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BobCat
Master of Master Baiters
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:34 pm |
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With the discussion on ethics, I'm going to take the rules of spam
http://bruce.pennypacker.org/spamrules.html
and adopt them to scambaiting.
Rule#0: Scamming is theft.
Commentary: Scammers believe it is their right to steal from anyone on the internet.
Rule#1: Lads lie.
Admonition: Always assume that there is a measurable chance that the entity you are dealing with is a lad.
Contradiction: Lads will redefine any term in order to disguise their scamming.
Corollary: Lads attempt to re-define "scamming" as that which they do not do.
Rule #2: If a lad seems to be telling the truth, see Rule #1.
Corollary: A lad when caught, blames his victims.
Rule#3: Lads are greedy.
Corollary: Lads' greediness can make them do things that are stupid.
Corollary: Never underestimate the greediness of lads.
Corollary: Lads assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
Lads Standard of discource: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.
Rule #4: The natural course of a lad's business is to get baited.
John McClain's Commentary: BAIT HARD.
Rule #5: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.
edit: Rule#3 updated. |
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Baek Ðu San
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:01 pm |
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^^^^ I agree!
"The natural course of a lad's business is to get baited." |
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Old No. 7
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:02 pm |
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BobCat wrote: |
Rule#3: Lads are stupid.
Corollary: Lads' lies are really stupid.
Commentary: Lads' lies are boring.
Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of lads |
I think this is a dangerous oversimplification (and I realize that you are being whimsical). Some of these guys are baiting in languages other than their native tongue and are smart enough to understand human nature and manipulate their victims (even highly educated victims) to get them to send money.
Some lads are stupid. Some are unsophisticated. Some are very smart indeed. A bit like any general population.
I always start by assuming that the lad is smarter than he appears, not dumber - just in case |
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MostlyHarmless
Master Baiter
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Posts: 114
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:31 pm |
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Rule #5: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.
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So are we saying that because a lad does something that it's ok for us to do it back to them? Rules for how scammers behave is one thing but the ethics of scambaiting is a totally different subject. I think it would be a good idea not to confuse the two. |
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Eight
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:35 pm |
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Rules for how scammers behave is the topic of this thread. The ethics of scambaiting is not. The latter been very recently the subject of another thread, has also been frequently in the past and no doubt will be again. But not in this thread, please. |
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Mugatu
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Joined: 13 May 2007
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:42 pm |
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I thought that was quite amusing.
With my serious head on, I agree with ON7 in that I believe it's an all too common mistake to assume lad stupidity. Many of them are good at what they do, in a foreign language to boot. If you need to generalise, I'd say greed is a more common trait than stupidity in lads.
But silly head on, (and I do believe that Bobcat was aiming for light relief) then yes that made me smile. |
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jerkov
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Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:51 pm |
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Eight wrote: |
Rules for how scammers behave is the topic of this thread. The ethics of scambaiting is not. The latter been very recently the subject of another thread, has also been frequently in the past and no doubt will be again. But not in this thread, please. |
please link to that thread for eveyone's comfort. (and because i hate to get 2000 hits for everything i search for) |
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Eight
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:56 pm |
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Mugatu
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:56 pm |
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Oh come on, I just did a search for "ethics" and found 2 locked threads just from today. On those threads, Sheboppe took the time to link to several much older ones. Those searches took me about 30 seconds.
Edit: Beaten to it by Eight. |
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jerkov
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:05 pm |
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thanks ppl. i may have exaggerated the searching a little bit, but like some people won't use condoms, i won't use search. sorry for being an asshole, but i can't help it.... |
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rumbero
Baiting Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:10 pm |
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I disagree with this rule
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Commentary: Lads' lies are boring. |
They can turn out to be some of the funniest ones |
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dr stephen williams
Baiting Guru
Joined: 06 Aug 2007
Posts: 16749
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:32 pm |
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^^^I have to concur with my esteemed colleague, Rumbero. Lads lies can be so much better than the-dog-ate-my-homework type of lies, vastly entertaining. |
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sheboppe
The Sparkly Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:51 pm |
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jerkov wrote: |
thanks ppl. i may have exaggerated the searching a little bit, but like some people won't use condoms, i won't use search. sorry for being an asshole, but i can't help it.... |
Please try not be as this is a public forum. Courtesy and respect for others are highly desired traits. |
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lotta
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:11 pm |
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Excellent breakdown, BobCat. |
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BobCat
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:38 am |
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Yes, I was being whimsical, and not meaning to start another ethics thread.
And you're right, I should rewrite rule#3.
Rule#3: Lads are greedy.
Corollary: Lads' greediness can make them do things that are stupid.
Corollary: Never underestimate the greediness of lads.
Corollary: Lads assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
Lads Standard of discource: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.
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_________________ --BobCat
"I AM SEEK AND TIRED OF THIS AND I DONT THINK I CAN CONTINUE ANYMORE" Jul13t N0rm@n
"THANKS FOR MAKING FUN OF ME.." "I DIDNT GET ANY F***ING MONEY AND STOP MAKING FUN OF ME.. OK" Jul13t N0rm@n (rebaited from another character)
" I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT END TO THIS GAME,AND REASON WHY I SAID THIS IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT CONTINUE WITH GOING TO WESTERN UNION" Dr Bens0n
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKE TO GET A MAGA IS NOT EASY MAN, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE CAUSE ME FOR TWO WEEKS NOW I CAN PAY MY HOUSE RENT THEY ARE ABOUT TO SEND MY FAMILY OUT OF THE HOUSE WE LIVE" Dr @d3kun13 Bens0n
"I THOUGHT I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING YOU WANTED WHY ARE YOU STRESSING US OUT." - Mu$@ H0us3
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Old No. 7
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 777
Location: Somewhere Else
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:41 am |
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Much better.
I thought:
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Corollary: "Lad's greediness often blinds them and makes them do things that are stupid" |
had a better ring to it.
Or maybe I'm a smart-*~@
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Wright B Hindyou
Elite Baiter
Joined: 11 May 2004
Posts: 1795
Location: Bangkok
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:43 am |
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Rule #5 is a bit weak.
I think it should read.
Rule #5: Lads have no ethics or morals whatsoever.
Corollary: Lads will screw over anyone, no matter what the victim's situation is, to scam money from them.
Corollary: Lads would scam the flies off dog turds if they thought there was a buck in it.
Corollary: more
Corollary: even more |
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