone claiming to be a Fedex courier agent named Mr. G0m3r. He informed me that the original fee of $115 is not enough and suggested that for such a transaction I needed to send him $1000 dollars. He then said that their might be more in legal fees.

This does seem to be the answer to the problem we are having? Since you have not called I have no idea if you think it will solve the problem. Email me back quickly please. I shall try to check my mail often today.

Lim Dul

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:47 pm

May I suggest not responding for a few days, then replying with...

"Sorry I have not responded for a few days, I have been very busy with work, I just closed an 74,000$USD Deal with this investor on my company... have I told you about what I do for a living"

This might set you up for the lad working for you, if you don't veer it off topic soon(ish) then he might drop you...

Not all, but some lads get tired of 5+ email excuses about the money... so see if you can get him out of his comfort zone and into yours... as you are very busy at the moment!

hope this helps

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:02 pm

I'm trying to think how I can work in Lim's line of work. I took the name from the card game Magic the gathering. Where the character Lim Dul is a evil necromancer bent on destroying the world.

So now I made him a corporate man, thats still a undead summoner of the damned.

I have to ease that in gently. I'm thinking of having him get fed up and maybe turning this into a safari based on the Lad's terms. I've got to think up some fun side characters though!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:30 pm

Okay! update time! John likes to vanish for a about three days after emailing for three days. We're talking lah aye zeeeeeeee moooo gooooo.

I got two emails after the Mr. G0m3r mail. First this one under the subject :Send money informations PLEASE

Quote:

Attention:Lim Dul

This is to notify you that your message has been received, I apologize for the late reply,

I real don't understood how did you mean ,what is going on? It seems like you are not Lim Dul the real owner of this email address and package.

Please if you are not the owner of this email address be kind to tell Lim Dul the owner of this email address to contact me for the delivery of his bank draft, FOR YOUR INFORMATION YOUR BANK DRAFT STILL WITH ME, THE FEDEX COURIER COMPANY REQUEST FOR THE DELIVERY CHARGE WHICH IS SUM OF $115.00 BEFORE I CAN SUMMIT YOUR PACKAGE TO THEM FOR DELIVERY.

I WAIT TO RECEIVE THE PAYMENT INFORMATION

THANKS VERY MUCH

JOHN SIVIYA

about 5 minutes later he realizes he forgot something (WU info) and sends that long with the same subject. All of this I reply with.

Quote:

You have been gone for a while John. Where did you go? I can't keep holding up my own business when you keep vanishing. First you want a telephone number, and then you vanish. Then that Fedex man Mr.G0m3r calls me on the number I gave you and said that I can pay the fee for the fedex delievery through him. Only he said the amount was to low. He said it would have to be $1000 to cover shipping, care, export fees, taxes, and variou legal matters. It seems like you have talked to this Mr.G0m3r since he told me things that only you should know.

Now you're telling me the fee is $115. That seems quite low for getting to my country. We are far far to the North and as such postage is expensive for incoming packages. Do you think I should contact Mr. G0m3r about getting a receipt for the fees he is asking for?

Lim Dul

I got this email the next morning with the subject: WHAT IS GOING ON?

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

What is going on? i real don't understood how you mean,who the hell is Mr.G0mer?
Please i don't know this man,FOR YOUR INFORMATION YOUR PACKAGE STILL WITH ME NOT WITH FEDEX , BECAUSE FEDEX COUREIR SERVICE COMPANY HERE IN MY COUNTRY REQUEST THE DELIVERY CHARGE FIRST BEFORE I CAN DEPOSIT YOUR PACKAGE TO THEIR COMPANY, WHICH IS SUM OF $115.00

SO, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL IS MR.G0M3R

I WAIT TO RECEIVE THE PAYMENT INFORMATION

THANKS
JOHN SIVIYA

Why he is the guy who just chopped a Grand from you johnny!

Quote:

I just sent Fedex the $1000 dollars for my shipping fees. Now you say they never had my package? Just what is going on? I shall call them back immediately. I still have time before my next business meeting at the company necropolis. Please inform me as to what is going on. I will promptly check my email after the meeting.

Lim Dul

Whoops..did I make a mistake? Twisted Evil

I got this in my inbox today just an hour ago. With the subject CALL ME +xxxxxxxxxx

Quote:

LOOK I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT YOUR PACKAGE IS WITH FEDEX OK, I TOLD YOU THAT THE FEDEX COUREIR COMPANY REQUEST THAT YOU MUST PAY THE DELIVERY CHARGE WHICH IS THE SUM OF $1150 FIRST BEFORE I CAN DEPOSIT YOUR PACKAGE TO THEIR COMPANY .
AND I EMAIL YOU AND TOLD YOU WHAT THE COMPANY SAID AND HOW TO SEND THE MONEY, TO ENABLE ME DEPOSIT YOUR CHEQUE WHICH IS PACKAGE TO THE FEDEX COUREIR COMPANY FOR DELIVERY

I SHOULD BEEN ASK YOU WHAT IS GOING ON,LOOK I AM VERY BUSY MAN PLEASE CAN YOU COME AND COLLECT YOUR CHEQUE IN PERSON, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

PLEASE!!! CAN YOU COME AND COLLECT YOUR CHEQUE SINCE YOU DON'T UNDERSTOOD ME

JOHN SIVIYA

He raised his prices! Tsk tsk! We'll let it slide for now.. Twisted Evil

Quote:

John

I have just recieved your email. I was expecting a response yesterday after my business meeting, but you never sent one until today. I thought I already paid the charge? The company will not let the receiver pay the fee for the mailing? That is not what Mr. G0m3r had told me. I will call them back and demand a refund for my money since it was incorrect.

I am still unsure of what you are doing. First you want to call me. Then you don't wanta call. Now you wish for me to call you. Now what are you talking about? You want me to come pick up the cheque? What about fedex? I am quite confused to what you are trying to do. You are talking over yourself to much. Please let your next email be clear. I have a lot of work to finish before the company sends me on a business trip. I have not yet found out where. I believe they want me to look for new locations for branch offices.

Lim Dul

Poor little ol' me. I'll never see my..er what was I going for again? Laughing

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:29 pm

Place your bets on if a n00b can get him to safari?

I'm optimistic! Here's my bet!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:54 pm

I like to think that you can! Go to it! Very Happy

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:48 pm

WOO! Got him rilled up!
I havn't even played with sending WU money yet!

Quote:

Subject: ENOUGH OF YOUR INSULT

LOOK I CAN NOT TAKE THAT FROM YOU, SINCE YOU ARE UNSURE OF WHAT AM SAYING PLEASE!!!CAN YOU COME AND COLLECT YOUR CHEQUE,ENOUGH OF YOUR INSULT.

I TOLD YOU THAT THE FEDEX COUREIR COMPANY REQUEST THAT YOU MUST PAY THE DELIVERY CHARGE WHICH IS THE SUM OF $1150 FIRST BEFORE I CAN DEPOSIT YOUR PACKAGE TO THEIR COMPANY FOR THE DELIVERY.

ENOUGH OF YOUR INSULT, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL IS MR.G0M3R,YOUR CHEQUE STILL WITH ME.

ONLY GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH

EVANGELIST JOHN SIVIYA
+xxxxxxxxxxx

But wait? I already paid? Guess another Dolla got chopped without anyone knowing. Rolling Eyes

Quote:

I do not know what you are taking insult at. You have been very confusing to me while I have been trying diligently to conclude our business in the most prompt and orderly manor. I have contacted Fedex, and they seem to not know who the man I talked to was. The number I had for him no longer operates. It seems they will not refund my money since they have no record of it ever being recieved. I will have to deal with them later.

I do still wish to do business with you. I am sorry I could not be more informative, but I was misinformed about Mr. G0m3r myself. He had contacted the number I had sent you so it seemed as if he had already talked to you. Perhaps he is someone working with you that caught a glance of your computer screen or cell phone?

I do agree that we should remove the courier all together. I happen to be traveling to Africa, on the 12th of july, to start up several branch offices of the company I am working for. It has been a very long, and exhaustive, couple of months planning, organizing, and finding of proper areas that require our services. I will have to bring start up money for several construction sites with me, and I can include your fees in the amount I bring with me.

If it would help, I could leave a few days earlier, under the excuse of preparing for my business travel, and meet you to conclude our business.

Lim Dul

He's so hopping mad he might make a "mistake". I can be trusted not to do ANYTHING wrong right? Twisted Evil

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:55 am

So my lad FINALLY called my line. It's not even worth putting up. 30 seconds that was basically like his email asking if I wanted the cheque mailed to me or if I want to pick it up.

My reply to him

Quote:

John

I was told I had a message waiting for me on the number I gave you. I got your message about what you would like to do. I think it would be best if I picked it up in person. If you want to try and send it by mail again then you will have to say so, but I would rather avoid the problem with Fedex again. Perhaps there is another way besides them?

Tell me what you would like to do since I must prepare to leave for my business trip and need to know if I am going to arrive early for our business transaction. This is the utmost personal importance now that I have time away from the Company.

Lim Dul

He needs to feel like he's making the rules again. After all he just got a nasty Chop. Had to raise his rates just to recover! Very Happy

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:23 am

So i wasnt checking my account because john usually is quiet at this time of night. Then again something made me go look. I find this as the first email I got in response.

Quote:

Dear Lim Dul

I received your message and the content was well noted, The chioce is yours

Thanks

John Siviya

He seems fine..Then I get this one dated 1 hour later.

Quote:

CALL ME +xxxxxxxxxx

Okay, right, SURREEE we know how well THAT has worked. 3 minutes after that i have this one.

Quote:

DEAR LIM DUL

ARE YOU COMING OR NOT ? IF YOU ARE NOT COMING SEND THE MONEY FOR THE DELIVERY OF YOUR PACKAGE TO ENABLE US FINALIZE THE TRANSACTION

informations where you will send the fee through western union.

Receiver's Name...........John Mocha
Country Name............Benin Republic
State..........................Cotonou
Postal Code.............00229
Text Question.........A
Text Answer..............B

THANKS

JOHN SIVIYA

Anyone get the feeling I've broken something? Very Happy

Quote:

John

I have just come out of a planning meeting for how the Company will be setting up its branches in Africa. Then I see all these e-mails. Are you sure of what you want to do? I told you that I can pick up the cheque in person if you so choose. If it is your wish to continue to try and get a courier then please be clear. Although how I will be getting this money to you if I can't trust the couriers. I have never heard of this "Western Union". Are them some kind of thing that the countries known as "the west" have?

Please tell me if you want me to send money, or to arrive in Africa early and bring money with me. It needs to be soon. I still have time before July 12th when I will have to be on business for the Company. If you give me your CLEAR reply I can bring any of your fees with me along with the $412,000 I will be bringing for start up of the new offices. I think we could make it something nice like say. $10,000 for all your trouble? Anything more and the Company would notice the excess money I would be bringing.

Again, please be clear with me. Do you want me to just send the shipping fees now. Or try and arrive in Africa a few days earlier than my schedualed trip. You must hurry because I am running out of time to organize all this. It is very difficult for me to continue working the hours I work and keep business contacts with you that are unclear.

Lim

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