What's the deal with Spain?

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419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

Are there a lot of lads there, or a big 419 operation there or something?

I had a weird bait recently where the scammer wanted my character to come to Spain. Just out of curiosity I obliged, knocked together a fake itinerary, etc...then the lad dropped me as soon as I said I was in Madrid. The bait wasn't very good anyway so no big loss, but I'd never seen that tactic used before.

In my catcher account I'm finding a lot of emails that mention Spain, and an unusual incidence of emails where the IP headers resolve to Spain.

Anyone know anything about this? Question

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:24 am

The lads have contacts or pretend to have contacts in Spain.

I have dealt with this type of baits before. Usually the mugu will never show up for the meeting. The mugu will change the location to another place.
It's just a tactic.

419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

What's the point? This mugu never asked me for money, just demanded I show up in Spain.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:54 am

In my limited experience, Spain is popular because it's a place you're likely not to travel to, and it's not western Africa.

Lads are aware that many people have at least heard of the "Nigerian Letter Scam", so staging their game from that location may be unwise for them. I think Spain is just used as another staging location. Of course, when you indicate that you can't drop everything and travel there, that's when the lads' courier company comes into play. For only $1,500 US paid by wire transfer, they can deliver your consignment right to your door!

Then again, there just might be a massive population of mugus in Madrid for all I know!

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:56 am

Just to see if you will comply to his wishes, burned bad once maybe Very Happy

Do him a favor, but get lost and make sure that you arive on his rest day (if he has one) so he has to work or doesn't get your emails in time so you travel back to Madrid disappointed. All his fault of course Twisted Evil

Spain is/was an easy entry for Africa travelers and with Gibraltar as British soil a handy first step to settle in Europe.
And from there there are some providers that can make the jump over the Mediterranean only �8 km from Tarifa (Portugal)

419Eater is my life Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 293

Obi-Wan, after your reply I realize suddenly that's exactly what the gag was.

The mugu was hoping I would balk at going to Spain and instead want to have the "consignment" delivered. My mistake was agreeing to go so quickly. Wink

Live and learn. Thanks everybody! See you in Madrid. *sips sangria* Laughing

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:36 am

Amsterdam is another popular place it seems Wink

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:34 am

Andronicus wrote:

My mistake was agreeing to go so quickly.

What mistake? Baiting Rule #24 states that lads make mistakes all the time, but baiters are always correct. All you need to do is wait an appropriate amount of time (which may only be a few hours in lad-land), and zap a message back saying something like this...

Dear Mugu;

Unfortunately I will not be able to meet you in Madrid as I had originally promised. I have just been called back to work by my boss, who will surely fire me if I take another week-long absence without explanation. My wife, meanwhile, has told me she'll divorce me if I go on another trip to Europe without her - and I certainly cannot bring her into this business because she asks too many questions, even though she is probably doing it with her tennis instructor (a Swedish weight-lifter named Helga). Besides, my airline has just informed me that ticket prices have doubled due to the rising cost of fuel and coffee, and my sister has just destroyed my automobile in the recent snowstorm and it will cost a lot of money to fix.

While I truly regret not being able to come to Madrid, I am still interested in going forward with our business. Is there a way we can conclude this without me traveling all that way? I look forward to your reply.

Signed,
Your Nemesis

You see, offering to travel to Spain was not a mistake, it was a delaying tactic. That's one of your best weapons: Draw things out to the point where the lad is tearing his hair out in frustration, but still make him think he's got a willing (if infuriating) victim on the line. Odds are about 98% that your lad will say no problem and start the courier process right away.

"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin" - Dr. Condoleezaa Rice

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:06 am

I am traveling to Madrid on Wednesday as it happens to meet up with a lad.

Quote:

Graig,

I have attached my flight details. As you can see I will travel on Wednesday but will arrive 19:55 local time. Can somebody meet me at the airport?

Caron

There are definitely Spain based lads. I have had many of them turn up at the airport to meet me. Mostly in Madrid. Other popular European destinations seem to be Amsterdam , Paris and London. Well that is my experience.

edited for typo

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:57 pm

Thanks for asking this! My lad just asked me to go to Spain as well. I may make the trip after he deals with my dolla chopper.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:24 pm

Heh, bonus points if you can work in details from the resident evil game.

LOS GANADOS!!!! *headshot* *oh crap his head popped off and hes still coming*

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:32 pm

Obi-Wan Knievel wrote:

Baiting Rule #24 states that lads make mistakes all the time, but baiters are always correct.

Quite so. Likewise, rule #23 states that the lad is always wrong. #22 that the lad is never right. #21 says that the baiter is always correct. Ad infinatum.

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