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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:12 pm

so one day i was just replying to all of the spam in my yahoo email, and i actually got a reply, but lets start from the beginning.

----- Original Message ----
From: Wang Yan <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:27:47 AM
Subject: Seeking Your Consideration.

Good Day,

I am a staff of Private Banking Services at the Bank of China (BOC). I am
contacting you concerning our customer and, an investment placed under our
banks management 3 years ago.

I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail
confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a
result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation
and no one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you
with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.

In 2004, the subject matter; ref: bb/boc/bank/0012 came to our bank to
engage in business discussions with our Private Banking Services
Department. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of 8.375
million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over
(invest) on his behalf.

I was the officer assigned to his case; I made numerous suggestions in
line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the
Private Banking Services Department, especially given the volume of funds
he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any
investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth
funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advice to customers is
to start by assessing data on 6000 traditional stocks and bond managers
and 2000 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, we spun
the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our
first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this
point at over 10 million United States Dollars,
this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk
guaranteed returns on investments.

In mid 2005, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to
make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Europe. He directed
that I liquidate the funds and had it deposited with a firm. I informed
him that the bank would have to make special arrangements to have this
done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to
make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory
charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I
explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash
movement across borders has become especially strict since the incident of
9/11. I contacted my affiliate in and had the funds available.

I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise
instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited in a security
consultancy firm, the firm is a specialist private firm that accepts
deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that
handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate
access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar
especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line
with instructions, the money was deposited. He told me he wanted the money
there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was
the last communication we had, this transpired around 9th October 2004.

In January this year, we got a call from the security firm informing us
that the inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding
position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the
private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit , and
I could not understand why he had not come forward to claim his
deposit. I made futile efforts to locate him I immediately passed the task
of locating him to the internal investigations department of the bank of
china. Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently he
was dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart
attack in Canne, South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the
body and cause of death was confirmed.

The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving
next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim
his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who
patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of
detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no
next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us
means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a
name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous.
This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to
them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the
account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private
banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most
cases leave wills in our care, in this case; he died intestate.

In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed
away, we instituted our own investigations in good faith to determine who
should have right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the past
months been unfruitful. We have scanned every continent and used our
private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the
problem. The investigation did not ever yield any result My official
capacity dictates that I am the only party to supervise the investigation
and the only party to receive the results of the investigation.

This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the
prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and the late
beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, the firm will by the
end of this financial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to
BOC, failing to receive viable claims they will most probably revert the
deposit back to BOC. This will result in the money entering the BOC
accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of the
Private Banking Services Department. This will not happen if I have my
way.

What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want
you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world
who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The
world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those
who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have
begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose.
There is US$ 8,375,000.00 deposited, I alone have the deposit details and
they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I
alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as BOC is
concerned, the transaction with our deceased customer concluded when I
sent the funds to the firm, all outstanding interactions in relation to
the file are just customer services and due process.

They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party
that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great
amounts of money trying to track this man's family; they have investigated
for months and have found no family. The investigation has come to an end.

My proposal; I am prepared to place you in a position to give instruction
for the release of the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation.
Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in
half. That is: I will simply nominate you as the
next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the
proceeds 50/50. I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to
me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in
claiming the deposit. I assure you that I could have the deposit released
to you within a few days. I will simply inform the bank of the final
closing of the file relating to the customer I will then officially
communicate with the firm and instruct them to release the deposit to
you. With these two things: all is done. The alternative would be for us
to have the firm direct the funds to another bank with you as account
holder. This way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the
money from the firm. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions.

I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no
interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you
do not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you,
delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my
career because you do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this
but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of
comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a
criminal and what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be
hard for you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that
I make this move.

Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let
this chance pass me by, for once I find myself in total control of my
destiny. These chances won't pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy my
chance, if you will not work with me let me know and let me move on with
my life but do not destroy me. I am a family man and this is an
opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for
this project and it is a task well worth undertaking. I have evaluated the
risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing to work with me
and alerting my bank. I am the only one who knows of this situation, good
fortune has blessed you with a name that has planted you into the center
of relevance in my life. Let's share the blessing.

If you find yourself able to work with me, contact me through this same
email account. If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this
process towards a conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you contact
me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project.
I repeat, I do not want you contacting me through my official phone lines
nor do I want you contacting me through my official email account. Contact
me only through this email address. I do not want any direct link between
you and me. My official lines are not secure lines as they are
periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with
our Total Quality Management Policy.

Please observe this instruction religiously. Please, again, note I am a
family man; I have a wife and children. I send you this mail not without a
measure of fear as to what the consequences, but I know within me that
nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come
easy or on a platter of gold. This is the one truth I have learned from my
private banking clients. Do not betray my confidence.

Best regards,

Wang Yan.

my reply:

Tim
sometime in 07

You sir speak very good English.

Tim

his reply:

From: Wang Yan <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2008 4:13:32 AM
Subject: Seeking Your Consideration.

Hello Tim,
I thank you for your email and i honestly appreciate your compliment. Please do you think you are interested in working with me on this transaction?

Thank you as I will appreciate your kind response.

Best Regards,

Wang Yan.

and at last, i have not hear a reply from him after this one, i think that i have found a winner:

Tim
3-19-08

OK i will consider you offer, but if and only if you free Tibet. so once that is cleared up i will be glad to finish this transaction with you.

Best Regards,
Tim

so if somebody from china wants something.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:18 pm

Um, the idea is to keep them occupied for as long as possible so they waste their time on a dead-end mark rather than real ones who will lose money.
Or am I reading your message totally incorrectly?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:28 am

Moved Here.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:53 pm

Quote:

im
3-19-08

OK i will consider you offer, but if and only if you free Tibet. so once that is cleared up i will be glad to finish this transaction with you.

Best Regards,
Tim

so if somebody from china wants something.

Welcome to Eaterland!

Whilst your answers are concise, which is good in the early stages of a bait, that last response will have your lad running for the hills in search of easier targets. You need to act compliant in the early stages of a bait to gain the lads confidence. Once he has invested some internet cafe time in you you can then start to unravel his script and have some fun.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence in your post.

Also can I suggest you use the Quote button when posting to highlight lads text from your own personal observations. It just makes it easier to read.You can use the Preview button to check the content before posting it. If you don't know how to do that just ask.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:48 pm

Quote:

so one day i was just replying to all of the spam in my yahoo email

Would that be the email that you use in real life, with your real name and details attached to it?

Elite Baiter Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1269

If it is, drop the bait. You can rebait from a safe email addy.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:43 pm

All of the above, but the idea of "yes, but free Tibet first" made me smile Smile

Alas, there's a better than even chance your scammer is as Chinese as I am (0%), more likely West Africa (not necessarily, but there's a very strong chance! Truth is an alien concept to a scammer)

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:54 am

I agree with Otter. There are zillions of ways to end a conversation with a scammer, especially in the early stages. But it's much harder to keep them going.

However I like your idea about discussing issues related to Tibet with "Chinese" scammers. Of course they are not actually Chinese[1] which makes it likely that they'll give you at least a few ridiculous answers.

[1] if you have any doubt about this, reply to a "Chinese" scammer in Mandarin. This is also a very good way to end a conversation.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:49 pm

Yea, I got a mail from this "Wang Yan" too. I told him to f... off, since it came to my main ya.ho.o account, and I did not felt like wasting my time with him, since I already had some lads with the same story, including the B.O.C. stuff (Micha3l L3yden and Patri.c.k. K. W. Ch3n).