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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:04 pm

Mugatu wrote:

Oh, nice shorts by the way. Are the boys back in the barracks?

Just thought i'd share a little snap shot from the album with the ladies. this was after lunge training

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 720

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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:00 pm

@haywood_jablowmi: Your idea to have two scammers meet for a bar fight is not bad. I am indeed baiting another check scammer. Maybe I'll do a chop on him just like I did on this guy, and then somehow make both scammers think the other is the chopper.

@onyenekwu: Thanks a lot for the pointer about panti! I had no idea it was a real thing. I thought he was misspelling something but I had no idea what.

@kurat: Your idea reminds me of a British TV show I saw on youtube. The host of the show, who's not a chess expert, played 9 chess masters simultaneously, and won the majority of the games. His secret? He memorized the moves of each of his opponents, and used each guy's moves on a different opponent. In other words, the chess masters were really playing against each other. I forget the guy's name, but he plays all kinds of mind games on people using his amazing memory and psychological tricks. I suspect some of it may be bogus but it's fun to watch anyway.

@Bait Runner: Good point. I am getting this effect anyway, because some of my victim characters are replying to the mugu's warning by saying they are confused and now don't know who is real and who isn't. So there will be plenty of opportunities for confusion.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:01 pm

Dog Dine wrote:

I forget the guy's name, but he plays all kinds of mind games on people using his amazing memory and psychological tricks.

Derren Brown. A very, very talented guy.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:23 pm

Mugatu wrote:

Derren Brown. A very, very talented guy.

Yes, that's the guy, thanks. On one show using a hidden camera, he walked up to a stranger on a busy street, asked him directions, casually asked him to hand over his watch and wallet, and the guy did!

After Derren thanked him and walked away, the guy finally scratched his head, figured out what happened, caught up with Derren and asked for his things back. Derren graciously gave them back, and if I remember right, he got the guy to hand them over again.

Is that really possible? I know scammers talk their victims into doing ridiculous things, and baiters do the same to scammers, but there's a limit to that, isn't there? Maybe not.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:27 pm

Six chickens killed oh my! Shocked

That is really good stuff DD, fantastic baiting! clapping

There are so many possibilities, get your ass kicked or join forces? Either way he's practically begging you to bait the shit out of him. Laughing

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:27 pm

He's basically an expert hypnotist, it's all done with the power of suggestion to the subconcious, he's widely regarded as an expert in the field, and somewhat of a genius.

Now I'm going to run off, as we're so far off topic I fear KD will be here shortly with the keys. Embarassed

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:34 pm

Derrin Brown is amazing. He has a show on Sci-fi channel, plus you tube clips. Plenty of material you can adapt to baiting, esp. the power of suggestion stuff.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:37 pm

firehouse5 wrote:

Quote:

You think its funny stealing over $5000 from someone elses hardwork and sweat just like that.

Dunno about anyone else but I am laughing my head off.

I'm with you, firehouse5. Along those lines, here's the reply I'm sending from my fake chopping mugu to the real mugu. Thanks again to onyenekwu for the tip about panti and alagbon.

Fake Dolla-Chopper wrote:

<< ur ass will be so busted at panti >>

That should be interesting, since my connections are in alagbon.

<< You think its funny stealing over $5000 from someone elses hardwork >>

Yes, I do. I think it's fuckin hilarious. In fact, I'm laughing right
now. You owe me a new computer keyboard, cause I just spit coffee all
over mine from laughing so hard.

Just kiddin, I'll let you slide on buying me a new keyboard. I can afford to buy me own keyboard, lol.

I notice you have no problem stealing other people's hard earned money,
bro. So don't be acting offended. You just jealous cause I do it
better than you.

<< we can be chopping dis dolla together >>

Hey, I'm a practical man. If you have an idea to increase my income, I
can listen. But if your idea is for me to make $2500 instead of $5000,
that don't fly.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:28 pm

Dog Dine, I am in awe. That is some outstanding baiting, my friend! In fact, you've inspired me to try to do some dolla-choppin myself, because the creative possiblities are just so endless. Thanks for sharing!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:46 pm

Thanks a lot Cachuma. Check scammers seem boring on the surface, but I have had a huge amount of fun baiting them.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:50 pm

I no longer listen to folks who say some particular type of scammers are boring. I was told that lotto lads are boring - but it was a lotto lad who I first got to fall in love with one of my baiting characters, and I ended up with a months-long bait including lengthy pornographic emails from my lad, two trips to the airport to "pick me up", and a despondent suicide threat when he was notified that my character got hit and killed by a bus and her "sister" picked up where she'd left off in trying to get her lotto winnings. Boring? No way!

Anyway, keep up the good work!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:43 pm

Hah, I wanted to say that I want to try a check lad too Smile

One question, how do you bring the dolla-chopper into play? Do you just tell the pet that someone contacted you and told you to send the money to the chopper?

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Great work Dog Dine, loved the replies Laughing

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:16 am

Wow! How many chickens get it for the third chop? That was beautiful.

The crossed-mugu chopper idea made me think of the Derren Brown chess thing before you mentioned it too - brilliant idea, get two bois effectively baiting one another, and suddenly your works effectiveness is amplified threefold.

And anyone reading, if you've not seen Derren Brown in action, he is without a doubt the greatest practicing magician/performer at the moment. Go onto the web now, watch everything you can find from 'trick of the mind' and 'mind control' for short-item shows, 'messiah' for debunking ufo-believers, clairvoyants, evangelical christian conversions, etc., ('trick or treat' was a different premise). He is not just a good performer, but a great one, easily up there with Houdini, Mesmer, etc., and by using largely NLP/hypnosis style methods effects some truly astonishing scenes. One of my favourites is convincing a woman in a bar with her friends that red = yellow. She was so convinced so quickly, she couldn't even recognise her own car in the car park, as it was the wrong colour - all with her friends right there with her. You've never seen anything quite like it, and you'll question and want to learn about the workings of your own mind. Seriously, hit youtube now, you'll be glad you did!

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:38 am

Very nice work, It's always great to see a lad pushed over the edge.

Regarding Mr. Brown, I don't deny that he's an incredibly talented man, but having seen some of the things he does to people/makes people do for his own profit/amusement, am I the only person who thinks he's a banker with a capital W?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:56 am

kurat wrote:

how do you bring the dolla-chopper into play? Do you just tell the pet that someone contacted you and told you to send the money to the chopper?

Basically, yes. Here's what I said, in reply to the mugu asking if I had gotten the check and sent the money:

Check Baiter wrote:

What do you mean? Of course I got the check, and I sent the money. It was $2700. I sent it to your boss Mr. xxx, just as he instructed. Didn't he tell you? He told me he got the money and he says another check is coming soon. He said I should communicate only with him, not you, which seems strange, but I don't see how it will hurt to tell you. Anyway, thanks a lot, I really appreciate the work your company is providing me. I hope the next check comes faster than this one.

When the lad replied saying "what the hell is going on?", I replied:

Check Baiter wrote:

I'm sorry, xxxx. I got an email from Mr. xxxx about cashing checks. It sounded just like your job, so I told him I was already getting a check. He said he is your boss, and you are overworked and I should only email with him and not you. He told me to send the money to him because he had to buy some raw materials or something. What is going on? Is he in trouble? Are you? Am I? This is getting very confusing.

The next time this mugu gets chopped, I'll have to do it a little differently. He has now warned all his victims not to answer emails from the chopper. So instead, the chopper will send a spoof email using the real mugu's own address as the "from" address. The message will say something like "change of plan, please send the WU to xxx instead of yyy because yyy is sick." The victim character will then reply to the mugu saying "OK, I sent the money to xxx as you instructed." Hey, the mugu can't blame my victim character for being gullible - I didn't get any emails from that bad Mr. Chopper, the email seemed to come from you, o trusted mugu. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:11 am

Dog Dine, this is some prime grade-A Dolla choppin goin down here. Keep it coming - I'm enjoying this one! Very Happy

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:40 am

Just remember that he thinks he will have the last laugh because he knows the check was really bad.
What if the Choppa were to give the victim his bank account, and the victim double crossed him? Pulled the money reverse style. You might be able to get a bank account out of the original perp, if he thought you might transfer him some dough.
Have the Russian crying the blues, for a while, only to make a huge score in the end. Kinda an in-your-face to the original perp.
This has lots of neat ways it could go. Great work.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:11 pm

wow, very good...thanks Dog Smile

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:05 pm

Dog Dine wrote:

Khaan wrote:

Is your scammer character going to "collaborate" with him?

It would probably be a good idea, but I'm not sure where I would go with that. Lack of imagination mainly. I like to have at least a vague plan before I begin. But maybe I'll say something like "what do you have in mind?" and see if anything fun develops.

sorry for the long qoute, but its from some posts above, so I want to be clear to what I am commenting.

the colaboration is my fav modality. imagine a guiman like you choppin vlad (though as the real lad discovered, perhaps just a 9ja man himself) is so very busy to collect all the cash and spend the money ... he needs an assistant to care for all those magga in is box ooooo.

this is what my lads have to offer:

- good hints of web-sources (such as baiter-only-guestbooks, bogus forums)
- victim info (phone-numbers, e-mails, phoney-adresses and amounts paid - all baiters or me) ask the lad to send em a recovery.
- I have made up fake scammer e-mail boxes at yahoo and ask the lads to continue them baits in there.

in the end it is allways nice to discuss a bait from a lads perspective (e.g. lad-to-lad).

PS.: Thanx Dog Dine for posting this choppin bait and making me laugh Laughing

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:41 pm

Quote:

- I have made up fake scammer e-mail boxes at yahoo and ask the lads to continue them baits in there.

Ahem! That should read "scams", right? Unless I've got things ass backwards...

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:20 pm

I want to find out how many chickens I earn for the 3rd chop. Hey, can I put chicken icons in my siggy? Very Happy

I'm baiting him from 8 different addresses, so I have plenty of choppin opportunities.

The lad warned all his victims to beware of emails that don't come from his own email address. That meant the third chop had to be a little more subtle than the first two. I made it look like my fake chopping mugu wrote to the victim with a spoofed "from" address of the real scammer. I wrote this to the real scammer:

Check victim character wrote:

Subj: Re: Thank You For Payment

Dear [Real Scammmer],

I came home from my errands to find your lovely email. It was so sweet of you, and quite startling based on your past communication, or lack of it. There was no need for such effusive praise for my payment, but I do appreciate it.

As you know, when my check finally arrived, it was such a pleasant surprise that it was no trouble at all to immediately send the money as you directed. I believe in encouraging good behavior, so I want to say a big thanks for being so considerate. I hope it continues. I will look forward to the next check, and to seeing more of your courteous side.

Have a pleasant weekend.

[Victim]

----- Original message -----
From: [Real Scammer] <real_scammer'[email protected]>
To: [Victim] <[email protected]>
Subj: Thank You For Payment

Hello [Victim],

Thank you very much for your speedy payment. Our Ghana factory manager received the funds you sent and all is well.

[Victim], I don't believe I have thanked you enough for all you have done. I must tell you what a pleasure it is to work with someone as diligent as your kindly self. If all our workers had your ethical attitude towards work, my life would be so much easier. Too many people these days want to reap from where they do not sow. It is very gratifying that you do not seek to profit from other people's hard work and sweat. Instead, you are willing to do what is necessary to get the job done. I want to express my appreciation by offering you a 20% commission on the next check we send. It is the least we can do to recognize your dedication to the success of our company.

The next check will go out to you next week. I will notify you as soon as I confirm that it is on the way.

Thank you again, and may God bless you and your family.

With humble gratitude,
[Real Scammer (spoofed by fake chopping scammer)]

I thought that would earn my chopper a poisonous stream of death threats to beat the previous ones. But the lad is playing it cool this time. He sent my victim an exact copy of the "thank you" email that my fake chopper had written, in other words pretending that nothing is wrong with my payment. I guess he's getting embarrassed to admit to victims that he's been chopped. Then he wrote to say he is now using a new email addy because the old one was hacked.

The 4th chop will have to spoof his new addy. I want more chickens!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:49 pm

Have you checked out bigstring.com for addy's? Great fun can be had from there, you can spoof addy's too.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:34 am

Fastmail lets me spoof emails real easily. Bigstring has some fun features. The feature I use the most is the one that tells me when recipients read my emails, and their IP. It's not foolproof but it's pretty good.

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