A "pay-up-or die" threat in my catcher account

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:00 am

i got my first death threat today, looks like the same one
with some numbers changed
I must admit i was not impressed when i started reading it, but have sent back some bait
he os on <[email protected]

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:13 am

I'm a bit of a hitman-mugu buff myself. I still have one on the line from months ago, in fact, but he's long since dropped the hitman thing.

Normally, I spout off a lot about how the lads are not nearly as stupid as they look. In the case of the hit-mugu, my preaching just doesn't apply! These guys are like the average lad (greedy, impatient, worthless, etc.) only with half as much intelligence and even less personality. I have more respect for cockroaches and ear-wax than I have for these guys. I kept calling one of them an earlobe, since even a (insert offensive body part here) has a purpose in life!

After the first few exchanges, they really can be boring to bait. Unlike the barristers / widows / lotto lads, they're completely unwilling to do anything but demand money and spew their idle threats. They may get distracted once in a while, but they always come back to their guttural script. There will be no requests for ID or any documents and no phone calls, since they have nothing to offer or verify.

I highly doubt they get replies from anyone but baiters, but I keep hitting them just in case. My best baiting with them is to straight-bait, at least at first, because they're not interested in anything but their script. You'll get some really good (or really bad!) death threats out of them for your signature lines! The one I have on the line is currently trying to work as an "adult image" photographer at the moment, but somehow I just can't get his paycheque to clear.

These guys will respond to just about anyone, so they make really good target practice.

"He's no good to me dead" - Aristotle

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:56 am

I also love a good hitman mugu even tho they get frustrated with me very quickly. The last one got really pissed b/c the federal agents kept raiding my property over a little tax debt. Sent him off an email anyway. Laughing

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 589

This should be fun Very Happy

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 126

Pff, he's still too busy to reply to me, I figure that who ever is paying him didn't pay a lot. Leave him all alone so he can reply to my mail dammit Sad

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:41 pm

I haven't received a reply from him yet either.

Has anyone got any messages from him recently? I'm wondering if this scumbag has given up already (a good thing). No doubt he's been overwhelmed with replies.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:25 pm

It is the weekend though, he probably sent out his mails on Friday or Saturday and he'll be taking a break today. Even dumb hitmen need time off. Rolling Eyes

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 589

The lad just sent me this he already asked for the mtcn number lets hope he likes m3tn secure

HELLO DEAR
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HURT YOU OR ANY BODY AROUND YOU THAT IS IF ONLY YOU ARE READY TO CO-OPERATE WITH US LIKE I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE YOU ARE TO PAY $8,000 BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE THE RECORDING TAPE BETWEEN MY BOSS AND THE PERSON WHO WANT YOU DEAD SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT IS FOR YOU TO MAKE THE PAYMENT OF $8,000 MY BOSS IN UK (MR BILLY FROST) VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND AS WELL YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT BEFORE WE CAN SEND A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOU TO KNOW THE PERSON THAT WANT YOU DEAD SO YOU NEED TO BE FAST ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE TIME TO WASTE IF YOU DISOBEY I AM SORRY TO SAY YOU ARE A DEAD MEAT DONT PLAY WITH ME AND IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THIS MONEY NOW YOU DONT HAVE TO WASTE ANYTIME JUST GO TO WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND MAKE THIS PAYMENT AND AS WELL SEND THE INFORMATION TO MY BOSS IN UK WITH THE FOLLWOING PAYMENT INFORMATION.

SENDER NAME:
RECEIVER NAME: BILLY FROST
MTCN NUMBER:
AMOUNT SENT:
SCAN COPY OF THE PAYMENT SLIP

THIS ARE MY BOSS EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER
Email:[email protected]
Phone +xxxxxx754241

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:43 pm

I got a reply!

I went on the "who are you???" line and let him have a run with it:

HELLO YOU BASTARD IS LIKE YOU THINK I AM JOKING WITH YOU IF IN THE NEXT 24HOURS I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY POSITIVE RESPOND FROM YOU CONSIDER YOUR SELF A DEAD MEAT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT THAT WAY AND I WILL DO IT DONT PLAY WITH ME IF YOU DO I WILL PLAY WITH YOUR LIFE TOO

@Mugatu - feel free to have some fun with him

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:43 pm

He's working on a Sunday, replied 2 hours ago here. I'm hoping he has a fit by the end of the week. I just asem'd him with the first quote yesterday, he's keen.

Quote:

Hello who ever you are, there's only my business partner who could have done this, so I'm going to sort him out once he returns next month.

Thanks for letting me know

Quote:

HELLO YOU BASTARD IS LIKE YOU THINK I AM JOKING WITH YOU IF IN THE NEXT 24HOURS I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY POSITIVE RESPOND FROM YOU CONSIDER YOUR SELF A DEAD MEAT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT THAT WAY AND I WILL DO IT DONT PLAY WITH ME IF YOU DO I WILL PLAY WITH YOUR LIFE TOO

Quote:

I don't know who you are, but thank you for informing me about my business partner, he's going to be in deep shite when he returns next week

As for paying you? I have the information I need to protect myself now, thanks to you. I've never trusted Steve since we started this business, and now I can have him removed

Thank you for your information

Quote:

HELLO DEAR.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HURT YOU OR ANY BODY AROUND YOU THAT IS IF ONLY YOU ARE READY TO CO-OPERATE WITH US LIKE I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE YOU ARE TO PAY $8,000 BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE THE RECORDING TAPE BETWEEN MY BOSS AND THE PERSON WHO WANT YOU DEAD SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT IS FOR YOU TO MAKE THE PAYMENT OF $8,000 MY BOSS IN UK (MR BILLY FROST) VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND AS WELL YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT BEFORE WE CAN SEND A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOU TO KNOW THE PERSON THAT WANT YOU DEAD SO YOU NEED TO BE FAST ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE TIME TO WASTE IF YOU DISOBEY I AM SORRY TO SAY YOU ARE A DEAD MEAT DONT PLAY WITH ME AND IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THIS MONEY NOW YOU DONT HAVE TO WASTE ANYTIME JUST GO TO WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND MAKE THIS PAYMENT AND AS WELL SEND THE INFORMATION TO MY BOSS IN UK WITH THE FOLLWOING PAYMENT INFORMATION.

SENDER NAME:
RECEIVER NAME: BILLY FROST
MTCN NUMBER:
AMOUNT SENT:
SCAN COPY OF THE PAYMENT SLIP

THIS ARE MY BOSS EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER
Email:[email protected]
Phone +447045754241

Quote:

Ok, here's the deal, forget your Woofter in England, I'll send you $6,000, untraceable, you keep it, and we don't tell your Woofter in England about it, and you tell him you lost contact with me, ok

Better for you, and your Woofter won't be keeping it all either then,

How's that sound? Good deal?

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 589

He is off script already Razz

what should i do now

WE DONT RECEIVE MONEY BY CHEQUE IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU JUST GO AND PAY THE MONEY WITH THE INFORMATION WE GAVE YOU OR YOU HAVE YOUR SELF TO BLAME BECAUSE I WILL NOT ONLY ASK MY BOYS TO KILL YOU ALSO YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY SO BE WARNED.

YOU DONT HAVE TO WASTE ANYTIME JUST GO TO WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND MAKE THIS PAYMENT AND AS WELL SEND THE INFORMATION TO MY BOSS IN UK WITH THE FOLLWOING PAYMENT INFORMATION.

SENDER NAME:
RECEIVER NAME: BILLY FROST
MTCN NUMBER:
AMOUNT SENT:
SCAN COPY OF THE PAYMENT SLIP

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jack frost
is the name for cold snaps in the UK

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 589

ok

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:34 pm

Okay, let's get this pig.

Here's what I sent him:

Quote:

Sir,

I got your email. Why are you doing this? I don't know why someone would want me dead, because if I die, then my little boy dies too. If this is my ex-husband who is trying to kill me, then he knows that his son will die too.

Please listen to me. Maybe you already know this, but if you don't, please just think about this before you go forward. My little 5-year-old boy Aaron is in the hospital with cancer (leukemia). He is going to die if he doesn't get a bone-marrow-transplant surgery. I don't have much money, ever since my divorce we've been really struggling and barely getting by. We barely have enough money for food. I have managed to raise almost all of the money I need for his surgery, $20,000, and the hospital has agreed to pay for the rest. But if I don't give them the money that I have, they won't do the surgery and my little boy is going to die, probably within a few months.

PLEASE don't make me do this! I can't bear to watch my son waste away with this cancer. But if you kill me, he'll be left to die all by himself, as I have no one else to care for him.

Please go back to whoever hired you and ask them to stop this. Is money so important to you that you would let a little 5 year old boy die of cancer just so you can have some?

Tell me what to do so you'll spare my life!

He replied back with the same script as above, only he added this:

Quote:

HELLO DEAR I DONT CARE TO KNOW IF YOUR LITTLE BOY HAVE A CANCER OR NOT IT IS NOT MY BUSINESS AND DO NOT ASK ME WHO WANT YOU TO DIE YOU WILL KNOW BY THE TIME YOU GET THE RECORDING TAPE.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HURT YOU OR ANY BODY AROUND YOU THAT IS IF ONLY YOU ARE READY TO CO-OPERATE WITH US...blah blah blah

I'm thinking of telling him that I'll send him the money, but first I have to go drop my dying son off a bridge so that I can get it over with for him quickly, rather than my other two options, which are to not pay and have them kill ME, or pay and have him die a slow painful death.

Evil or Very Mad

This kind of bait is always good to do if you EVER start to feel even a LITTLE bit of doubt about the ethics of baiting.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:06 pm

^^Cach^^

I so agree with you. Anyhow, I sent an email last night and got my reply already. Called me Mr. Man then threatened to kill me. It's on! Time to show the lad how scared I can be until I buy a shotgun. That should even the score up.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:11 pm

One of my characters has also received this. I had her reply in total belief of the threat, and asked him if it was okay if she went outside before 7 p.m. , and if there was a different time for tomorrow?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:18 pm

Ah see I am having a fairly random weekend so I decided to take mine from pure disbelief that someone has paid for me to die to pure bizarreness... we will see where this comes back to...!

Hello What Ever You Call Your Self

I am very sorry for you Xxxxxx, is a pity that this is how your life is going to end as soon as you don't comply. As you can see there is no need of introducing myself to you because I don't have any business with you, my duty as I am mailing you now is just to KILL you and I have to do it as I have already been paid for that.

Someone you call a friend wants you Dead by all means, and the person have spent a lot of money on this, the person also came to us and told me that he wanted you dead and he provided us with your name ,picture and other necessary information's we needed about you. So I sent my boys to track you down and they have carried out the necessary investigation needed for the operation on you, and they have done that but I told them not to kill you that I will like to contact you and see if your life is Important to you or not since their findings shows that you are innocent.

I called my client back and ask him of your email address which I didn't tell him what I wanted to do with it and he gave it to me and I am using it to contact you now. As I am writing to you now my men are monitoring you and they are telling me everything about you.

Now do you want to LIVE OR DIE? As someone has paid us to kill you. Get back to me now if you are ready to pay some fees to spare your life, $15,000 is all you need to spend You will first of all pay $8,000 then I will send a tape to you which i recoeded every discusion i hade with the person who wanted you dead and as soon as you get the tape, you will pay the remaining $10,000. If you are not ready for my help, then I will carry on with my job straight-up.

WARNING: DO NOT THINK OF CONTACTING THE POLICE OR EVEN TELLING ANYONE BECAUSE I WILL KNOW.REMEMBER, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS YOU VERY WELL WANT YOU DEAD! I WILL EXTEND IT TO YOUR FAMILY, INCASE I NOTICE SOMETHING FUNNY.

DO NOT COME OUT ONCE IT IS 7 Razz

M UNTIL I MAKE OUT TIME TO SEE YOU AND GIVE YOU THE TAPE OF MY DISCUSSION WITH THE PERSON WHO WANT YOU DEAD THEN YOU CAN USE IT TO TAKE ANY LEGAL ACTION. GOOD LUCK AS I AWAIT YOUR REPLY

Peter Fyle to xxxxxx

show details Jan 26 (1 day ago)

Reply

I don't understand!

WHO ARE YOU???!?

HELLO YOU BASTARD IS LIKE YOU THINK I AM JOKING WITH YOU IF IN THE NEXT 24HOURS I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY POSITIVE RESPOND FROM YOU CONSIDER YOUR SELF A DEAD MEAT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT THAT WAY AND I WILL DO IT DONT PLAY WITH ME IF YOU DO I WILL PLAY WITH YOUR LIFE TOO

Hi how are you?

Basically let me just explain some things to you:

Curly Wurly is a type of chocolate bar manufactured by Cadbury and sold in the UK and Australia. It was launched in the UK in 1971 and relaunched in 1976. Its shape resembles two flattened, intertwined serpentine strings. The bar is made of chocolate-coated caramel. Also available are "Curly Wurly Squirlies," which come in a bag and are just the cross beams of the ladder. this design was created by Charlie Simmonds as an apprentice at cadburys.

A Canadian version of the Curly Wurly, known as the "Wig Wag" was available in the 1970s.

A 2004 online poll found that the Curly Wurly was the most popular chocolate bar still in production.

In the 1970s the actor and comedian Terry Scott appeared in memorable UK TV commercials for the product dressed as a schoolboy, complete with cap and short trousers.
Curly Wurly bars were banned in Ireland, along with a number of other confectionery brands such as Opal Fruits and Toblerone, until 1979.

Ok - this should have explained and I am a very busy man - if you are going to kill me then I assume you know where I am located and are near? Let's meet up and have a coffee and see if we can't shoot the breeze? How does that seem home-slice?

If I haven't scared this one away I'd be amazed but if I haven't.. well I reckon that will be just fine![/b]

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:24 pm

Update: Insult the scammers ego. Tell him that hes stupid for using gmail as its being tracked and he'll switch easily.

Master Baiter Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 126

A reply here too! Very Happy

He even sent the mail twice (to make up for me waiting!)
I figure that this might even be a multi lad job and the other lad simply didn't bother signing in before?

In his response he seems to use an all capslock script, except for the offscript stuff..which was in non capslock..I hope he keeps this up because it makes it too easy to see how far offscript he is.. Twisted Evil

Let the games begin..

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

Hey I just started a post about this guy too. His email is [email protected]. Anyone is welcome to help. Maybe we could set up a situation where someone can be the person who called him to set up the hit, and you are calling it off. I already paid you so there is no worries. Just an idea.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:26 am

Channingmclaim: welcome to Eater. Read the stickies, and ask for a mentor. If you're interested in baiting this particular scammer, I encourage you to read this whole thread so you can see what we all are doing. Lots of us are baiting him already, so we have to be careful not to mess up other baiters' baits. This guy is a first class piece of shit (read what he responded to me up above) and I would hate to see him twig out because of piling-on.

There is also a thread around here that offers a tutorial on how to effectively bait hit-men...I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: Here it is: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126585

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:12 am

@Gmail hitman responded to my old widow in the nursing home character as well.
Standard "don't joke or I'm a deadman stuff."
On script but coming off script very shortly.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:02 am

Dammett, I'm getting bounces with this guy. Anyone have an more updated address than or should I just keep trying? These hit-mugus are more fun than a car full of drunken prom dates.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 589

just got this

YOU MUST BE A FOOLISH SOMEBODY FOR WRITING ME SUCH EMAIL WHAT DO YOU THAT THERE IS NO WESTERN AROUND YOU HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT MY BOYS ARE WATCHING YOU ALL DO YOU THINK WE ARE PLAYING GAME WITH YOU?

YOU WILL KNOW THAT I AM NOT JOKING BY THE TIME I WILL ASK MY BOYS TO TRACK YOU DOWN SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU SHOULD KINDLY REPLY THIS EMAIL IN A POSITIVE RESPOND. WE HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE THAT YOU ARE TO PAY $8,000 BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE THE RECORDING TAPE BETWEEN MY BOSS AND THE PERSON WHO WANT YOU DEAD SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT IS FOR YOU TO MAKE THE PAYMENT OF $8,000 MY BOSS IN UK (MR BILLY FROST) VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND AS WELL YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT BEFORE WE CAN SEND A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOU TO KNOW THE PERSON THAT WANT YOU DEAD SO YOU NEED TO BE FAST ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE TIME TO WASTE IF YOU DISOBEY I AM SORRY TO SAY YOU ARE A DEAD MEAT DONT PLAY WITH ME AND IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THIS MONEY NOW YOU DONT HAVE TO WASTE ANYTIME JUST GO TO WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER AND MAKE THIS PAYMENT AND AS WELL SEND THE INFORMATION TO MY BOSS IN UK WITH THE FOLLWOING PAYMENT INFORMATION.

SENDER NAME:
RECEIVER NAME: B1L4Y FR0ST
MTCN NUMBER:
AMOUNT SENT:
SCAN COPY OF THE PAYMENT SLIP

my reply

I was outside today and i thought i saw one of your boys so i got my shotgun and killed him but it was only the mailman thankfully nobody saw me kill him so i dumped his body in a nearby lake please sir give me more time to get you the 8000

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 593

Quote:

HELLO THIS WILL BE THE LAST MAIL I WILL SEND TO YOU AND IF YOU REFUSE TO COMPLY I AM SORRY TO SAY I HAVE NO OPTION THAN TO ASK MY BOYS TO TRACK YOU DOWN WHAT MORE TIME DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU DO YOU THINK I HAVE TIME TO WASTE WITH YOU IF I AM WELL PAYED I CAN KILL MY OWN MOTHER SO KILLING YOU WILL BE AS EASY AS I KOWN I HAVE BEEN AN ASSASINE FOR A LONG TIME SO DONT THINK I AM TRYING TO PLAY SOME GAMES WITH YOU SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU JUST GO AND MAKE THE SAID PAYMENT OF THE AMOUNT YOU KNOW YOU CAN AFFORD NOW BECAUSE IF I DONT RECEIVE ANY PAYMENT FROM YOU WITH THE NEXT 48HOURS I WILL SEND YOU TO HELL..
BE WARNED.

BELOW ARE THE PAYMENT INFORMATION I AM SENDING IT TO YOU FOR THE SECOND TIME.

SENDER NAME:
RECEIVER NAME: B1LLY FR05T
MTCN NUMBER:
AMOUNT SENT:
SCAN COPY OF THE PAYMENT SLIP

THIS ARE MY BOSS EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER
Email:[email protected]
Phone +44xxxxxxxx

He's willing to kill his own mother?! can't wait to get in contact with his boss Laughing

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